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Am I the c#%t??

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cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 20:44

Walking my cavapoo today in a big open and empty field. He trots along happily off the lead, if he comes across another dog he will go and give them a sniff and be on his way.

usually if I see another dog on a lead I will put him on a lead too. I didn’t see this woman soon enough as she appeared from behind a bush. Big gnarly dog on a lead XL bully type dog. My dogs starts trotting in her direction, she goes mental shouting “go away, this is a dangerous dog, get your fucking dig away” etc. I called Doggo over and put him on a lead, no drama. She is still mouthing off at me, to which I replied “all right calm down!” This set the mad woman off shouting that I’m a fucking idiot and her dog would rip mine to bits and I shouldn’t let him off the lead. To which I replied “you’re the one with the aggressive dog you can’t control, who is the real idiot here?” I then got called a butch and a c£&t!

Now is it me that is a c£&t? Or the person with a massive aggressive dog that was literally pulling her along??

OP posts:
freedoggos · 18/06/2025 23:10

Not having been there, no idea whether the OP was in the wrong... but I'm so glad I'm not living in the UK. This seems crazy that people think every dog should be on a lead when on a walk for fear of it approaching other dogs. What sort of life is it for an animal to be tethered whenever it gets the chance to go out and interact with other dogs if they're not aggressive and pose no threat and are just doing what dogs need to do, which is sniff and wag and say hi? Unfortunately some poor dogs are traumatised and need to be muzzled when there is a risk they will react to other dogs in public. But to think that therefore all dogs need to be on a lead at all times is so sad.

Lettuceleafy · 18/06/2025 23:11

It’s no wonder the dog is aggressive with her for an owner.

HoskinsChoice · 18/06/2025 23:18

EllyRoff · 18/06/2025 20:55

I wouldn’t go as far as to say you’re a cunt but you shouldn’t allow your dog to go up to other dogs. Mine would rip him up too unfortunately. Mine is obviously always on a lead and people with off lead dogs are the bane of my life

It's this attitude that really puts dog owners in a bad light. You and your dog are the problem, not the dogs off lead. Dogs are naturally sociable animals and their mental and physical health is much enhanced through play, independent exploration and interface with other dogs and people. Why should you, in the minority, ruin the freedom of the majority.

Train your dog, make sure it is under control, away from others and muzzled. You will have no issues then.

GiBlues · 18/06/2025 23:19

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 20:44

Walking my cavapoo today in a big open and empty field. He trots along happily off the lead, if he comes across another dog he will go and give them a sniff and be on his way.

usually if I see another dog on a lead I will put him on a lead too. I didn’t see this woman soon enough as she appeared from behind a bush. Big gnarly dog on a lead XL bully type dog. My dogs starts trotting in her direction, she goes mental shouting “go away, this is a dangerous dog, get your fucking dig away” etc. I called Doggo over and put him on a lead, no drama. She is still mouthing off at me, to which I replied “all right calm down!” This set the mad woman off shouting that I’m a fucking idiot and her dog would rip mine to bits and I shouldn’t let him off the lead. To which I replied “you’re the one with the aggressive dog you can’t control, who is the real idiot here?” I then got called a butch and a c£&t!

Now is it me that is a c£&t? Or the person with a massive aggressive dog that was literally pulling her along??

After reading your replies to posters on here, yes, you are the cunt.
Hope that helps.

Soontobesingles · 18/06/2025 23:20

I have a reactive rescue. Lovely indoors with family, aggressive with other dogs. The amount of people who walk around oblivious letting their dog run up to another dog for a ‘sniff’ or a ‘play’ is astounding. It is cruel to reactive dogs to let your pet do this. If you are unable to have a dog walk to heel and only approach for play or curiosity on command dog should not be off lead imo. Also a big bugbear of mine is off lead dogs in on-lead areas such as fields, beaches, parks etc specifically marked as ‘on lead only’. You might think it’s nice for your do to run about but because of the frequency with which off lead dogs approach us, any off lead dog is now a trigger for my dog even off in the distance so we stay to on lead area walks only…but oh no ‘my dog is fine off lead.’

snackatack · 18/06/2025 23:20

I think the person in the park was rude.

Your replies to lots of people - who don't agree with you - are rude too.

IMO Dogs should not be allowed off lead in public spaces

LancashireButterPie · 18/06/2025 23:21

Alltheyellowbirds · 18/06/2025 21:04

Came to say same, I don’t understand why anyone would want a pet that would rip other dogs/cats/children “to pieces” at any opportunity. And if you do accidentally end up with a dog like that why are you taking it out to a public place without a muzzle? Or at all actually? The chance that something might go wrong would terrify me. I couldn’t rely just on the fact that it was on a lead - what if it pulled the leaf from my hands? Or another dog or a CHILD simply got too close?

Coz they are well 'ard.

EdisinBurgh · 18/06/2025 23:21

No dogs shouldn’t run up to other dogs on a lead.

yes it happens sometimes (they’re not robots, sometimes it’s a surprise etc) and children do it too

Does the dog or the child deserve to be ripped to pieces and killed if they do accidentally go up to the vicious dog on a lead?

I think not. Vicious dogs that are likely to bite into someone who approaches them unbidden shouldn’t exist.

The stakes are too high.

Swirlythingy2025 · 18/06/2025 23:22

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:09

Maybe get a dog that isn’t aggressive and that you can control. Problem solved!

or problem solved if people put dogs on leads, any dog can be nasty as experienced on rounds as a postman, as long as its legal then all dogs should be on leads

aster10 · 18/06/2025 23:25

HoskinsChoice · 18/06/2025 23:18

It's this attitude that really puts dog owners in a bad light. You and your dog are the problem, not the dogs off lead. Dogs are naturally sociable animals and their mental and physical health is much enhanced through play, independent exploration and interface with other dogs and people. Why should you, in the minority, ruin the freedom of the majority.

Train your dog, make sure it is under control, away from others and muzzled. You will have no issues then.

This. I walk my cocker every day off lead. The etiquette dictates that I take her on the lead if another dog on the lead approaches, unless that other dog’s owners signal to me that she’s fine off the lead. Have been doing so for the last 10 years and with my first dog also. And everyone walking their dog off lead does the same. Dogs say hi (sniff each other) and might play. This is the essence of a dog’s life, like breathing, eating, drinking, sleeping, playing. I couldn’t believe some posts here, it felt as if I live on a different planet. Like somebody would tell me - you cannot let your dog drink.

mellymoop · 18/06/2025 23:26

Seems ridiculous to have your dog on a lead in an open space/dog park.

If you have a dangerous dog that can’t be off leash and/or tolerate other dogs approaching it without risk of attack - don’t take it to the bloody open space where you know other dogs will be off leash!!

4PawsandATail · 18/06/2025 23:28

You shouldn't be allowing your dog to go up to anyone - human or otherwise especially off lead even if it's for "a little sniff".

Butchyrestingface · 18/06/2025 23:29

It's well seen you didn't enable voting on whether or not you're a cunt, @cantthinkofausername26 . Easter Grin

Itchybritches · 18/06/2025 23:34

mellymoop · 18/06/2025 23:26

Seems ridiculous to have your dog on a lead in an open space/dog park.

If you have a dangerous dog that can’t be off leash and/or tolerate other dogs approaching it without risk of attack - don’t take it to the bloody open space where you know other dogs will be off leash!!

It is solved instantly by having your off-lead dog under control and not allowing it to invade another dog’s space. Doesn’t matter if the dog on a lead is aggressive or not - it shouldn’t be approached by another dog unless both owners are happy. That is responsible dog ownership.

50lbstolose · 18/06/2025 23:35

My frenchie had an injury which meant when other dogs came up to him he felt vulnerable and could be aggressive. He was very well trained, with great recall, but I kept him on a short leash when out for walks because I was a responsible dog owner. Idiot owners like you made our lives a nightmare.
Don't let your dog approach another dog on a lead, ever!

They don't have to be an 'aggressive' breed. The fact that you are trying to justify your poor behaviour is the read why you shouldn't own a dog

50lbstolose · 18/06/2025 23:37

@mellymoop don't be ridiculous.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/06/2025 23:49

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:46

I love it when people try to insult you but they can’t use basic grammar correctly

Perhaps you ought to read through your own posts here, in that case. You frequently begin sentences without a capital, and your punctuation leaves a lot to be desired.

Hellohelga · 18/06/2025 23:58

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:12

Well I’m more inclined to think that if morons weren’t allowed to have dangerous dogs the problem really would be solved wouldn't it

Most dogs that are dog reactive are perfectly fine with people. They just don’t like other dogs approaching and getting in their face or sniffing their bottom. Usually they are not born that way but become that way through scary experiences with other dogs. Your own DDog could become dog reactive if it was attacked and hurt and there is no way you would rush out and PTS.

Once a dog becomes reactive the owners world changes. They need to try and change the behaviour with training, but also manage the behaviour to keep everyone safe. Sounds like this person was trying to that by keeping her dog on a lead. She should not have been rude to you but as a dog owner you should have had way more awareness. I assume this is your first dog. Next time be quicker with the lead and recall. If you mess up just say sorry and move on.

Tartantotty · 19/06/2025 00:00

The woman behaved badly, but you were out of line letting your dog trot up to the other hound off the lead. Take it as a lesson learnt and stop worrying.

In a wider context dogs as different at cockapoos and XL bully types just don't mix - neither do their owners. We could go down a whole rabbit hole of dog culture there bu tthat's for another day.

mellymoop · 19/06/2025 00:12

50lbstolose · 18/06/2025 23:37

@mellymoop don't be ridiculous.

How is it ridiculous to not take your dangerous dog to a dog park - where you know others dogs will be off leash - if your dog can’t take other dogs approaching it??!

What the absolute nonsense is going on in the uk?! You all have your dogs on leash in-between ball chases then? 😂

mellymoop · 19/06/2025 00:15

Itchybritches · 18/06/2025 23:34

It is solved instantly by having your off-lead dog under control and not allowing it to invade another dog’s space. Doesn’t matter if the dog on a lead is aggressive or not - it shouldn’t be approached by another dog unless both owners are happy. That is responsible dog ownership.

No. In a dog park, you must expect other dogs will approach your dog.

If you know your dog will not react well in this situation, you do not take your dog to a dog park.

When not in a dog park - yes, you are obviously correct.

Miniaturemom · 19/06/2025 00:16

There’s no excuse for her speaking to you like that. My mom’s dog was attacked by another dog as a puppy and is very reactive to other dogs out of fear. He’s a medium sized dog. I don’t leave him alone with my young kids obviously, but he’s an old boy now and tolerates absolutely anything the kids do to him even when they were toddlers with poor motor skills. He just gets up and walks away if he can’t take it anymore. Reactive to dogs doesn’t mean aggressive to people necessarily. If a dog comes up to him off lead he goes into protective survival mode and may try to attack preemptively. It’s hard for my elderly mother to walk him and she’s tried everything.
exactly like Hellohelga said a few posts up.

TheSilentSister · 19/06/2025 00:17

I've had my fair few share of dogs over the years. The misery of having one that's reactive or aggressive, is no fun at all. You can't relax, constantly on your guard. To think it's other peoples problem, just no. It's not, it's you with the nasty dog sadly.
My current dog is one of the best I've ever had. He's a joy to walk on or off the lead. I don't see why I should permanently keep my 'good' dog on a lead. If I see a dog on a lead, I know there's a reason and will call my dog and put him on a lead. If he doesn't respond immediately, I am extremely apologetic. There's no joy in walking a dog that is too dangerous to have around other dogs. The big breed types are usually a penis extension or lack of height - so there!

Daygloboo · 19/06/2025 00:22

Like I said before, I love dogs but dont have one. I thought it was part of the dog world that people.went to parks and let their dogs off leads so that they could all sniff and play together. Obviously I have a lot to learn. I thought they were only meant to be on lead if on a pavement or something. What about all those dogs in places like Spain that all run around in giant packs. They tend not to fight.

Alltheyellowbirds · 19/06/2025 00:23

mellymoop · 19/06/2025 00:12

How is it ridiculous to not take your dangerous dog to a dog park - where you know others dogs will be off leash - if your dog can’t take other dogs approaching it??!

What the absolute nonsense is going on in the uk?! You all have your dogs on leash in-between ball chases then? 😂

Honestly, it seems quite a recent thing. When I was growing up you kept your dog on a lead when you were walking along a road, you let them off the lead as soon as you got to the park or beach. You wouldn’t have dreamed of not letting them run free as long as they were trained to return on command. Now people get totally shamed for having their dog off-lead even if it’s completely trained and perfectly well behaved, just in case it gets too close to another dog which is aggressive and it sets that dog off. No-one seems to think that perhaps the aggressive dog shouldn’t be there, or should at the least be muzzled, they just blame the person who dared to let their well-behaved dog off the lead. I didn’t realise how bad it had got till I read this thread - the blame the OP is getting is madness to me.

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