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Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

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PruthePrune · 29/06/2025 09:24

Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

I can understand her being upset that her shows have been axed, apparently ratings were falling, However, I find it hugely disappointing that she has brought race/religion into it. No one is entitled to a BBC show and I think she has had a bloody good run. AIBU?

Nadiya Hussain says she ‘won’t be grateful’ following BBC cooking show axe

Nadiya Hussain has spoken out following the cancellation of her BBC cooking show, delivering a powerful response to critics who told her to be “grateful”. The Great British Bake Off winner has enjoyed a 10-year relationship with the broadcaster followi...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/bake-off-nadiya-hussain-cooking-show-axe-b2778744.html

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Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:28

LolaLemons · 29/06/2025 16:59

Little bigots? Everyone has just pointed out that shows get cancelled, it's nothing personal and yes be grateful for 10yrs on tv.

It's incredibly predictable that you and others have concluded this particular part as being the issue thus glossing over all other context, instead of actually listening to Nadiyah's experiences, and her actual point. But it's cool, we see you.

Judiezones · 29/06/2025 17:29

She needs a better manager.

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 17:30

Yeah I understand. As someone from another country working in the UK, I've been constantly told I have to be "grateful" to the UK for apparently taking me in and clothing and feeding me 🙄 when really if I were French or something I'd be considered an expat.

I don't want to be British, I just came here to study (just as a Brit would at an Ivy League, without the expectation they should be "grateful" to America) and work (again, just as a Brit Magic Circle employee would plumb for BigLaw in the US) and earn money, thanks. I beat out other Brits on my own merit so nope no gratitude there. It must be worse for Nadiya though because unlike me she wants acceptance and inclusion as a fellow Brit here.

Weepixie · 29/06/2025 17:31

I didn't think she was responding to the bbc, but to poster's who were telling her she should be grateful for the bbc taking her own and giving her work when her contract with them hadn't been renewed

You’d be as well banging your head against a brick wall than try to get some of the posters on this thread to understand the above.

Katypp · 29/06/2025 17:32

Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:28

It's incredibly predictable that you and others have concluded this particular part as being the issue thus glossing over all other context, instead of actually listening to Nadiyah's experiences, and her actual point. But it's cool, we see you.

But posters are basing their indignation about racism on absolutely nothing, just their feelings, which to be honest, look pretty skewed to me.
And being very rude and patronising on the process.
Having a different opinion does nit make me stupid.

Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:33

Seoulgal · 29/06/2025 17:15

Shocked and slightly amused at the poor reasoning here. Alright one more time now for the slow ones 🤡

Of course you need to use a like for like example!! That’s a basic part of proving your point.

For example if a very well known Black female celeb was singled out among a bunch of celebs and turned away from a celebrity club while her white peers were let in it’s pretty obvious that aside from some exceptional circumstances the likely explanation is racism. So then if a non-famous white person doesn't get in the same club and goes “see that shows it’s not racism against the black celebrity” 🤦🏽‍♀️ See how daft it sounds?

To even start to show it’s not racism, you would need to be comparing this Black female celebs treatment by club management, with that of fellow white celebs of a similar profile/status.

To be comparing an “ordinary Jane” to a celebrity in this context is ludicrous-
and the fact that so many are is probably indicative of their own prejudice.

It’s not about saying the celeb is superior but just acknowledging that it’s a different situation, in the club example I used the likely reason for the non-famous white person being barred from the club was they were not famous and this hypothetical club is for A-listers.

But the (hypothetical) black female was a celeb, so why wasn’t she admitted to the club with all her white famous mates?

Hmm…wonder why - Is it clicking now?!

I can’t work out if people are being deliberately obtuse here because this shouldn’t need to be explained over and over again.

I haven’t even looked into the Nadiyah thing beyond this thread and one article tbh so I don’t know too much of what’s been said to her, but white Jenny down the road being told to be grateful for her benefits or social housing doesn’t automatically disprove that ethnic minorities - at all levels- are told this specifically due to racism.

This thread started off well but looking at the last couple of pages it’s attracted a certain sort that can’t be reasoned with. Good luck to those bravely trying to explain basics to them - I’m out ✌🏽

Edited

So tiring isn't it?! I've long since left trying to educate the ignorance but let's be honest it's willful at this point.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 17:36

Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:33

So tiring isn't it?! I've long since left trying to educate the ignorance but let's be honest it's willful at this point.

You must be absolutely exhausted by your superiority. Have a lie down, dear.

Katypp · 29/06/2025 17:38

Oh I do apologise for not falling in line with your attempts to educate me
Please stand down and don't worry about me.

Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:41

Incorrect. They've listened to her in full and properly and understand what she's saying as they've likely experienced the same. But I'm not about to get deep into this now there's no point. Have a great rest of your weekend and don't forget sunscreen it's hot out here.

Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:41

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 17:36

You must be absolutely exhausted by your superiority. Have a lie down, dear.

The irony.

IcedPurple · 29/06/2025 17:42

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 17:30

Yeah I understand. As someone from another country working in the UK, I've been constantly told I have to be "grateful" to the UK for apparently taking me in and clothing and feeding me 🙄 when really if I were French or something I'd be considered an expat.

I don't want to be British, I just came here to study (just as a Brit would at an Ivy League, without the expectation they should be "grateful" to America) and work (again, just as a Brit Magic Circle employee would plumb for BigLaw in the US) and earn money, thanks. I beat out other Brits on my own merit so nope no gratitude there. It must be worse for Nadiya though because unlike me she wants acceptance and inclusion as a fellow Brit here.

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I don't want to be British, I just came here to study (just as a Brit would at an Ivy League, without the expectation they should be "grateful" to America

Not grateful to America, but grateful for the circumstances which allowed them to study at an elite university, a privilege which is not granted to many who might be just as gifted.

Similarly, many very talented chefs do not get their own BBC show for a decade. So that too is something to be grateful for.

Gratitude does not mean denying your own talent or hard work, nor does it imply any sort of subservience.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 17:42

Akuna · 29/06/2025 17:41

The irony.

Do you know what that means?

Lavendersong · 29/06/2025 17:44

I can’t stand her anymore she’s so annoying and has been for years. I loved her at the start after GBBO but each time she comes on TV my heart sinks and I switch over or forward.

She should be grateful she’s been on TV for so long

and who knows they probably kept her on for longer than necessary due to her religion.

Her dishes aren’t great and that dreadfully embarrassing cake she cooked for the Queen. Cringe.

Extravirginolive · 29/06/2025 17:45

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 17:30

Yeah I understand. As someone from another country working in the UK, I've been constantly told I have to be "grateful" to the UK for apparently taking me in and clothing and feeding me 🙄 when really if I were French or something I'd be considered an expat.

I don't want to be British, I just came here to study (just as a Brit would at an Ivy League, without the expectation they should be "grateful" to America) and work (again, just as a Brit Magic Circle employee would plumb for BigLaw in the US) and earn money, thanks. I beat out other Brits on my own merit so nope no gratitude there. It must be worse for Nadiya though because unlike me she wants acceptance and inclusion as a fellow Brit here.

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Seriously though, there's no such thing as a "Brit" other than a word on a passport.

People whose family history goes back thousands of years on this land have exactly the same status as a "Brit" as millions of people from a huge number of countries around the world who acquired the "Brit" passport in the last few decades.

So what exactly does she want to be accepted as?

The millions of people that came here to acquire "Brit" passport status have created a "Brit" thing that exists entirely separate from this land.

It's only a concept now.

"Brit" has no actual meaning at all. So she wants acceptance as a "Brit"?

By whom exactly? You have a lot of nationalities to ask that question of.

Because of the numbers arriving here is she actually asking for acceptance from any particular cohort?
She should equally be asking for acceptance from the millions of nationalities with "Brit" passports.

"Brit" isn't a white people thing. The people that arrived have made "Brit" mean absolutely anyone from anywhere.

Lavendersong · 29/06/2025 17:51

Anyone would be grateful to have their own show on TV for 10 years

that’s a bloody long time

I don’t know why she’s bringing race and religion into it

I can’t see what that has to do with it at all

She’s become annoying and her dishes are really not that great.

SmugglersHaunt · 29/06/2025 17:58

My god what a sense of entitlement! So is she supposed to be gifted endless TV series, because of what?! If the ratings weren’t good then it will be cancelled. It’s not difficult to understand. She’s had ten good years of the back of a reality TV show which is way more than pretty much everyone else. Sadly her tantrum won’t exactly endear her to production companies or channels

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 18:00

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 17:30

Yeah I understand. As someone from another country working in the UK, I've been constantly told I have to be "grateful" to the UK for apparently taking me in and clothing and feeding me 🙄 when really if I were French or something I'd be considered an expat.

I don't want to be British, I just came here to study (just as a Brit would at an Ivy League, without the expectation they should be "grateful" to America) and work (again, just as a Brit Magic Circle employee would plumb for BigLaw in the US) and earn money, thanks. I beat out other Brits on my own merit so nope no gratitude there. It must be worse for Nadiya though because unlike me she wants acceptance and inclusion as a fellow Brit here.

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I went to uni in the USA from the UK. I was super grateful for it. Had a great time. I was really lucky. Why wouldn’t you be grateful to get that amazing opportunity to study in another country? I think there is a lot of entitlement on this thread. I think people should be super grateful for any opportunities they get. Many people don’t get them at all.

MetalliCat89 · 29/06/2025 18:04

Good for her. She spoke eloquently about her experience without being rude or contemptuous. She just spoke about how she felt, I think.

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 18:06

@Extravirginolive Sorry I genuinely can't make sense of anything you've said. I certainly don't think she's anything other than British, but her own valid point is that lots of people don't feel the same, even if it's deep deep down. Lots of people have internalised racism — even subtly, ie look all inclusive and lovely at first, but they get offended and start demanding "gratitude" if a non white person is deemed to not have the appropriate attitude about this country.

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 18:07

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 18:06

@Extravirginolive Sorry I genuinely can't make sense of anything you've said. I certainly don't think she's anything other than British, but her own valid point is that lots of people don't feel the same, even if it's deep deep down. Lots of people have internalised racism — even subtly, ie look all inclusive and lovely at first, but they get offended and start demanding "gratitude" if a non white person is deemed to not have the appropriate attitude about this country.

But isn’t the point that people are saying she should be grateful not because of her ethnicity but simply because she has an amazing opportunity that people would give their right arm for.

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 18:11

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 18:00

I went to uni in the USA from the UK. I was super grateful for it. Had a great time. I was really lucky. Why wouldn’t you be grateful to get that amazing opportunity to study in another country? I think there is a lot of entitlement on this thread. I think people should be super grateful for any opportunities they get. Many people don’t get them at all.

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Knew there would be one. I absolutely was expecting this when I posted 🙄

You know very well that a general sense of gratitude for interest opportunities is not the same as the sort of gratitude demanded of refugees, immigrants (the immigrant vs expat terminology is interestingly arbitrary).

You know very well that how you were perceived as a Brit on a USA jaunt was different from how an Mexican or Indian or even 4th generation Black or Asian American person in the US would be perceived. Not just by overtly racist people but very nice people whose beliefs deep deep down are revealed when push comes to shove.

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 29/06/2025 18:11

Katypp · 29/06/2025 16:51

Or alternatively, it does be cause you say so (with nothing tangible to prove it). Got it 👌

The chosen diction is what proves it. This is the first thread I’ve ever commented on. Why? Because I studied the subject of discourse and race at postgraduate level and it grinds my gears when people with no knowledge of the subject and who haven’t grown up being routinely subjected to racist behaviour/language/experiences like to huff and puff and tell those of us who have, that we’re getting worked up over nothing. Tell me you’re white without telling me you’re white.

SmugglersHaunt · 29/06/2025 18:11

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 18:07

But isn’t the point that people are saying she should be grateful not because of her ethnicity but simply because she has an amazing opportunity that people would give their right arm for.

Exactly! Who else gets 10 years of their own TV show? 🤷🏼‍♀️ Some people on here are desperate to flagellate themselves and others at the altar of perceived racism

Extravirginolive · 29/06/2025 18:12

AI overview
It's difficult to pinpoint the exact number of nationalities living in the UK, as "nationality" can refer to citizenship or a sense of national identity. However, the 2021 Census for England and Wales showed that over 9.7% of the population identified with a non-UK national identity, which equates to roughly 5.8 million people. Additionally, around 2.0% of the population identified with both a UK and a non-UK national identity.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Non-UK National Identity:
In 2021, over 5.8 million people in England and Wales identified with a non-UK national identity, according to the census.
Common Non-UK Nationalities:
The most common non-UK national identities reported were Polish (0.9 million), Romanian (0.5 million), Indian (0.4 million), and Irish (0.3 million).
Multiple Nationalities:
British nationality law allows for dual citizenship, meaning many individuals may hold both British and another nationality.
Foreign-born Population:
In 2021, around 16% of the UK population (approximately 10.7 million people) were born abroad.
Ethnic Groups:
The UK census also collects data on ethnic groups, with a wide range of categories used to capture the diversity of the population.
Therefore, while the exact number of nationalities is hard to define, it's clear that the UK is a very diverse nation with a large population of people from various backgrounds and with a wide range of national identities.

I wonder how unpleasant its going to become here as this change continues when all the grievances continue to multiply.

It's quite a scary thought.

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 18:13

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 18:11

Knew there would be one. I absolutely was expecting this when I posted 🙄

You know very well that a general sense of gratitude for interest opportunities is not the same as the sort of gratitude demanded of refugees, immigrants (the immigrant vs expat terminology is interestingly arbitrary).

You know very well that how you were perceived as a Brit on a USA jaunt was different from how an Mexican or Indian or even 4th generation Black or Asian American person in the US would be perceived. Not just by overtly racist people but very nice people whose beliefs deep deep down are revealed when push comes to shove.

Buy why shouldn’t a country expect a sense of gratitude when it has opened it arms out to you and given you a safe haven? I think this is part of the issue- people are going to split on this. You are always going to take the view that no gratitude is going to be expected and other people are going to take the view that people should be thankful.

i am a 3rd generation descendant of immigrants myself btw. And I am eternally grateful for the fact that the Uk gave my ancestors safe haven. I wouldn’t have been born otherwise

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