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22 kids and counting...

72 replies

LookingAtMyBhunas · 18/06/2025 17:31

AIBU to think they're not actually great parents?

I'm watching an older series and they've just been told by one of the siblings that some of the younger ones are carrying knives. Cue a very half hearted 'Oh nooo that's not ideal is it' and a weak chat with one of them.

This is just one example. I'm not going to comment on him being 17 and her 13 when she got pregnant with their first.... 😬

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Namechangedididittoo · 21/06/2025 15:37

MugsyBalonz · 19/06/2025 18:15

I remember in early series' of their TV show, an episode where Noel was shown taking the door handles off the children's rooms at night while explaining that it made sure everyone stayed in bed until morning and that he and Sue got enough sleep.

I feel for those children. They might be loved but love isn't enough, there is no way they get the level of nurturing or attention a child needs simply because there are too many children and not enough hours in the day.

That’s awful what if there was a fire or other emergency

Jujujudo · 21/06/2025 16:07

My husband is one of 8, a religious background. His mother was pregnant with her first child at 15 and she continued into her late 30’s. The oldest is now in her 70’s and the youngest is early 50’s. They
tell stories about their youth and it sounds awful. They didn’t always have beds to sleep in, they said they were always hungry, no privacy etc. They looked after each other and there was no time for one one times with their parents, or cuddles and bedtime stories and not enough investment in education- my husband left school aged 15 not being able to read. The upside is that now there are many of them, there’s a huge family, plenty of care for the elderly parents and they all turned out reasonably ok. Personally it’s not how I would want my family to look like, but I invest everything into my kids so it’s very different. I don’t think it’s fair on children to be with so many siblings, but I suppose it creates independence and self advocacy. I also don’t understand the finances of it - how can anyone afford to feed, clothe and educate that many children?

Profpudding · 21/06/2025 16:54

goudacheese · 20/06/2025 20:59

Something a bit odd about Sue, not quite the ticket. They are always off to Disneyworld too, which again is weird, a bit like the creepy American family who locked up their 15 kids.

Shes trying to have a childhood herself.

Ilovepastafortea · 22/06/2025 17:59

DelboytrottersDnecklace · 19/06/2025 20:29

I once caught a few minutes of this programme while flicking through the channels

It was the radfords meeting another large family (the other family may have been American but I'm not sure)

The other father said something about loving the making of the kids

The radioed fathers whole body language lit up-'oh yes,the making of them'

It was really creepy-from the smug smile to his body lighting up

It's like he loves the shag and the kids are the by-product of it

There is an easy way of having a shag without creating kids - it's called contraception.

DelboytrottersDnecklace · 22/06/2025 18:30

Ilovepastafortea · 22/06/2025 17:59

There is an easy way of having a shag without creating kids - it's called contraception.

I know this
Seems he doesnt-they seem addicted to having kids
I honestly wonder if it's her that likes the baby bit and he loves the sex

toohotoutside · 22/06/2025 18:45

I can only imagine what condition her pelvic floor is in after 22 labours.

Rabbitmother1 · 22/06/2025 18:52

Natureearthlove · 20/06/2025 08:04

Can’t stand them and don’t understand how folk can think they are so wonderful Confused

Dividing your attention between 22 kids is impossible, certainly no 1 to 1 time for them.
The older siblings were live in babysitters for the to younger kids.

I think she just enjoyed being pregnant and became addicted to it, which I believe is selfish.

She could have became a surrogate or if it was just a case she wanted a big family, she could have fostered - that’s my honest opinion.

That’s not how fostering works…

MugsyBalonz · 22/06/2025 19:35

Profpudding · 21/06/2025 16:54

Shes trying to have a childhood herself.

She had a childhood. They were both adopted as babies and grew up in a family environment, their adoptive parents have been on the TV show so are still very much involved.

Finallybreathingout · 22/06/2025 19:56

She has a childhood that ended when she got pregnant, so very much curtailed. My child is 14 and the very idea of her having already had a baby blows my mind.

user1476613140 · 22/06/2025 19:59

Mademetoxic · 19/06/2025 21:18

They exploit their children for money.

Yeah, like Ryan's World family and others similar. It's disgusting.

Natureearthlove · 22/06/2025 20:34

Rabbitmother1 · 22/06/2025 18:52

That’s not how fostering works…

I know fostering doesn’t mean keeping the child but if wanting to be around a more kids was what she wanted then it could have helped fill that gap.

BabyBump1212 · 22/06/2025 20:43

Can't stand them. Sue is obviously mentally stunted. She's obviously menopausal now so she got a load of designer dogs,and a poor sheepdog that's never walked 😡Now the endless once in a lifetime trips to Disney. The children could use some manners too, especially the younger girls.

BabyBump1212 · 22/06/2025 20:47

leopardprint17 · 19/06/2025 22:01

If they are child performers, does that entitle them to be paid? Thats a lot of wages!

Obviously not getting paid. The older ones are in social housing. You'd think they'd be able to afford to give them deposits on their homes, especially as they wouldn't have the money if it wasn't for them 🙄

Profpudding · 23/06/2025 08:01

Natureearthlove · 22/06/2025 20:34

I know fostering doesn’t mean keeping the child but if wanting to be around a more kids was what she wanted then it could have helped fill that gap.

Do you actually think they would pass the vetting process?

BabyBump1212 · 23/06/2025 08:44

Profpudding · 23/06/2025 08:01

Do you actually think they would pass the vetting process?

Of course not. Most of the children's bedrooms are no bigger than a cupboard or they have to share beds. They'd never be allowed.

Cardiganwearer · 23/06/2025 09:04

With that many children, how do you even do the basics like take them all to the dentist? The optician? How do you go to all the parents evenings? Can you imagine the shoe shopping? It boggles my mind. Maybe they just don’t do those things.

Natureearthlove · 23/06/2025 09:48

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Finallybreathingout · 23/06/2025 09:52

I’d like to think that no man who had impregnated a 13 year old would be cleared to foster.

justkeepswimingswiming · 23/06/2025 09:55

I used to like them, but the 2-3-4 hoildays to disneyworld every year and missing school everytime is over the top. Theyd never get cleared to foster, they barely have 1-1 time with their current kids and a foster kid would need a lot
of time & energy put into them!

Profpudding · 23/06/2025 10:18

Finallybreathingout · 23/06/2025 09:52

I’d like to think that no man who had impregnated a 13 year old would be cleared to foster.

Sadly, I think he would be surprised as to who slipped through the net. The reason they would be turned down would be lack of space not lack of morality.
I’ve known people with a loft conversion be deemed unsuitable. And somebody with a very violent past Who just hasn’t actually been convicted, They have been charged. Allowed to Foster

LookingAtMyBhunas · 23/06/2025 17:59

I don't get the 'it's OK because they're not claiming benefits' thing either.
They almost certainly do claim a lot, just because he's got a job as well doesn't mean they don't. Plus the drain on their local area through schooling /GP etc.

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toohotoutside · 25/06/2025 09:46

Finallybreathingout · 23/06/2025 09:52

I’d like to think that no man who had impregnated a 13 year old would be cleared to foster.

That poor baby Leiland-James was killed by a woman who was adopting him who went to her doctor and said she was depressed, had anger issues, drank 6 bottles of wine a week and had uncontrollable mood swings but even that wasn’t flagged as a risk factor during a background check neither were social services concerned that she had her own child at home and she subsequently lost her temper and killed the baby so I doubt it would matter if he had historically performed statutory rape.

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