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Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

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PruthePrune · 29/06/2025 09:24

Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

I can understand her being upset that her shows have been axed, apparently ratings were falling, However, I find it hugely disappointing that she has brought race/religion into it. No one is entitled to a BBC show and I think she has had a bloody good run. AIBU?

Nadiya Hussain says she ‘won’t be grateful’ following BBC cooking show axe

Nadiya Hussain has spoken out following the cancellation of her BBC cooking show, delivering a powerful response to critics who told her to be “grateful”. The Great British Bake Off winner has enjoyed a 10-year relationship with the broadcaster followi...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/bake-off-nadiya-hussain-cooking-show-axe-b2778744.html

OP posts:
Coffeeishot · 29/06/2025 10:58

Figcherry · 29/06/2025 10:51

Imo Nadiya won a baking competition but was only ever an amateur.
When she made that cake for the Queen it was embarrassing how bad it was.
I never watched any of her cookery programmes after seeing that.
I’m pleased she has had some success and no she doesn’t have to be grateful but I don’t think she would have been given her own programmes without her Bake Off fame.

Madhur Jaffrey on the other hand, was a trail blazer.

I don't think she was "given" her success because of bake off it probably boosted her into the spotlight but people are allowed to use these sorts of programmes as a springboard, I mean competing in great brittish menu did Tom Ketterridge no harm! Yes he is a trained chef but it boosted his media career.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 10:58

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/06/2025 10:55

It wasn't a joke. He was on UK TV regularly, had various restaurants/businesses (which probably made a hell of a lot more money for a professional chef than TV work), published 20 or so books between 1994 and 2008 and was still appearing on TV worldwide until he died.

So that'll be why the PP doesn't see him on TV anymore, not anything about a change in fashion meaning that Nadiya Hussain needs to get over herself.

No. It’s because tv moves on and they had lots of other, more modern and relevant, chefs to step into the role.

ExercicenformedeZ · 29/06/2025 11:00

Elleherd · 29/06/2025 10:57

@ExercicenformedeZ
While I agree the pp's claims about 'the narrative' are off and shit stirring, actually poor white people are frequently told to be grateful for what they have.
It is the whole point about having hierarchical layers of class and rights.
You can't punch down if you haven't designated others as below you and lesser than you.

But of course, the difference is if you are white and not visibly disabled, then if needs be, there are ways to pass as not poor. It is also, fate, and luck willing, something you may be able to change.

I know little about Nadiya but am not aware that she was previously poor, so it sounds like the fact that comparison's even comes up, rather speaks for itself.

For those who cannot see; If you aren't white, or/and are visibly disabled, absolutely everything you achieve your entire life, will be affected by being seen through a lens of something you have no choice in, and no way of changing, even if you wanted to, and are expected to be inspiration porn one minute and 'know your place' the next.

I think that you and I agree. My point was that while whiteness doesn't completely shield anyone from poverty, the narrative about 'gratitude' doesn't come into play because poor white people are white. It is their poverty that attracts that attitude, not their whiteness.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/06/2025 11:00

Piggywaspushed · 29/06/2025 10:30

So, it's worth having a think about why they have dropped Nadiya and have never dropped Mary.

Mary was off the TV for decades - she was dropped and then revived

It happens

PhilippaGeorgiou · 29/06/2025 11:02

I have never seen any of her shows. I know who she is and that is about all. And I disagree - she didn't bring race into this. She didn't say she was entitled to a show. She said that she was entitled to feel what she feels and that it was racist and inappropriate for people to tell her that she should be grateful. Be clear, the BBC gave her shows in it's own interests, and stopped employing her when it was no longer in their interests - just like any employer. If there is a single person on this thread that has felt grateful that their employer got rid of them, please do let us all know.

She is right to call people out. I am fed up to the back teeth of privileged people telling others that they should be grateful... grateful for what they get because they were poor, from an immigrant family, disabled, etc., etc.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 29/06/2025 11:02

Alltheprettyseahorses · 29/06/2025 10:15

She can be as disappointed as she wants - privately. Publicly she should be professional and gracious if she wants to carry on with a media career. That's not racism in the slightest, that's how it is for everyone. I found her whinging very tedious.

I really like Nadiya but I kind of agree with this. Also not clear on how she's been treated unfairly - by the BBC or by people commenting she should be grateful? Because I agree with her that comments like that are patronising and probably come from a place of thinking it's so magnanimous to give a brown Muslim woman a TV show in the first place. In other words, racism.

But she won't have helped her career by addressing it in this way unfortunately. Media is brutal and she did have a good run; people react badly to anything perceived as sour grapes, and unfortunately anything 'bringing race into it' massively triggers a lot of people who don't want to confront those issues. So it won't be good news for her brand; pretty unfair, but that's how it is. I think being publicly gracious and professional is the best course of action any celebrity, but it's just a fact that the backlash against her will be worse because of her race and religion. I hope she finds something else though, because she's lovely.

askmenow · 29/06/2025 11:05

GooseOnMyGrave · 29/06/2025 09:43

Perhaps, but it’s not the same thing. At all.

Its never the same thing is it..... if your excuse is skin colour!

Always putting it down the racial aspect is lazy. Her management comapny should have been more on the ball.

Every TV presenter has a time limited shelf life and you have to be fleet of foot to stay relevant....(like Jeremy Clarkson)

She's just soooo over.
Just bloody face facts, ALL channels need ratings even the licence funded BBC.
And all good things end!

Hopefully she will have invested wisely and can put her talents to use elsewhere instead of being bitter and playing the race card.

And this is from an ex BBC employee. Saying the BBC doesn't chase ratings is lying!
And the BBC has being practicing positive discrimination for many years. You'll find minority ethnicities are disproportionately represented per capita of the population.

But if the numbers dont work there's no excuse for keeping a programme running.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 29/06/2025 11:05

People’s shows are axed all the time, regardless of their ethnicity. A straight British-born white man should also be able to reflect and appreciate that they were fortunate to have a ten year career at the bbc, and “you should be grateful” comments would be applicable to that man moaning, too. Most tv careers don’t last forever as broadcasters choose to freshen up the schedule.

crumblingschools · 29/06/2025 11:05

Wouldn't many people say a white winner of Bake off should be grateful if they had earned millions of pounds purely because they were a winner of that show. She was an amateur baker, just cooking for family. I would be grateful if I got that break In that respect race wouldn't come into it.

I bet Jamie Oliver is grateful for the break he got after the success of the first series of The Naked Chef

Cowboysnangels · 29/06/2025 11:07

i'm not sure why race comes into this. There are dozens of tv chefs of all races who no longer make cooking programmes. The long careers that Jamie Oliver and Nigella Lawson have had are rare. Even Mary Berry had a long time away from tv until Bake Off revived things. But ultimately it's all about ratings and selling programmes overseas.

EleanorReally · 29/06/2025 11:09

having now watched the video i think she makes a fair point
gratitude is ingrained in her - and she is Allowed to want more
it is a personal video

EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 11:09

Dweetfidilove · 29/06/2025 10:50

Welcome to this side of MN.

Some posters make a sport of intentionally 'missing the point'.

That she thinks she was treated unfairly is part of what’s she’s saying though.

inamarina · 29/06/2025 11:09

PhilippaGeorgiou · 29/06/2025 11:02

I have never seen any of her shows. I know who she is and that is about all. And I disagree - she didn't bring race into this. She didn't say she was entitled to a show. She said that she was entitled to feel what she feels and that it was racist and inappropriate for people to tell her that she should be grateful. Be clear, the BBC gave her shows in it's own interests, and stopped employing her when it was no longer in their interests - just like any employer. If there is a single person on this thread that has felt grateful that their employer got rid of them, please do let us all know.

She is right to call people out. I am fed up to the back teeth of privileged people telling others that they should be grateful... grateful for what they get because they were poor, from an immigrant family, disabled, etc., etc.

If there is a single person on this thread that has felt grateful that their employer got rid of them, please do let us all know.

It‘s not quite comparable though. Usually, simply being employed somewhere doesn’t give you the visibility and the opportunity to build your brand like a BBC show does.

EleanorReally · 29/06/2025 11:10

no she is reacting to the use of the phrase, you should be grateful, it touches a nerve in her.

EleanorReally · 29/06/2025 11:10

so, on balance, op you are being unreasonable.

crumpet · 29/06/2025 11:13

How many bake off winners have had a 10 year tv career?

EleanorReally · 29/06/2025 11:14

crumpet · 29/06/2025 11:13

How many bake off winners have had a 10 year tv career?

should she be grateful or should she want more?

Escapetothecatshome · 29/06/2025 11:14

I really like her, but all her receipes were full of sugar or salt. Now I have a sweet tooth as much as the next person, but it was just ridiculous. Most of the receipes I couldn’t imagine anyone making, not when we’re all trying to be healthier.

SuperNovajovic · 29/06/2025 11:16

HappyNewTaxYear · 29/06/2025 09:45

Equality means being subject to the same pressures as everyone else - in this case, being let go by the BBC because the ratings weren’t enough any more. It’s always about money in the media.

She HAS had a good run in her corner of the media world, which is constantly on the lookout for something new. In her case, the TV bosses at the time pounced upon a smiley, pleasant-looking brown woman with her head covered because it would have gone some way towards countering the criticism that all we see on our screens is people from the same part of society. So in that sense race/religion is an element here, but one which has worked in her favour.

She and her agent have been pretty smart with the rest of the media too. She’s had a lot of attention in magazines and features pages. Lots of stuff about her anxiety, not just her cooking.

She’s only going the way of scores of other TV cooks… that is, off to the satellite channels.

so she experiences this as a woman as well as from a race angle. this is intersectionality and what allows us to consider these things with nuance.

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 11:16

Why was it "an embarrassment of a cake", @PiggyPigalle ? The late Queen seemed to like it?

Coffeeishot · 29/06/2025 11:18

Escapetothecatshome · 29/06/2025 11:14

I really like her, but all her receipes were full of sugar or salt. Now I have a sweet tooth as much as the next person, but it was just ridiculous. Most of the receipes I couldn’t imagine anyone making, not when we’re all trying to be healthier.

I don't think there is anywhere that says cake is healthy!

crumpet · 29/06/2025 11:20

EleanorReally · 29/06/2025 11:14

should she be grateful or should she want more?

Surely both can be fine at the same time? Grateful for the opportunities she has had, and still want to continue to do more?

wanting more doesn’t mean that being grateful is not possible

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 11:20

Coffeeishot · 29/06/2025 11:18

I don't think there is anywhere that says cake is healthy!

Edited

Yes, I don't think Nadiya has claimed that her cakes should constitute a main part of a diet!

gunners59 · 29/06/2025 11:20

sounds like a spoiltbrat done well out of her programmes get over it😂😂😂😂