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To not provide DSS with a room

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Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 22:30

Currently living in rented accommodation with partner, our baby, my daughter from ex marriage and his son from his ex marriage. Both step children are 50/50 with their other parents. We currently live in a large house with lots of space and a bedroom for everyone. But the cost of this rent and associated bills is astronomical and we need to either buy our own 4 bed house or rent somewhere cheaper.

My partner earns double what I earn and works long hours. I have a less demanding job and so do most of the housework and childcare for our baby. This might sound ok- apart from the fact that we pay half each of the rent and bills for our current home. So I really feel like he’s onto a pretty good deal. I used to do childcare and school runs for DSS too and recently stopped….but that is another story.

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area. It’s been rented out but the tenants have given notice to leave in August.

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money. He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

Ive decided that I don’t want to move to another cheaper rented property, they’re rarely decorated nicely, don’t feel like home to me and I’d probably have to live in a less nice area to get the size we’d want for a cheaper price. So I’ve decided to move back into my 3 bed semi, spruce it up a little bit and eventually sell it- I’m estimating this might take 12 months or so. My daughter loves this house, it’s near school, friends and her dad. She’s looking forward to going back to her old room. When I initially told my partner that I thought this was the best idea, I discussed it with a view to us all moving there together- it would be cramped and not ideal- but it’s a home and only a stepping stone to us buying somewhere bigger. I suggested we put our 1yo baby in with us and decorate the 3rd bedroom for his son. He didn’t like this idea, said I wouldn’t put my daughter in the small room so why should he put his son. He said he’d rent a house so that his son could have more room and when his son was at his mums he would stay with me and our baby.
He suggested that his son and our baby could have the second double room and my daughter have the small room. This might be where I’m being selfish as I won’t compromise on my daughter- the room was hers to begin with, I don’t want her impacted by my choice to blend a family. She was happy to move in with partner and son btw and they all get on well so there’s no issues there. But I also selfishly don’t see why I should impact my daughter for someone else’s child.

We left it like this until this week where he’s realised the move is imminent and he’s now decided he wants to move to the three bed house with me. He said he doesn’t want to live apart from me and our baby- and I don’t want to live apart either. However, I’ve now planned to have a bedroom for each of my children. I going back to work this week, our 1yo is starting nursery, he’s a light sleeper and for the sake of both of us I think he needs his own room for a good nights sleep instead of us waking each other up in a shared room.

my partner has now decided he’ll convert the integral garage for his son so that he’ll have plenty of space. I initially said this would be ok but I’m now feeling uneasy about this too. He’s planning on doing this renovation himself. I didn’t think much damage could be done until he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room. I have two issues with this:

1- friend has done work for me before and it’s shoddy. I worry what the finish of this DIY project will be.

2- the garage door was only put in a couple of years ago, it was expensive, it’s remote electric and matches the front door. The garage was newly rendered and it all looks smart from the road.

AIBU to say no to this project? It feels selfish and I’m basically saying I won’t allow a room to be made for DSS. Creating the room allows us to stay together and still have DSS over to stay. Surely lots of people would do anything to keep the whole family together.

i feel selfish, but also a bit angry that everything has fallen to me- childcare, bills, providing a home. Now I’m potentially damaging my home, my only asset, so that I can house his son.

I realise the phrase ‘his son’ sounds horrid from a step mum and it’s not a reflection of how I am at home. I care for him, treat him the same as my daughter and son. But in reality he has a mother and father- and it feels like his father’s job to ensure he has a house big enough for his family.

OP posts:
MascaraGirl · 29/06/2025 20:38

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 20:34

OP offered the third bedroom in her house. His father said no.

The DP would only do this if his son got the biggest bedroom. Otherwise he said he would move out, and continue the relationship whilst living separately

itsgettingweird · 29/06/2025 20:39

I was at - dont do it - when I got to the fact you each pay exactly half for the house but earn differently and you facilitate his working by looking after all 3 children.

do not do it until you have a better financial agreement in place at least as a first point of call and do not sell your home to buy one for all your family - again not least until you get legal advice about protecting your input.

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 20:52

Orangeandpurpletulips · 29/06/2025 19:59

So do I, and I also thought this sounded familiar.

I haven’t posted about this before or anything to do with DP or DSS

The school run and childcare I was providing is a whole other cheeky fucker story from his and his ExW and it would. I’d love to tell it but it’d take ages!

OP posts:
Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 21:07

GabriellaMontez · 29/06/2025 20:02

This is my prediction.

He'll decide to live with you after all. His son will accept the smaller room.

He'll be indignant that you expect him to make a financial contribution.

He'll be outraged to hear that you expect him to increase his percentage contribution. He'll call you a gold digger. The irony.

My suggestion. Get ready to say you'll live separately until he can demonstrate his financial commitment with a deposit.

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

he references the fact my exH is wealthy and whilst I was with him, my daughter and I led a very comfortable lifestyle and he knows I never had to worry about money. I just earned my bit, added it to the pot and looked after our daughter- old fashioned maybe but it worked for us and neither felt hard done by.

so because I’m used to having money, when I bring up our finances he makes me feel like I’m being money grabbing. He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

DP also knows that if I separated from him and went back to live on my own, my exH would up my spousal maintenance so that daughter and I could live comfortably, he wouldn’t even be bothered that it was benefitting my new child. ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.
DP always comments that ‘it’s ok for you because ExH will just come to the rescue’

so he hasn’t said the words yet, but I definitely feel like he’s bordering on calling me a gold digger

OP posts:
Tiswa · 29/06/2025 21:09

@Moorside111 he is deflecting because if he makes you pay 50/50 and yet you do more than 50% of everything else how can you be

why are you with him?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 21:12

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 21:07

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

he references the fact my exH is wealthy and whilst I was with him, my daughter and I led a very comfortable lifestyle and he knows I never had to worry about money. I just earned my bit, added it to the pot and looked after our daughter- old fashioned maybe but it worked for us and neither felt hard done by.

so because I’m used to having money, when I bring up our finances he makes me feel like I’m being money grabbing. He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

DP also knows that if I separated from him and went back to live on my own, my exH would up my spousal maintenance so that daughter and I could live comfortably, he wouldn’t even be bothered that it was benefitting my new child. ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.
DP always comments that ‘it’s ok for you because ExH will just come to the rescue’

so he hasn’t said the words yet, but I definitely feel like he’s bordering on calling me a gold digger

But he wants to live in your house for free AND for his son not to have the smallest bedroom AND for you to do all this unpaid household labour and unpaid childcare for both of his children (including the one who isn't yours) AND he didn't even financially support you when you were on maternity leave.

You're not a gold digger. He's a cocklodger.

You'd be far better off without him.

Why are you letting him get away with this?

HopscotchBanana · 29/06/2025 21:13

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 21:07

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

he references the fact my exH is wealthy and whilst I was with him, my daughter and I led a very comfortable lifestyle and he knows I never had to worry about money. I just earned my bit, added it to the pot and looked after our daughter- old fashioned maybe but it worked for us and neither felt hard done by.

so because I’m used to having money, when I bring up our finances he makes me feel like I’m being money grabbing. He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

DP also knows that if I separated from him and went back to live on my own, my exH would up my spousal maintenance so that daughter and I could live comfortably, he wouldn’t even be bothered that it was benefitting my new child. ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.
DP always comments that ‘it’s ok for you because ExH will just come to the rescue’

so he hasn’t said the words yet, but I definitely feel like he’s bordering on calling me a gold digger

Ohhhh.

He's got penis envy of your ex as well. So he has to belittle that relationship because he knows he's never going to provide like your ex could and still does.

So he's never going to be "a mug" like your ex, funding "grabby" you like a fool. That's the best he can come up with I guess, to deflect how jealous he is of ex's finances.

Are you cottoning on to what a piece of work you've been suckered in by yet?

itsgettingweird · 29/06/2025 21:14

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 21:07

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

he references the fact my exH is wealthy and whilst I was with him, my daughter and I led a very comfortable lifestyle and he knows I never had to worry about money. I just earned my bit, added it to the pot and looked after our daughter- old fashioned maybe but it worked for us and neither felt hard done by.

so because I’m used to having money, when I bring up our finances he makes me feel like I’m being money grabbing. He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

DP also knows that if I separated from him and went back to live on my own, my exH would up my spousal maintenance so that daughter and I could live comfortably, he wouldn’t even be bothered that it was benefitting my new child. ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.
DP always comments that ‘it’s ok for you because ExH will just come to the rescue’

so he hasn’t said the words yet, but I definitely feel like he’s bordering on calling me a gold digger

How did you end up splitting from your ex who sounds decent and end up with this loser and a child with him?

GabriellaMontez · 29/06/2025 21:22

I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. But the more you say, the more I shudder.

ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.

Have you led ex to believe your DP supports you? Why? Some kind of false loyalty? Does anyone (mum, sister, friends??) Know the truth?

All about money?? Says the man who used all his for a new car... just wondering if you've treated yourself to a new car too?

How much was his car?

Shinyandnew1 · 29/06/2025 21:24

He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

But you're the one with a house and he's the one with fuck all?!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 21:28

What gets me is that this guy is a clear downgrade from the OP's ex and yet it doesn't look like she will tell him to sling his hook.

GabriellaMontez · 29/06/2025 21:30

Shinyandnew1 · 29/06/2025 21:24

He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

But you're the one with a house and he's the one with fuck all?!

Quite! Chance would be a fine thing!

saraclara · 29/06/2025 21:32

ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.

I wouldn't blame him. If one of my daughters had to use her savings for her maternity leave, when in an established relationship with the baby's father, I'd be really upset and angry.

Mazanna123 · 29/06/2025 21:35

Can you do a basic loft conversion? As it board it, electrics and good ladder access?

treesandsun · 29/06/2025 21:37

OrangeAndPistachio · 28/06/2025 22:44

So he tried to blackmail you into giving his son the bigger room (for his 50/50 stay) then backtracked when you didn't cave?

Is he a good man op?

I agree he thought you would back down. I don't want to sound harsh because I don't know him obviously but I wonder how much he doesn't want to live apart from you as opposed to not wanting to play 100 percent of the Bills himself when he's on to a good deal where somebody who earns considerably less than him pays half.

I also would not be having somebody who's done a shoddy job previously doing more work. I would also worry that him arranging the work to be done will give him some sort of claim on your house in the future. If yu d go ahead with getting any work done I would arrange for it to be done and pay for it yourself . for now I would say you intend to keep things how you planned and he has had time to discuss the changes with you before the last minute and for now and the next 6 months you're going ahead with your initial plan for you and your two children to live together and he can visit at the weekend.

JustASmallBear · 29/06/2025 21:40

ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.

More than he actually does????????

But OP, this man doesn't support you at all in any way!

You are supporting him with all the money and time you're contributing!

Why on earth can't you see this?

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 29/06/2025 21:48

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 21:07

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

he references the fact my exH is wealthy and whilst I was with him, my daughter and I led a very comfortable lifestyle and he knows I never had to worry about money. I just earned my bit, added it to the pot and looked after our daughter- old fashioned maybe but it worked for us and neither felt hard done by.

so because I’m used to having money, when I bring up our finances he makes me feel like I’m being money grabbing. He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

DP also knows that if I separated from him and went back to live on my own, my exH would up my spousal maintenance so that daughter and I could live comfortably, he wouldn’t even be bothered that it was benefitting my new child. ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.
DP always comments that ‘it’s ok for you because ExH will just come to the rescue’

so he hasn’t said the words yet, but I definitely feel like he’s bordering on calling me a gold digger

May I ask why you divorced your ex husband who sounds like a great guy to be with your current partner? He sounds like the opposite! If your ex would increase your maintenance if you left your partner, it sounds like you’d be a great deal better of splitting with him and living with your kids in your own home. Less bills, more income, no cocklodger and his son to house. The fact he let you spend your savings on maternity leave says it all

JustASmallBear · 29/06/2025 21:52

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 21:28

What gets me is that this guy is a clear downgrade from the OP's ex and yet it doesn't look like she will tell him to sling his hook.

The OP has mentioned at least twice stuff about trying to keep the family together no matter what - so it looks as if she values this "family" more than she values not being taken for a ride by this man. She really wants to keep them all together.

So I think she's looking for a way to mitigate the worst elements of a man who's determined to clean her out, by trying to believe that if she protects her deposit then everything will be fine, and she hasn't actually been rinsed.

Sadly, as someone else mentioned earlier, this is a tale as old as time on MN, and most of us commenting know it'll only get worse for the OP, she'll end up with little or nothing, and he'll still be using his control methods to try and make her continue to believe (as she does at the moment) that he's supporting her (not vice versa), that it's all worth it to keep a family together (it isn't), and that they are actually earning the same amount of money (they aren't).

OP has also mentioned that her daughter hasn't suffered in any way, but I'd disagree with that because the daughter's suffered by her Mum subsidising this man, and having less money AND TIME to spend on and with her and her little brother.

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 29/06/2025 21:54

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 23:31

Well no, it’s not for me. I have two children, both with good fathers. Either way they both have a room in a nice house in a nice area and a mum who has a work schedule that enables me to do school drop offs and be present during all school holidays. They have and will continue to have a good life.

the mess is from the side of my partner and his son and I’m asking for advice about how much I should support them- but I’ve made it clear that compromising my own children is not part of the deal

Well it's nice that it's not a mess for you. The older son didn't choose to put himself in this position though, you did by choosing to have a baby with a man who already had a child. So I'd also say what a fucking mess, for both you and the older son, but mainly the older son.

Why do people care so bloody little for children who already exist? Why blow up their familes like this?

Buxusmortus · 29/06/2025 22:04

After everything you've written OP, how can you have any respect, left alone love, left for this man? He seems to be bringing difficulties and stress to your life, not love and joy as he should.

TakeMeDancing · 29/06/2025 22:07

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 21:07

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

he references the fact my exH is wealthy and whilst I was with him, my daughter and I led a very comfortable lifestyle and he knows I never had to worry about money. I just earned my bit, added it to the pot and looked after our daughter- old fashioned maybe but it worked for us and neither felt hard done by.

so because I’m used to having money, when I bring up our finances he makes me feel like I’m being money grabbing. He insinuates that I expected my exH to look after me and now I’m expecting him to.

DP also knows that if I separated from him and went back to live on my own, my exH would up my spousal maintenance so that daughter and I could live comfortably, he wouldn’t even be bothered that it was benefitting my new child. ExH believes that my DP supports me more than he actually does- he’d be furious to know that I used my savings for maternity.
DP always comments that ‘it’s ok for you because ExH will just come to the rescue’

so he hasn’t said the words yet, but I definitely feel like he’s bordering on calling me a gold digger

Ah, to have the confidence of a mediocre man…to have the gall to be a cocklodger slinging out gold digger accusations to the woman whose house you want yourself and your child to cocklodge in…

SpryCat · 29/06/2025 22:09

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?’

He might not of actually called you a gold digger but he is as good as saying you are!
You’ve been jumping through hoops, spending your savings, doing all the childcare and housework, it’s sounds like you’ve been trying to prove him wrong, that you’re not a gold digger! You know that if you told your ex about the financial imbalance in your relationship, he would call you a fool and tell you that you are risking your house, your security on someone who not only is a spendthrift, but is eyeing your home as a step up to getting a mortgage. If he thinks his son should get the biggest room in YOUR property, what will he expect when you buy a bigger property? Without you, he can’t get a mortgage, without you he couldn’t have his son 50/50 and even expected you to drive his son to school, a good distance away, without you, he’d have to clean and cook and pay 100% rent and bills. He’s using you big time and has got a massive chip on his shoulder about your ex as ex was generous and wouldn’t dream of using your property as a stepping stone to get ahead in life.

CanOfMangoTango · 29/06/2025 22:10

Funnily enough, he hasn’t yet called me a gold digger but whenever I do try to bring up the unfairness in our finances he does say ‘it’s all about money for you isn’t it?

With every update the picture gets worse.

He's telling on himself here, bigly.

It's funny how often these low grade men accuse their loving partners of attitudes and behaviours they themselves demonstrate.

It speaks to a very poor ability to self reflect and a pathological need to push away responsibility from themselves.

This guy feels entitled. To your resources, energy, money, time and house. But most of all your money.

mbosnz · 29/06/2025 22:13

If I were you, I'd be saying to him, that I agree with him that it's not workable him and his son shifting in, so he needs to find somewhere for them, nearby. I don't think it's all about the money with you, by any means. I think it's far more about the money with him, than he'd be comfortable you realising. And I think you should protect your resources from someone who is not a responsible caretaker of his own, who is perhaps likely to be a little bit too generous with yours, if allowed to be.

TwinklySquid · 29/06/2025 22:20

I can see where he is coming from with the two boys sharing the larger room. That’s just common sense.

However, it doesn’t sound like he’s a very good partner and so I wouldn’t be including him in the move.