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To ask if you've ever met up with an old friend/acquaintance and they've TOTALLY changed?

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tworoundsofwaterplease · 17/06/2025 15:24

I used to work with this person when I was at college. We both worked in a restaurant-for about 2-3 years.

We got on well, he was some 12 years my senior...he was quite loud and flamboyant in some ways but also very popular. We were Fb friends after that but haven't seen one another.

Fast forward some ten years and I have moved back to the town I worked with him in and around this time he sent me a msg on fb. Apparently in all the time we'd been fb friends he hadn't realised who I were and now he was so glad to know and can we meet up for a few drinks. I was fine with this idea as I don't know many people around here now.

We exchanged a few messages and he told me he now ran a cocktail bar in a village nearby, and was single but seeing a woman who was a regular there. We arranged for me to go into this cocktail bar for a few drinks and he told me to please never mention to her about his paratrooper background was I ever to meet her as he wanted her to like him for him, and not for being an elite soldier. This was weird thing number one as I'd never known he was 'an elite soldier' when we worked together. Anyway I didn't meet her as he changed the plan to go and meet in the city instead and 'have a few drinks by the river'.

Weird thing number 2 was he was meant to meet me at a landmark in the city but rang once already late to tell me he was going to be late as his boss had kept him behind. Boss, when he runs the place? He told me to go and get myself a drink at a nearby bar and wait for him (I didn't know this area of the city) so I found the bar and went. Weird thing number 3he turned up at the bar, some 30 mins late, with a cool box, and went into the bar to put contents of the cool box in the fridge and get some water to put in it.

I finished my glass of wine and he went back into the pub to get me another-from a bottle he'd stashed in the fridge-I found this odd but assumed he must know the owners of the bar, and it was nice of him to buy me a bottle of wine.

Weird thing number 4, we walked down to the river. I'd assumed 'a few drinks by the river' meant to go and sit in one of the pubs or bars near it but his idea was to drink from the bottles of wine he'd brought with him, he'd brought one for him one for me.

Weird thing number 5 was what alarmed me more. On the walk down to the river he kept trying to hold my hand, and while we sat by the river (on a step) he kept putting his hand on my leg.

He also talked extensively about his military career and told me that if I am ever interrogated, don't worry because he's given me false names so I don't really know anything.

While we sat on this step drinking wine, I got worried about what to do if I needed the loo-he mentioned this and then went into one of the nearby bars, returned and said that they were fine with us using the loo. I had had enough of drinking wine on a step by this point so asked him if we could go into one of the bars. He said yes, but if the one where we're permitted to use the loo, he has to pretend to be from Texas as he'd told them he was when asking to use the loo. I was bemused but helped him create a story about being from Texas. I am now thinking 'I need to get away from this weird situation' and feeling quite uncomfortable, and after paying for the drinks in this bar (I'd realised he must be skint to be carting bottles of wine about instead of going into establishments) I ordered a taxi.

He seems very excited about our friendship too and keeps ringing and messaging me inviting me to things. I ignored a call last night and then he rang me from a different number today to invite me to a dinner party on Friday, I don't want to go. I am scared I'll end up in someone's freezer.

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didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 17/06/2025 15:26

Sounds fun. Hope your second date goes just as well.

tworoundsofwaterplease · 17/06/2025 15:28

I hope he didn't think it were a date! He can't have, he knows I am gay and have just broken up with a long term (female!) partner.
I meant to ask if anyone's ever had anything like this-where people they've got back in touch with have just totally and completely changed over time?

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B1anche · 17/06/2025 15:30

He sounds very strange, and possibly dangerous. I would block him on everything and steer clear. Bottles of wine in pub fridges? Pretending to be from Texas? Fake details? WTAF?

LadyLucyWells · 17/06/2025 15:30

'He also talked extensively about his military career and told me that if I am ever interrogated, don't worry because he's given me false names so I don't really know anything.'

Wow! It makes me think of that Dom Joly sketch 'are you red fox?'

Such a strange encounter! I wouldn't see him again either. Time to go undercover.

Midmeddlecum · 17/06/2025 15:31

Block, and based on what you say he was like, if he doesn’t take no for an answer, police.

tworoundsofwaterplease · 17/06/2025 15:31

Yes,I did feel a bit endangered to be honest. I just found it weird-had it been an online date or something fair enough but I used to know him and he was totally normal and nothing at all like this.

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JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2025 15:33

Weird thing number 5 was what alarmed me more. On the walk down to the river he kept trying to hold my hand

You're ok with this, @tworoundsofwaterplease ?!

and while we sat by the river (on a step) he kept putting his hand on my leg.

Again, are you "ok" with this?!!

This is not acceptable in my book. I recognise all these signs:

  • He sounds like he is suffering from mental illness
  • He is at a very low point and regressing into some fantasy land to make himself seem more urgent and appealing
  • He sounds like he is drinking

Ask yourself - he may be interesting, but do you want this energy in your life OP!?!

DoubleTimeStep · 17/06/2025 15:35

You've got yourself a nutter there op.

I'd be busy for a few days hoping he dropped it then cut him off, don't get involved with this fantasist/weirdo.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 17/06/2025 15:38

I'd be thinking that, at some point during the years when you weren't really in touch, he's had some kind of psychotic break and has 'reconstructed his reality' so that the break wasn't mental illness but was induced by the military to make him forget or to confuse him or something. I wouldn't call him a 'nutter', but I would definitely not make any more plans to meet. His version of reality might not be anywhere you want to spend time.

marshmallowpuff · 17/06/2025 15:39

This person is clearly a fantasist, and it may be that when you knew him his more bizarre tendencies were just nascent, or better hidden, and you overlooked any small oddities in his behaviour because they didn’t seem important enough to register. He might be a weird narcissist who’s simply forgotten that you knew his previous ordinary self. Or it might be that he’s developed increasing mental illness, alcoholism or similar as he’s got older. Whatever it is, don’t waste time thinking about it and don’t spend any time interacting with him again, in person or online!

tworoundsofwaterplease · 17/06/2025 15:40

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2025 15:33

Weird thing number 5 was what alarmed me more. On the walk down to the river he kept trying to hold my hand

You're ok with this, @tworoundsofwaterplease ?!

and while we sat by the river (on a step) he kept putting his hand on my leg.

Again, are you "ok" with this?!!

This is not acceptable in my book. I recognise all these signs:

  • He sounds like he is suffering from mental illness
  • He is at a very low point and regressing into some fantasy land to make himself seem more urgent and appealing
  • He sounds like he is drinking

Ask yourself - he may be interesting, but do you want this energy in your life OP!?!

No, I really wasn't okay with it at all! I snatched my hand away from him and moved so that I wasn't sitting as close (although this was difficult when you're sharing a coolbox container on a step)!
I felt much safer once we were in a bar and near other people.
I do think he must be at a low point. He talks very 'posh' and dresses very well (if you like, fedora and suit etc).
I cottoned on to that there must be something going on. He talked about dinner parties he has and I asked if he had them at his house 'Ohh no! Can't at my place, It's disgusting'. So I think he might be living in a bedsit or something.
Sad really-and you might be right about the drinking-I mean yes we were out for a few drinks but maybe he's doing it all the time.

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Jabberwok · 17/06/2025 15:46

I was thinking it was about someone being nice in the past and nasty now.

Clearly, he has some mental problems. He sounds manic and I wonder if he was always a touch so (hence being flamboyant). I would stay well away.

In my experience people don't change but you tend to realise what was driving their behaviour in the past and can accept it and accept who they are or not. Or people who were fun when you were young seem less so now because you have matured.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 17/06/2025 15:48

He sounds a nightmare. Avoid!

I had a work colleague who became a very good friend. We chatted loads, used to go out for meals, cinema etc. we shared the same views on politics, liked the same books, really enjoyed each other's company.

Then I got married and moved away, he split up with his partner and moved house. This was before the internet, we just lost touch

Years later I moved back to the city where we both used to work and bumped into him completely by chance. We were both so excited, swapped numbers and arranged to meet for lunch later that week.

He had turned into a patronizing arrogant bore. He spent the whole time talking about himself, his life, his work, didn't ask me much about mine but kept referring to me as "doll".

We never arranged to meet up again.

riverislanjeans · 17/06/2025 15:52

I don't even know where to start un picking this one 😂 Sorry OP, I know it's not funny but I couldn't help but laugh.

Was he definitely totally normal last time you met? Do you actually know his real name, have you ever seen a driving licence or pay slip from when you used to work together?

I'd definitely ignore and block... if you see him, pretend you don't know him!

Latenightreader · 17/06/2025 15:54

Oh my - I was going to reply with a comment about someone I was friends with at university who was really dull when we met at a wedding a decade later. Nope - completely different scale!

Your friend sounds unwell. I would definitely dodge future meetings.

tworoundsofwaterplease · 17/06/2025 15:55

I ignored his call last night but he rang me from a different number inviting me to this dinner party (near the river, again)on Friday and his friends will be so happy to have me there apparently. I said I couldn't as was working late (which I am) he said to come after and asked me what I'd prefer him to cook etc etc.

I plan on making an excuse. Come to think of it, the woman he talked about at the cocktail bar apparently stood him up the night before a dinner party once-he told me about this and was very upset about it.

I am going to have to block him but it looks as if he'll keep ringing from other numbers.

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tworoundsofwaterplease · 17/06/2025 15:55

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 17/06/2025 15:48

He sounds a nightmare. Avoid!

I had a work colleague who became a very good friend. We chatted loads, used to go out for meals, cinema etc. we shared the same views on politics, liked the same books, really enjoyed each other's company.

Then I got married and moved away, he split up with his partner and moved house. This was before the internet, we just lost touch

Years later I moved back to the city where we both used to work and bumped into him completely by chance. We were both so excited, swapped numbers and arranged to meet for lunch later that week.

He had turned into a patronizing arrogant bore. He spent the whole time talking about himself, his life, his work, didn't ask me much about mine but kept referring to me as "doll".

We never arranged to meet up again.

Oh that's truly disappointing! I wonder if he knows why?

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Fibrous · 17/06/2025 15:58

I know someone like this, OP. They have paranoid schizophrenia. It's really sad. They were really smart but struggled with loneliness and created this whole alternate universe where they were really important. Lost his job, lost his friends as refused to engage with any technology or open the door to anyone.

grizzlyoldbear · 17/06/2025 16:02

Oh god, I hate it when this happens
As a gay woman myself, I've had so many straight male friends who've gone weird like this as they've got older. They either got super right wing, or into conspiracy theories during lockdown. It's so disappointing when you have to bin them off!!

Lins77 · 17/06/2025 16:02

He doesn't sound well, and I can totally understand you not wanting to see him again after all that!

It also does sound as if, despite knowing you are gay, he thinks there is some possible romantic interest here.

Safest not to answer any calls from unknown numbers, if you can, and hope he loses interest.

Courgettezuchinni · 17/06/2025 16:03

Hes a bit Walter Mitty and I wouldn't be going anywhere with him unless it's in public - he's a fantasist! Do you have any mutual friends who could really fill you in on what he's been doing all these years?

LadeOde · 17/06/2025 16:08

How do you get to weird thing no 5 and still not know what to do? you need to get away from this man as fast as your legs can carry you. I'd have left the moment he mentioned his 'boss' which you accurately picked up on doesn't add up as he already told you he owns the place. Why do women give so many 'chances' when all alarm bells are ringing, telling you something is dangerously amiss? by no.5 he was putting his hands on you and you're still wondering about the dinner party invite..are you going to wait until he assaults you before you shut him down?

DontTouchRoach · 17/06/2025 16:15

It sounds as if he's mentally unwell and going through a manic episode or even psychosis.

InterestedDad37 · 17/06/2025 16:19

Erm... Steer clear! 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

Jerrypicker · 17/06/2025 16:26

“Apparently in all the time we'd been fb friends he hadn't realised who I were and now he was so glad to know“

Do you mean he added you to fb and forgot who you were, but then he remembered?

🤔