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To be pissed off an MLM stall turned up at toddler group this morning?

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diditallgook · 11/06/2025 12:16

Went to our usual Wednesday group only to find someone standing behind a table with a load of skincare products. It was really awkward and made people feel obliged to buy something (I didn’t.)

I don’t normally sweat the small stuff but I am wondering if I should mention something - but then I’ll look like a pain, won’t I?

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Needmorelego · 11/06/2025 17:31

Iiquidsnake · 11/06/2025 17:18

Ugh, no — you’re totally right to be annoyed. Toddler group is for juice, snacks, and trying to have half a conversation while stopping your kid from eating Play-Doh, not being cornered into a sales pitch. MLMs are the worst — one minute it’s “hi hun,” next minute you’re being guilt-tripped into a £30 face scrub. Bet it was some bloke’s idea to let them in too — probably thought “what harm can it do?” while never having set foot in a toddler group in his life.

How do you get guilt tripped?
"Sorry can't buy today" or
"Sorry not my thing".
That's all you have to say.
If you've spent 30quid on something you didn't want then that's on you.

tammienorrie · 11/06/2025 17:36

Assume she is told how many people a month to message and what sort of tone to use to get a response.

I think that's exactly how it works. Everyone you know is a prospective recruit into the pyramid - so you get random facebook messages from people you were at school with 30 years ago. They are also told that no doesn't actually mean no, it means "not at the moment" so will be back in a few weeks.

Sidebeforeself · 11/06/2025 17:36

JemimaPiddlepot · 11/06/2025 15:55

OP wasn’t rude at all. You haven’t read her post properly.

And you haven’t read my other post properly

BadSkiingMum · 11/06/2025 17:54

The only one that is remotely suitable for a toddler group is probably Usborne. I can’t get too exercised about parents of preschool children being offered the chance to buy books. If they want to buy them cheaper elsewhere, then that’s fine too.

Confusedegg · 11/06/2025 18:02

Literally none of it is true about MLM. My travel lady (selling zero travel) claims she is eating at posh places and drinking cocktails on Mondays while I am at work in my normal boring job and having ‘meetings’ all day. They all fake it till they make it it’s just recruitment

Aprilrainagainagain · 11/06/2025 18:03

They exploit vulnerable people, lie and cost people thousands.

I hate them.

Helpmeplease2025 · 11/06/2025 18:06

Aprilrainagainagain · 11/06/2025 18:03

They exploit vulnerable people, lie and cost people thousands.

I hate them.

Same. And I LOATHE the emotional blackmail selling tactics they get their brainwashed to use; I’m just a mum trying to make a better life for my kids/ this allows me to be around for my kids after school etc

I don’t want to buy shite with my hard-earned wages, so you can be around for your kids, not working!

TartanMammy · 11/06/2025 18:18

I agree with you op, and often these groups are used to rope mum's into the 'business' too. Al it takes is for someone to mention feeling bad/sad/anxious about returning to work and they're all like 'oh come and join me.' it's exploitative, usually the women doing the selling are being exploited too, it's sickening how it's still allowed as business model.

Needmorelego · 11/06/2025 18:18

I must live in a parallel universe because I've never been made to feel bad because I don't want to buy anything from any of these sellers.
Or be persuaded to join up to be a seller myself.
Never once has it happened.

Zwellers · 11/06/2025 19:20

Iiquidsnake mumsnet bingo win. No matter what the issue it must be man's fault. I mean seriously.

MoistVonL · 11/06/2025 19:50

Needmorelego · 11/06/2025 18:18

I must live in a parallel universe because I've never been made to feel bad because I don't want to buy anything from any of these sellers.
Or be persuaded to join up to be a seller myself.
Never once has it happened.

Edited

I agree - I liked the books and cards (Usborne and Phoenix I think) because I bought those anyway.

All the stuff I didn’t fancy? Never felt remotely obliged to buy. I’ve been through years of seeing them but I was never once talked to about becoming a rep.

DiscoBob · 11/06/2025 20:15

LivingDeadGirlUK · 11/06/2025 13:31

I disagree, its really relevant its an MLM, they prey on new mothers with the 'work you own hours and be there for your kids' claims tapping directly into the mum guilt. Being at a toddler group is incredibly inappropriate. Once someone has bought something they then have an in to pitch the 'business opportunity' its never just about selling some skincare.

If someone's short of money then last thing they need us being dragged into a massive scam, right?! How can people not realise MLM is predatory bullshit?

tammienorrie · 11/06/2025 20:40

DiscoBob · 11/06/2025 20:15

If someone's short of money then last thing they need us being dragged into a massive scam, right?! How can people not realise MLM is predatory bullshit?

Because when you're being asked to join by Donna from the zumba class, Millie from dance class's mum or Sarah whose son goes to football with yours, you have no reason to disbelieve their lies about making £££ and sacking the boss.

DiscoBob · 11/06/2025 20:44

tammienorrie · 11/06/2025 20:40

Because when you're being asked to join by Donna from the zumba class, Millie from dance class's mum or Sarah whose son goes to football with yours, you have no reason to disbelieve their lies about making £££ and sacking the boss.

That's the problem isn't it. They lie through their teeth claiming they're making bank when they're just getting into vast quantities of debt.

If someone wanted to start their own business, it's pretty much the antithesis of what they should be doing with their money and time.

I want to have pity for them as they're being scammed. But they are actively scamming other people and that's the whole 'business model'. Absolute load of fucking cobblers, isn't it?

StaySpicy · 11/06/2025 20:46

Definitely say something, @diditallgook . It's not okay to make parents feel uncomfortable at these groups; they exist to give the toddlers socialisation and the parents some company. Not to try and avoid a hun.

nopenotplaying · 11/06/2025 20:49

Usbourne books at ours, drives me mad. Far more expensive than at Sainsbury’s too

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/06/2025 22:37

My nursery had a pamper evening from temple spa where she poured bubbly then upsold everyone- I promised myself I wouldn't buy that evening and stuck to it, only the poor nursery workers made purchases!

WinSomeandLoseSome · 11/06/2025 23:10

diditallgook · 11/06/2025 12:36

Asking curiously and politely rather than aggressively and belligerently: does it matter? Why?

@IrememberAmway i am sorry to hear that. I think that’s my concern really, it is sort of condoned through its presence and it shouldn’t be.

Blimey. Rude, much.

BigBoysDontCry · 12/06/2025 09:32

Definitely unreasonable. I'm guessing it's Tropic as a woman on our estate does it and peddles about how it's basically charity as the company does so many good things around the world. So when you shell out £50 for some suncream you are helping women and children in the 3rd world.

RampantIvy · 12/06/2025 12:42

While I dislike the concept of MLM and the way vulnerable women are exploited (it's nearly always women) some of them actually sell decent products.

Our energy supplier is Utility Warehouse. We signed up with them years ago before they became an MLM. We have solar panels and our energy bills are very low because they gave us a really good feed in tariff rate. So, as a product I rate them even if they are an MLM. I quite like Tropic and Temple Spa products as well.

If I was at a toddler group and someone selling something I didn't want was there I would just say "no thanks" and not give it a second thought, regardless if it was a charity or an MLM (although if it was a charity I would probably give them a donation).

diditallgook · 12/06/2025 12:53

WinSomeandLoseSome · 11/06/2025 23:10

Blimey. Rude, much.

It’s rude to ask someone something politely and making it clear (through the word ‘not’) that it isn’t to be read aggressively - ok then.

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YellowCamperVan · 12/06/2025 17:56

mumboyof1 · 11/06/2025 15:02

MLM’s are horribly exploitative. My DHs cousin is in one (and apparently very high up in the pyramid 🙄), as soon as I had my baby and was on maternity leave she was on me to sign up and get involved. Was being sold the same old trope other pp have mentioned here ‘work your own hours’ ‘extra income for baby and you’. I did my own research, read through forums and watched videos about how trapped people have gotten by spending their own money on shite they can't flog.

I have an old school friend who's trapped in these schemes, every time I look on Facebook she's posting about a new one. The latest venture is a travel business. I feel sorry for her but don't understand how she keeps getting duped into doing them!

They all pretend to be high up the pyramid lol.

MUMchester23 · 17/07/2025 22:14

zingally · 11/06/2025 16:31

Oooh! What MLM was it?! I'm fascinated by them, purely because they're so utterly batshit.

An old work colleague of mine belongs to one... Farmasi it's called. Some Italian brand that literally no one has ever heard of. Every Single Post of hers on FB is some shocking promotion of some random product. Harping on like it's God's own nectar, and the most amazing products ever to exist.
But before this it was Body Shop, which, strangely was ALSO the best thing ever... Until they closed down their MLM to much controversy.

They are Turkish and tbh their products are really good. I bought a few bits & was impressed. I’m looking at the business opportunity now as their prices are less that the ‘hyped’ brands I was using & actually better. 🥰

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