To think Tattle life isn’t actually that bad?

[Queenofclean101]

Firstly I am not a member, but I do have a read occasionally. I’m sure that there’ll be people here who don’t know what it is, or have never read it, so feel free to ignore. The website is always in the news and there’s a lot of uproar about it.

From what I’ve read and seen on Tattle, it’s no worse/different from the way people speak about celebs and sometimes to each other on mumsnet and other forums. There have been plenty of vicious threads on here about people. Tabloids have always trolled celebs too and they get away with it. Even posting unflattering photos with snidely headlines.

The only difference is tattle is mainly solely about discussing/criticising celebs/influencers.

A lot of influencers tell many lies and exploit their young children in order to sell crap to the public and people on tattle seem to call them out on their lies. Which I don’t think is always a bad thing.

I don’t really get the uproar about this particular website.

I wondered why it had such a bad reputation, too. I'd only dipped in a few times and the members seem really supportive and nice to each other. Then I looked at a thread about Alice (Evans? Not sure on her last name, but she was going through a divorce) after seeing a thread on here and googling her. The stuff on here wasn't particularly kind, but on Tattle it was absolutely brutal, and would have been taken down on MN.

I occasionally sections on true crime etc. There are some threads on there that are absolutely unhinged though where users are basically stalking people who have modest social media followings. I do think the tabloids/legacy media being critical is laughable though given their history of phone tapping, celeb gossip etc.

I am a Tattle member … never go onto the threads about Instagrammers and Influencers, as I don’t know who any of them are.

I go on onto News, Politics, Current Affairs, True Crime, TV & Film. There us loads on there that is nothing to do with Celebs.

I think The Mail has a cheek, calling somewhere “hate filled” .. pot, kettle, black. Plus they lift stories directly from the site.

Edit to say I occasionaly read the the true crime sections. Not a member and I think closing membership has made some threads like celeb gossip boring, just the same old posters with nothing new.

I’m open to having my mind changed. Obviously I haven’t read every thread on there, and I wouldn’t know who half of the celebs are.

The ones I have read though, although a bit brutal and stalkerish, are generally exposing influencers for their lying and using their small children.

So to be honest, I think that filming your children on the toilet, in the bath, having a tantrum and posting it for millions to see just so that you can sell some tat, is pretty morally bankrupt itself.

The Daily Mail poss disgusting lies about all sorts of people day in day out.

Also think that celebrities complaining about privacy when they’ve made their living out of sharing intimate details of their lives and filming inside their homes and their children’s private moments is very hypocritical.

They just want to be able to control what’s being said about them to keep a polished image,

So you’re saying that spotting a content creator/influencer in your home town, following them around and taking videos and pictures of them is not bad?

Telling the forum “I know where they live” and because tabloids are “allowed to do it” that makes it okay?

Ringing up every school in the area to find out where their children go to school and then reporting them to Social Services is acceptable and not that bad?

The above is an unhealthy obsession with someone you don’t like to get validation from strangers on the internet.

I wonder if you’re one of the guilty ones who is panicking and deleted their threads, comments and accounts.

I read the Strictly thread on there and it's absolutely hilarious. A little snarky sometimes but not too bad.

I found Tattle when I googled Jack Monroe, I was suspicious how she could still be broke after so many books, tv appearances etc. It was illuminating to say the least. Same with Caroline Hirons (who is leading the charge atm to try and get tattle shut down 🙄), just wanted to see if anyone else found her totally hypocritical. Turns out they do!

There are some differences from Mumsnet, I think. Firstly, untruths are discussed so regularly, they assume the status of truth. Secondly, really nasty and misogynistic insults about physical appearance and sexual behaviour are not deleted. Thirdly, abusive name-calling is endemic.

I only heard about it from MN. One peruse of it was enough.

50 page threads with people prattling on hatefully about Katie Price or some influencer? Nah, I’m good!

I haven't delved that deeply but it seems like a vitriolic gossip site mostly aimed at women. There was no fact checking so people could make up whatever they liked. Users seemed to see themselves as providing a valuable service by destroying people's reputations and mental health. I'm sure they'll eventually make the NY honours list.

I know a woman who’s been ripped to shreds on there. The thread about her is full of lies made up by her nasty abusive violent ex, under another name of course. The morons on there believe everything they read, and love nothing better than mass reporting to social services. Of course nothing comes of this as there’s no truth in any of it. Also while SS are having to investigate these false allegations they’re losing the time they need for people who actually do need help. It’s a horrible site full of awful people.

Tattle is an excellent forum. Subjects are discussed on there which don't get aired enough because other media (including Mumsnet) routinely censor for commercial sensitivities or they have 'be kind' editors / imagined audiences.

I've seen some impressive research, especially on current affairs discussions, and it disrupts the business models of some egregious 'influencer' grifting.

Some threads are just fun, some are wild but I don't consider their celebrity subjects to be vulnerable.

I'm howling at po-faced headlines about 'the most hateful site on the internet' - have these compliant journos never seen the 4Chan / 8Chan / supporters of race wars / rape site hells on the internet? Seriously?

The reason it's being targeted is its main user demographic is women, many of whom are middle-aged, and have the temerity to take the piss out of slebs, think Lucy Letby is guilty and impolitely discuss transwars instead of being nice, quiet, supportive ladies.

When it was threatened a few months back, looking like it might be pulled, users were literally rebuilding it from scratch - I don't think it's going anywhere. I was there when Huw Edwards' arse appeared in real time - great days.

I've been on it. Its definitely an eyeopener. One z list celebrity who paints herself as a great hands on down to earth mum. When actually she's far from it. The tattle thread might be harsh at times but they're spot on with what they point out about her.

I haven't seen the brutal threads but i dont spend much time on it. I find it hard to navigate and very slow

If people were just genuinely discussing issues or poking fun at celebrities and influencers there wouldn't be this problem. Doxxing, hate speech, slander and people getting death threats as a result are the issue, which does go on in spades so I'm not sure why there is so much faux innocence about it.

People hide behind anonymity too much.

It's definitely not the worst site on the internet though.

I used to be on the GOMI site which was discussion about bloggers back in the day. That was all about a place for negatively/opinions but there were limits in that you'd discuss the content not peoples appearances, not hate rant, you wouldn't interact with them through comments, nor interfere with their real lives - so no contacting bloggers sponsors etc. It was witty and interesting and valid.

Tattle is awful commentary with some legitimate feedback somewhere within the bile. I think it depends on the thread how awful or not they are.

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I adore tiktok and will defend it forever, but so many people hate it because they don't see what I'm seeing because of the algorithm. I think it's possible for Tattler and MN to fall prey to the same kind of criticism if you don't use nuance, critical thinking etc. "MN is full of blah blah blah because 3 whole posters were horrible to me"

Tattle obviously 🫣

There have been plenty of vicious threads on here about people. Tabloids have always trolled celebs too and they get away with it. Even posting unflattering photos with snidely headlines.

Posting unflattering photos with snide headlines isn't a crime.

Posting libelous statements, stalking and harassing people is against the law, that's the difference. Tabloids absolutely don't get away with it. They're very careful and employ massive legal departments to tell them exactly what they can and can't get away with, and end up paying out huge sums of money when they screw up.

People get very brave on the Internet when they think they're anonymous, but as a lot of Tattle users are about to find out, there's no such thing as complete anonymity.

I'm sure there were people on Tattle with a legitimate interest in protecting people from scams or exposing fraudsters, but for every one of them it seemed like there were five Facebook Mum Detectives with nothing better to do, who hated the fact that 'influencers' or celebrities seemingly had an easier life than they did, and set out to ruin it.

I don't like influencer culture and I especially don't like anyone (celebrity or otherwise) posting their kids on social media, but the specific legal difficulties Tattle is currently encountering are because so much of what is posted is simply not true. That's where the successful defamation suit has come from (and more will likely follow).

The general feeling of the site is vindictive, mean-spirited and obsessive, but none of that is illegal. However, the fact that the site routinely publishes defamatory statements about people is a different kettle of fish. That's why it's controversial.

I’ve only been on once and what I saw really appalled me- people tracking influencers and journalists across SM and using anything they could to criticise them. There was a weird obsessiveness to it- clearly for some posters monitoring and slagging off a particular influencer was their main occupation.

Thst doesn’t mean they deserve harassment and stalking.

Mumsnet can be horrible—there’s a lot of bullying and cruel comments.

I think it’s the anonymity that is the real legal problem, especially when people write statements and comments about others. Individuals should have the right to counteract false or slanderous comments in court.