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Holiday let does not allow dogs…

228 replies

ChristmasCameEarly · 16/06/2025 09:43

…but it states twice on the booking that the owner stays there and does have a dog, that you cannot complain afterwards that there was ‘dog paraphernalia’ in the house?!

Aside from the fact that ‘paraphernalia’ is almost always applied sexually, if there’s clear warnings (including on the booking email!!!!) that the owner has a dog and so the property is not suited to those with dog allergies or sensitivity, surely if you have such allergies or someone you are bringing with you does then you would not book?!

YABU: they have a right to book.
YANBU: they are idiots and didn’t read the note properly.

OP posts:
x2boys · 16/06/2025 13:03

Spidey66 · 16/06/2025 09:49

Paraphernalia makes me think of drugs! Needles, spoons, tin foil, rizlas.

That was my first thought, you always hear drug paraphernalia
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goodmorningtinydog · 16/06/2025 13:03

Pinty · 16/06/2025 12:57

I would assume dog free meant dog free and not expect dog paraphernalia there when I arrived . Saying the owner stays and that she has a dog wouldn't lead me to think that the dog's things would be in the house.
If the house is not suitable for people with animal allergies they should be clearly stated

Is one clean bowl under the stairs “dog things”?

ManyATrueWord · 16/06/2025 13:08

ilovesushi · 16/06/2025 12:18

It is slightly odd that the owners have a dog but don't let it out to other dogs. People with dogs will be less fussy about finding a few dog hairs than non-dog owning people. But they'll have their reasons and each to their own. It does sound weirdly as if a dog might be coming and going during your stay "full, unrestricted access."

Makes perfect sense to me. It's like children. Mine are perfect, yours are occasionally difficult, their's are demon spawn! You can't trust some people with dogs either.

showyourquality · 16/06/2025 13:09

I think it is just your use of dog free that is causing issues as many others have said.
Your let isn’t dog free in any way.

LittleBitofBread · 16/06/2025 13:10

LAMPS1 · 16/06/2025 13:02

@LittleBitofBread, the OP posted the following paragraph and the words in bold, I find, made it even more confusing. I would wonder if the owners dog, not understanding that it didn’t live there that particular week, might wander in from outside …maybe from a house nearby, and that the OP considers the potential guest to be advised that the dog ‘has full, unrestricted access to the property’.

“In the description of the house (where it details rooms and appliances) the first line in it’s own paragraph reads:
Although this property is dog free, pleased be advised the owners have a dog which has full, unrestricted, access to the property.”

Well, it's highly unlikely that she meant 'there are no dogs at the property but our dog is allowed on the property'; that just wouldn't make sense. But if I was looking to book and I was still unclear, I would just message and ask for absolute clarity on it, rather than booking and then complaining about it later.

BIossomtoes · 16/06/2025 13:11

ManyATrueWord · 16/06/2025 13:08

Makes perfect sense to me. It's like children. Mine are perfect, yours are occasionally difficult, their's are demon spawn! You can't trust some people with dogs either.

It makes perfect sense to you that a property advertised as dog free has a resident dog? Free clearly means something different to you.

StrawberryFields4Now · 16/06/2025 13:11

Although this property is dog free, pleased be advised the owners have a dog which has full, unrestricted, access to the property.”

OP- this should say 'Please be advised' (not pleased) unless it's a typo in your posting here.

BIossomtoes · 16/06/2025 13:14

StrawberryFields4Now · 16/06/2025 13:11

Although this property is dog free, pleased be advised the owners have a dog which has full, unrestricted, access to the property.”

OP- this should say 'Please be advised' (not pleased) unless it's a typo in your posting here.

No, it shouldn’t say it’s dog free when it isn’t. This is turning into Schrödinger's dog!

ThePoshUns · 16/06/2025 13:14

And your point is? !

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 16/06/2025 13:15

Get someone else to rewrite your property description. You don't communicate well and misunderstand words/phrases like "dog free" and "paraphernalia."

ManyATrueWord · 16/06/2025 13:20

BIossomtoes · 16/06/2025 13:11

It makes perfect sense to you that a property advertised as dog free has a resident dog? Free clearly means something different to you.

Edited

But it isn't advertised as dog free, it is advertised as no pets allowed.

BIossomtoes · 16/06/2025 13:21

ManyATrueWord · 16/06/2025 13:20

But it isn't advertised as dog free, it is advertised as no pets allowed.

Try RTFT.

HighHeelsOnCobblestones · 16/06/2025 13:21

If I’m buying food labelled as free from my food allergen I expect it to actually be free from the allergen and safe for me to eat it.

DS2 has a severe dog allergy. Saying the property is “dog free” sounds like dogs are never there and it’s safe for him.

Your advert needs to be worded the other way around to say something like…

This property is NOT dog free. Whilst we don’t accept guests with dogs, the owners have a dog which stays in the property.

BellissimoGecko · 16/06/2025 13:24

That’s weird. I usually book dog-free properties so I would not be happy to book one to find that a dog is in there regularly 🤷🏼‍♀️

Hellohelga · 16/06/2025 13:27

I run a dog friendly Airbnb. I’d say it’s your responsibility to be very clear in your communication because people don’t always read the information properly. The dog free listing could easily be misconstrued. Id put the information about your own dog visiting the house IN CAPITALS IN THE FIRST LINE OF THE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION so it jumps out. I’d also follow up each booking with an email to check guests are aware, and get a response from them confirming that. You can call them idiots but you are the one to suffer from a bad review. In your position I’d now change my listing to be clearer but also ask the agency to remove the review on the basis of it being unfair.

Slatterndisgrace · 16/06/2025 13:27

ChristmasCameEarly · 16/06/2025 10:01

I’ve only ever heard it in a sexual sense. But maybe I am mistaken! Happy to be corrected and for the mumsnet masses to assume I am a pervert.

They found a dog bowl in the cupboard under the stairs. Dog is not Harry Potter (just on the off chance anyone thinks I keep her under the stairs). House was vigorously cleaned (by the company I use to manage it). They had no complaints about the houses cleanliness, only the fact I had a dog!

What is your dog called and why not Harry Potter? I like that name.

housethatbuiltme · 16/06/2025 13:28

Yeah I would think drugs before sex as its usually used legally to describe things used to take an illicit substances even if the substance wasn't found.

Paraphernalia really just means 'equipment relating to' though... a saddle would probably be horse paraphernalia, a ball of yarn might be knitting paraphernalia, a tire could be car paraphernalia etc...

Slatterndisgrace · 16/06/2025 13:29

housethatbuiltme · 16/06/2025 13:28

Yeah I would think drugs before sex as its usually used legally to describe things used to take an illicit substances even if the substance wasn't found.

Paraphernalia really just means 'equipment relating to' though... a saddle would probably be horse paraphernalia, a ball of yarn might be knitting paraphernalia, a tire could be car paraphernalia etc...

Could be read as para for nailing ya, if you had a particularly sexual bent….

Pollqueen · 16/06/2025 13:30

Sosigsandwich · 16/06/2025 09:48

Why is paraphernalia sexual?!

This. That's a new one!

Jollyhockeystickss · 16/06/2025 13:34

Its paraphilia which is sexual!!

Beeinalily · 16/06/2025 13:35

They were really ambiguous with the notice about their dog and dog-free, I wouldn't have understood. Could you dispute the 2/10, OP? However, paraphernalia means stuff in a laboratory (or I could have been mislead by a teacher in my youth!)

KickHimInTheCrotch · 16/06/2025 13:41

I've said YABU because you don't know what paraphernalia means.

FuckityFux · 16/06/2025 13:52

Clearly, you deserve 2/10 for having such a poorly worded and misleading advert.

This isn’t about them finding a dog bowl but the deliberate deception you’ve employed by referring to the property as ‘dog free’. If you allow your own dog into the property, then it obviously isn’t ‘dog free’.

Presumably the listings allow someone to search for ‘dog free’ accommodation?

You need to accept that you have made a mistake (genuine or otherwise) and that your advert needs changing to accurately reflect the situation, otherwise more people are likely to complain.

Rightsraptor · 16/06/2025 14:00

Are you sure you aren't confusing paraphernalia with paraphilia, OP?

saltinesandcoffeecups · 16/06/2025 14:00

ChristmasCameEarly · 16/06/2025 11:39

@StrawberryFields4Now I’m annoyed they felt it necessary to leave a 2/10 review for a cleaned dog bowl under the stairs, when they had three warnings that the owners had dogs. Their entire review praised the cottage, including how clean it was and how good the appliances were etc. Then they referenced ‘dog paraphernalia’ and gave me 2/10!

I think most people would be annoyed by that.

Can you respond to the review? If so I’d let it be a warning for other people booking. Obviously a professional response not a grumpy or unhinged one.

“We’re sorry for the confusion. As we state in the description and the check in comments, we don’t allow doggie guests but we do have a resident dog who stays in the property on occasion (which is why you found a dog bowl under the stairs). We clean thoroughly before new guests check in however we understand that this property may not be appropriate for those with allergies which is why we take great care to make it clear in the listing that there is a dog on premises on occasion. ”

I don’t use airB&B or private rentals but when I look at hotel/resort reviews I generally look at the lowest ones first. If they are ridiculous (like I would consider this one) then I figure it’s a good place.

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