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AIBU The global fertility crisis is the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced?

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plantsdieinmyhouse · 22/06/2025 17:14

We’re in a ‘global fertility crisis’.

I’m astounded that global (even UK/European) fertility decline to below the replacement rate of 2.1 (thought to have happened now) isn’t in the forefront of most people’s radar. There are barely even any politicians acknowledging it let alone devising policies to tackle it.

Thee are even people who still think we’re in the 70s/80s/90s and ‘overpopulation’ is still an issue.

Once everyone who’s alone now is dead the human race will be in terminal decline.

Nothing else matters if there’s none of us left!

Even on a personal level a large proportion of women don’t have the number of DCs they expect to.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/43a9bd63-25c9-4941-bc99-fc9f7e42c12a?shareToken=29bf27cb9dafe9af7a006bc25355e411

We’re in a ‘global fertility crisis’. Does this woman have a solution?

Countries across the world are fretting about falling birthrates. Now one academic believes she’s discovered the cause – and has a plan to address it

https://www.thetimes.com/article/43a9bd63-25c9-4941-bc99-fc9f7e42c12a?shareToken=29bf27cb9dafe9af7a006bc25355e411

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Bridport · 22/06/2025 17:30

Nothing else matters if there’s none of us left!

There will still be nature and it will almost certainly be better off without us.

It makes my flesh creep when rich wing men like Trump, Vance and Farage drivel on about the birth rate. All a bit "Kinder, Küche, Kirche"

Pedallleur · 22/06/2025 17:30

World population in 1800 apparently 1 billion. 225 yrs later it's 8 billion. So another 7,000 million have to access the Earths finite resources whilst that 8 billion are changing those resources via climate change, deforestation etc

Birdsinginginthetrees · 22/06/2025 17:30

ladyofshertonabbas · 22/06/2025 17:19

This planet has finite resources, I welcome population decline. We will adjust- we have to and can.

And how will you feel if it’s one of your children who experience the heartbreak of infertility when they are older? I’ve experienced it and it was awful.

Snorlaxo · 22/06/2025 17:32

There isn’t a global fertility crisis.

I predict a difficult time of adjustment as tax revenues fall and people live longer in the West but we’ll “buy” tax payers in the form of immigrants as the cheapest way out.

EasternStandard · 22/06/2025 17:33

ladyofshertonabbas · 22/06/2025 17:19

This planet has finite resources, I welcome population decline. We will adjust- we have to and can.

Agree. I’m not for humans dying out as too extreme but constantly increasing isn’t going to work.

UndermyShoeJoe · 22/06/2025 17:33

Birdsinginginthetrees · 22/06/2025 17:30

And how will you feel if it’s one of your children who experience the heartbreak of infertility when they are older? I’ve experienced it and it was awful.

This isn’t about just actual fertility it’s about those choosing to not have children as well.

My sibling and his partner and very no children. They are the people this is also talking about they are choosing to not replace themselves.

user1476613140 · 22/06/2025 17:33

Look, I have 4DC. I have done my bit now! If each of them has 4, that's 16 grandchildren....

I know a woman in my village with 10 DC (not a blended family btw). Imagine if they each had 10 children each...

Alconleigh · 22/06/2025 17:34

We’re a cancer that wrecks the planet. It’s fine if we die out. Let the place recover and move on.

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 17:35

The population needs to shrink. It's unsustainable.

Luggagerackistopheavy · 22/06/2025 17:35

Oh for goodness sake. Not this again. There are 8 BILLION people on the planet. Would we be worried about any other animal on the planet 'only' having 8 billion remaining. Of course not. I hope to hell the population does drop. It gives the planet the breathing space it needs, gives us much needed green space and helps animals to thrive. Might we have to live a little differently if we continue to have an aging population? Yeah probably but so what? We're really not that important.

DontEvenBother · 22/06/2025 17:36

The world is a mess. We need to die out as a species - collectively, we're awful.

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 22/06/2025 17:36

Humans are terrible for everything on the planet.

'Earth Overshoot Day 2025 lands on July 24, the date when humanity will have used up nature's entire annual budget of ecological resources and services'

The UK having less than 60 years of nutrients left in the soil for crops to feed the enormous hoard of people should terrify everyone, and the upcoming climate catastrophe.
I'm proudly childfree.

REDB99 · 22/06/2025 17:37

My DD is 8 and most likely won’t live to see the fall out of this. Rich countries will poach the best people to come and live there and have the money to buy the resources they need for a long time yet. I also don’t think it’s a bad thing and if awful consequences do play out in my life time (I’m 45) I would honestly have the attitude that if we’ve messed it up to the point that there’s full on world wars over resources and dystopia is becoming a reality I’d think enough is enough, gather all my loved ones and pray the NHS is offering an easy way to end your life (and hope my loved ones feel the same as me) I’ve no want to survive for survival’s sake.

Womblingmerrily · 22/06/2025 17:37

I welcome population decline.

If it means we need to learn to live with less then so be it. The lifestyle most of us live is insane.

I don't think much of the trend for idolising longevity either - there is living and there is existing and pouring mammoth resources into existing is foolish.

Brefugee · 22/06/2025 17:38

it seems to be mostly Western or Global North nations whining about how women are having too few babies.

I would suggest to those nations that they take a good, long, hard look at how they treat women, especially women with children, before they try to coerce us into having more. They should be treating us like queens and worshipping us like goddesses.

Deadringer · 22/06/2025 17:38

It's not a fertility crisis, the world is very over populated, it's a potential aging population in society crisis, for some countries anyway. So it's a money issue, not a fertility one.

smallglassbottle · 22/06/2025 17:38

I don't particularly want my two children to have children. I'd sooner it was their choice than through infertility, but I don't think it's a stable world to bring them into and they're ND so would likely pass the difficulties on to their children. It's getting harder and harder to live with ND in this world. I highly doubt they will have children due to circumstances.

user7529706387 · 22/06/2025 17:38

Climate change,
water shortages, therefore food shortages,
A I taking over and doing better nearly all jobs.
impending WW3.
l can’t see the population decreasing as anything other than a good thing! The world would be a much better place with 3 or 4 billion less of us.

Myrobalanna · 22/06/2025 17:40

DontEvenBother · 22/06/2025 17:36

The world is a mess. We need to die out as a species - collectively, we're awful.

I think this often! We are so harmful, to nature, to each other.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 22/06/2025 17:41

Shame you didn’t put this to a vote. I think it would be overwhelmingly ‘YABU’.

Lioncub2020 · 22/06/2025 17:43

The world is still over populated. It's just it will become increasingly overpopulated by old people.

Yoinkk · 22/06/2025 17:44

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 22/06/2025 17:19

There are plenty of humans and if we eventually die out, so what?

How convenient to champion human extinction when you won’t be around for the fallout. It’s not enlightened—it’s cruel. The human race 'dying out' is not a peaceful fade-out; it's crumbling systems, suffering elderly, and a lonely, decaying world for the last generations. That’s maybe three or four generations from now—not some distant future, so maybe the grandchildren of today's kids. You’ll be long gone, having probably died with medications, doctors and care so you get to feel smug now while others inherit the collapse.

Advocating for mass suffering you won’t experience isn’t just immoral—it’s ignorant.

smallglassbottle · 22/06/2025 17:44

Before too long, scientists will have worked out how to grow humans without any input from parents, so I don't think humans will die out if women refuse to have them anymore. The scientists will grow people according to what the rich want/need. They'll probably demand slaves for entertainment and to do jobs that robots aren't able to do. It'll end up like a cross between Hunger Games and Hostel with the rich inflicting ever more cruelty on individuals when they've had enough of them.

FatherFrosty · 22/06/2025 17:45

We are an absolute scourge on this planet.
War, climate change, housing instability. Cost of everything rising. I cannot think for a minute why people might be choosing not to have children.

Nackyposter · 22/06/2025 17:45

Blessed day.