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To be upset that DS12 falsely accused of racism based on hearsay

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Sleepdeprived42long · 25/06/2025 16:16

on call from school today we were told that DS has been accused of saying n-word twice about a black child (child 1) in the last few weeks. Child 1 did not hear it but has been told by another child (child 2) that my DS said it. School say they have interviewed other children allegedly in vicinity at the time of each incident who have all said DS did not say this. DS was oblivious until called in by year head last week and told about accusations, asked if he said it (he didn’t) and then told their investigation outcome was that he had not said it as everyone around him said he didn’t say it. He was told by year head that child 1 had not disclosed the identity of child 2 so they had not been interviewed. School would not have told us unless we’d actually contacted them about something completely different-neither DS or school think this is a big deal because he didn’t say it.

I feel really uneasy about the whole situation and not sure whether to let go or take further. Although I’m glad that the school have investigated and found he did not say it, I’m really concerned that 1) the school didn’t inform us when they were investigating or before discussing with my child 2) the school investigated an accusation based completely on hearsay (someone said that someone said) 3) child 2 (or possibly child 1) is making up some very serious rumours about my child 4) I’m concerned about what might have been recorded about the incident on my child’s school record! AIBU to feel concerned about this?

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Coconutter24 · 25/06/2025 19:20

Sleepdeprived42long · 25/06/2025 16:28

I think I would have had the school say to child 1 they couldn’t investigate without speaking to child 2 as they were the only ones who allegedly heard it?

And then when child 2 says he heard it they would then question other children close by at the supposed time which they have done anyway and found if he did or didn’t say it. Say really speaking to child 2 is irrelevant

CluelessBereavement · 25/06/2025 19:21

School seemed to have done the right thing. Well done to that school!

Why on earth would you expect to be told if your child hadn't done something??? Teachers would have to spend more time phoning parents than actually teaching if that was the case!

Sleepdeprived42long · 25/06/2025 19:49

CluelessBereavement · 25/06/2025 19:21

School seemed to have done the right thing. Well done to that school!

Why on earth would you expect to be told if your child hadn't done something??? Teachers would have to spend more time phoning parents than actually teaching if that was the case!

That’s a fair point I think. School (and DS as a result) seem to be treating it as a non issue which seen from that perspective does explain why they didn’t contact us.

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roaringmouse · 25/06/2025 20:09

In any situation involving serious allegations, schools have a duty to think about how they approach it, not just the outcome. Your DS being pulled into a conversation about potential racism, without warning or support or parental knowledge feels wrong to me and could've had a negative impact. Children need to feel safe and supported and it’s about making sure the process is fair, proportionate and doesn’t harm a child who’s done nothing wrong. Seems like things worked out okay in this instance, but I wouldn't be comfortable either.

Genevieva · 25/06/2025 20:54

5128gap · 25/06/2025 18:02

The school don't know the allegations are unfounded though. All they know is that no one else heard the slur, which means the allegations are unproven. If your child claimed to have heard another child use a racist slur, would you expect them to be punished for bullying if no one else said they'd heard it?

They’ve already concluded I’m the allegation was made up.

NoPrivateSpy · 25/06/2025 23:35

This has happened 3 times now to my child in year 8 and, like you, i was pretty horrified first time it happened. I have since come to realise it happens A LOT. They have to investigate and of course they should. Each time they have reached the right conclusion so I just crack on and tell my child how to handle it in future.

Sleepdeprived42long · 25/06/2025 23:44

NoPrivateSpy · 25/06/2025 23:35

This has happened 3 times now to my child in year 8 and, like you, i was pretty horrified first time it happened. I have since come to realise it happens A LOT. They have to investigate and of course they should. Each time they have reached the right conclusion so I just crack on and tell my child how to handle it in future.

I honestly cannot tell you how relieved this makes me (and slightly scared!)!

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NoPrivateSpy · 26/06/2025 23:12

Sleepdeprived42long · 25/06/2025 23:44

I honestly cannot tell you how relieved this makes me (and slightly scared!)!

Ah, glad I can help. But it’s awful initially, isn’t it. The teachers at our school seem pretty capable of telling when a child is telling the truth so I’ve kept my faith so far.

It would be interesting to hear from a teacher about how often this happens.

Moomdingou · 27/06/2025 01:06

I don’t see what the school did wrong? They investigated potential racist abuse, they didn’t need to inform you first that they were doing this. If a fight breaks out the school investigates it, they don’t wait around to speak to the parents. School records aren’t a thing, if anything serious happened in primary school then the secondary school would be told but if you’re child is already in secondary school what record to do you think he’s going to have? University’s only have access to grades and teacher recommendation, not something that happened when he was say 14. You’re overreacting massively.

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 05:49

NoPrivateSpy · 25/06/2025 23:35

This has happened 3 times now to my child in year 8 and, like you, i was pretty horrified first time it happened. I have since come to realise it happens A LOT. They have to investigate and of course they should. Each time they have reached the right conclusion so I just crack on and tell my child how to handle it in future.

Yes but your child presumably does tell you what’s happening so that you are aware of the situation and can advise him how to handle it. Whereas in the OP’s shoes,‘I’d be most concerned that my 12 year old had obviously gone through a fairly major drama at school, more than once, and kept it to himself.

absolutely nonsense that he wouldn’t have been worried about this. 12 years old, his first year in secondary, accused of saying one of THE worst words, that if he’d been found guilty would have likely have resulted in at least his suspension, his classmates interviewed, head of year involved etc. It would have been the talk of the year and it happened more than once. This would have been very distressing for him and my main worry would actually be my boy confiding in me.

MissJeanBrodiesmother · 01/07/2025 05:59

School looked into it and decided on balance he probably didn't say it. This kind of thing is common. Parents would not be told before the school spoke to the kids as it would not help and would in fact likely hinder things. You also need to let ho of the evidence thing. This isn't a court of law. Kids saying someone said x is standard. School make a call based on all kinds of factors. You are making this bigger than it needs to be.

TheaBrandt1 · 01/07/2025 06:18

It’s unsettling when you are accused of something. We had this on a train Dh politely but firmly asked a young couple to move as they were in our seats. They did. 10 minutes later they were back with the guard accusing Dh of all sorts.

Another passenger intervened and said he didn’t know any of us but Dh had been perfectly polite. 4 other unrelated passengers backed him up so the snowflakes and the guard slunk off. Our kids with us good lesson for them be very very careful what you say and independent witnesses are great!

NoPrivateSpy · 01/07/2025 22:52

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 05:49

Yes but your child presumably does tell you what’s happening so that you are aware of the situation and can advise him how to handle it. Whereas in the OP’s shoes,‘I’d be most concerned that my 12 year old had obviously gone through a fairly major drama at school, more than once, and kept it to himself.

absolutely nonsense that he wouldn’t have been worried about this. 12 years old, his first year in secondary, accused of saying one of THE worst words, that if he’d been found guilty would have likely have resulted in at least his suspension, his classmates interviewed, head of year involved etc. It would have been the talk of the year and it happened more than once. This would have been very distressing for him and my main worry would actually be my boy confiding in me.

Well in my case, my 12 year old was really worried and also felt a real sense of injustice. But he is also relatively sensitive. Also there was a lapse between being called in and told about the accusation and the result of the investigation.

In the OP’s case, they appeared to handle it a bit differently in that they called him in and dealt with it all in one go. Plus he may not be as sensitive as my son and generally have a better sense of perspective 🤷‍♀️

Itchytoe · 02/07/2025 21:24

NoPrivateSpy · 01/07/2025 22:52

Well in my case, my 12 year old was really worried and also felt a real sense of injustice. But he is also relatively sensitive. Also there was a lapse between being called in and told about the accusation and the result of the investigation.

In the OP’s case, they appeared to handle it a bit differently in that they called him in and dealt with it all in one go. Plus he may not be as sensitive as my son and generally have a better sense of perspective 🤷‍♀️

12 or 16 or 36 - I think being accused of saying something truly vilely racist… twice! And being questioned about, having your peers questioned, and hear of year involvement - it would be telling not to at least off hand mention to your parents when asked how your day was not matter how not sensitive you were

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