Holiday let does not allow dogs…

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…but it states twice on the booking that the owner stays there and does have a dog, that you cannot complain afterwards that there was ‘dog paraphernalia’ in the house?!

Aside from the fact that ‘paraphernalia’ is almost always applied sexually, if there’s clear warnings (including on the booking email!!!!) that the owner has a dog and so the property is not suited to those with dog allergies or sensitivity, surely if you have such allergies or someone you are bringing with you does then you would not book?!

YABU: they have a right to book.
YANBU: they are idiots and didn’t read the note properly.

Not really.

Many people have neither dogs nor allergies.

Seems fair enough to me.

The owner is warning people with dog allergies (maybe they have had someone complain in the past), yet clearly states that they don't want other peoples dogs.

That's fair enough to me, as dogs vary pretty widely in terms of their behaviour.

Some you will hardly notice and others will wreck the place. And all owners will claim their dog is lovely and harmless even while they are simultaneously pissing on a sofa and eating it at the same time.

I think Dog Free Property meaning - you can't bring your dogs but that doesn't mean that a dog doesn't stay here - is confusing, sorry. Someone with a dog allergy could easily have seen 'dog free property' and assumed that that meant it was safe for them to book with their allergies.

I'm goingto an Art class tonight that says it has lots of choice of paints and other art and craft paraphenalia - I hope I'm not stumbling into some coded swingers sex dungeon!

Yes, "dog free" is really confusing the issue. It implies that no dogs have ever set foot in the place. As for paraphernalia, it simply means a collection of objects or accessories relating to a particular activity or hobby. It is often used in association with drugs but I've never, ever heard it used in a sexual context.

You need to reword it. It's not a dog free house, so it shouldn't say that anywhere in the description. You have to assume anyone reading your ad is an idiot and leave no room for confusion.

Dogs can be destructive so they don't want unknown dogs potentially scratching or chewing their house.

We don't allow dogs either but if people contact me and explain they are well behaved dogs and they wont let them do X,Y and Z then we usually say yes. Contact them ask.

ETA - Oh I totally got the wrong end of the stick - I thought you wanted to book with dog paraphernalia filled property but now I think it's your house. Sorry, I'm confused.

Maybe the OP is also confusing dogs with dogging? I imagine that might involve paraphernalia of some description 🤔

The only time I read about 'paraphernalia' it's to do with drugs.
Maybe she meant 'drug paraphernalia', not 'dog'? 😂

As as a host I understand your frustration.

Teksquad later tonight

Not really. It’s pretty typical to assume animals are not allowed in rentals, holidays lets etc. It’s the exception rather than the norm. Conversely, it’s typical that if you OWN a property you can have pets if you want.

That said. I do agree it needs to be made clearer as a PP suggested.

@teksquad uh oh! Hope you take some pepper spray with you…

Dog free = dogs are not there and have not been there

No pets allowed due to owners using it with their own dog = just owners dog allowed and is not an allergy friendly place for those inclined to a dog allergy

I live in a holiday area and several friends have both holiday lets and dogs, but don't allow visitors to bring dogs. If there is a resident dog there could easily be a problem with visiting dogs, I don't think that's necessarily inconsistent.

Baffled at paraphernalia having sexual connotations though!

The wording is confusing.

Although this property is dog free, pleased be advised the owners have a dog which has full, unrestricted, access to the property.

To me, “dog free” means dogs aren’t allowed in the property at all so I would interpret your dog having “full, unrestricted, access to the property” as meaning you live nearby and sometimes your dog goes into the property rather than you stay there with the dog because it is nonsensical to say the property is dog free if you stay there with a dog 🤷‍♀️ A dog being there for a few minutes at a time is very different from a dog staying there.

You could make it a lot clearer eg
Although this property does not permit guests to bring pets, pleased be advised the owners have a dog that stays with them when they use the property.

Some people DO love to complain. They absolutely LOVE it.

Snap. In fact I can’t quite bring to mind what the association with sex is. Op are you getting it mixed up with proclivities?

I have a dog allergy. The dog doesn't have to be anywhere near me for me to react. An example is my DH gave a lift to a dog owner recently. That same evening we both travelled in the car to go somewhere & within minutes my eyes were swollen in the inside corners, itchy red & streaming. You made it clear you own & dog & the property is not suitable for those with allergies. This guest had no right to complain.

Although this property is dog free, pleased be advised the owners have a dog which has full, unrestricted, access to the property.

That is not a dog free property then.

It's confusing.
Dog free should mean no dogs there, no traces of dogs there.

Is the owner with the dog there in the same time? Or is the owner using it between rentals with their dogs? And the warning is there because of superficial cleaning leaving dog stuff and hair everywhere, or to warn/get rid of liability about allergies?

Although this property is dog free, pleased be advised the owners have a dog which has full, unrestricted, access to the property.

The wording of that is terrible, and really confusing.

I understand what it means now, but only because I have the backgound context from your posts. If I were booking your place I'd be left unsure about whether there was, or wasn't a dog on the property.

Aside from the fact that ‘paraphernalia’ is almost always applied sexually,

Paraphernalia means a collection of objects for a purpose, some not very necessary.

I have never ever heard it in a sexual context and I'm very well -read and literate.

I guess it depends on what YOU read! Handcuffs, bondage, toys?😂

Going back to your original question, the owner has a right to live there with a dog and also refuse to allow guests' dogs who may not be house trained. It's not just about allergies, but about dogs chewing furniture, being allowed on beds etc, which their dog may not do.

Have seen the update. I think it’s a bit odd, that it isn’t dog friendly but it’s your house, your rules. If anyone doesn’t like dogs, don’t book it. I’d probably have one photo of the dog and his bowl one of the shots 🤣 in the listing.

Do people realise that property owners on a booking site can only say Dogs allowed or No Dogs, but there isn't an option for "dogs never enter this property"?

Plus even dog free holiday cottages have to accept service animals.