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To ask what was better and what was worse 30 years ago?

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PansyPotter84 · 05/06/2025 18:24

I’m 41 so my views may be tainted by my age…

Worse 30 years ago:

  • Casual racism, sexism and homophobia.
  • Cars (emissions nightmare and leaded petrol).

Better 30 years ago:

  • Cadbury’s Chocolate (not full of Palm Oil Sludge).
  • Disposable Nappies. The ones my little sister had when I was a nipper were thick and robust unlike the flimsy leaky paper things that my DC had.
OP posts:
SparklingMetre · 05/06/2025 19:13

Worse 30 years ago
-styling products for curly hair and ability to get a decent curly haircut.
-family photos (no ability to check in the moment)

better 30 years ago
-back garden sizes, new builds all see to have ting gardens.
-shopping in town centres and being able to get a job there as a teen.

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 19:17

PansyPotter84 · 05/06/2025 18:24

I’m 41 so my views may be tainted by my age…

Worse 30 years ago:

  • Casual racism, sexism and homophobia.
  • Cars (emissions nightmare and leaded petrol).

Better 30 years ago:

  • Cadbury’s Chocolate (not full of Palm Oil Sludge).
  • Disposable Nappies. The ones my little sister had when I was a nipper were thick and robust unlike the flimsy leaky paper things that my DC had.

I love this post. There is so much that I could say.

OK, so worse 30 years ago:
Intellect: if someone wanted to know something, they'd have to go to a library, hope that they had the book they needed and sift through it to find the page that told them the information they need. Today, I have a computer that can find what I need in less than 30 seconds. I feel more educated and enriched in the tapestry of life as a result of the internet. As someone who also doesn't enjoy conventional reading, my vocabulary has also improved from connecting with people of varying levels of intellect all over the world.

Food Choice: I'm a vegetarian and can easily find tofu etc in the supermarket these days. 30 years ago, there was just a small section of the frozen aisle that did bean burgers, crisp bakes or macaroni cheese. If you were vegan, you were limited to lentils and Beanfeast (I do wish Beanfeast was still available, it was lush). Nowadays, you can even get replica mince that binds the same way beef does, and make burgers, meatballs etc with it, unheard of 30 years ago.

Entertainment: There was only 4 channels to watch on television, most of which wound down at around 11pm. If you weren't a fan of Bruce Forsyth, Anthea Turner, Dale Winton & Co, it was hard luck.

Household Chores: 30 years ago, dishwashers weren't common, so every dish and piece of cutlery had to be washed by hand. When I was a child, laundry had to be dried on some sort of raft thing that we pulled up towards the ceiling using rope and hoped that the air in the room was warm enough to dry it.

Cancer Treatment: It's not perfect now and I do still think that the powers that be are deliberately holding back possible cures to extort more financial gain but back in the 1990s, if you got cancer, it was pretty much a death sentence. Occasionally, if caught early, it could be removed with surgery and there was an archaic form of chemotherapy that may prevent life for 5 months or so (but make you unbearably ill at the same time) but it was mostly a hopeless diagnosis. Treatment in this day and age now helps more people survive cancer than die from it and also helps people to live with incurable cancer and actually not die from it, as well as living a happy and fulfilled life.

What was Better 30 years ago?
The economy: There was less austerity in Parliament and the world as a whole had more funds. It was easier to get on to the housing market, my parents bought my family home on modest incomes for less than £60,000 and my mother could afford to resign from work to be a homemaker. My partner and I, though we do enjoy extravagances unashamedly, we are both working despite raising our children and being able to afford the life we've become accustomed to whilst being a mother, wife and homemaker would be great.

Illegal Migration Control: We didn't place illegal migrants in nice hotels back then. Our borders were secure. Our public services weren't straining under the pressure of having so many people on such a small island (I'm based in Britain).

A Sense Of Community: This is the antithesis to my point about the brilliance of technology. Back in 1995, there was no social media, no mobile phones, computers were something that only offices had and E-mail was un-heard of. People went out and socialised more in person than they do now. This brought a greater feeling of togetherness. When I was growing up, there were numerous social clubs, bowling societies, women's clubs, senior citizen's clubs and people took the time and effort to call around at your house to visit you in the flesh. Nowadays, it seems some family/friends just communicate by occasionally commenting on a Facebook post. In one way the internet connects people, it also divides them.

Values and respect: In 1995, if you told them that 30 years from now, bank managers would be turning up to work in jeans, polo shirts and trainers, they'd have said you were barking mad. Unfortunately, I see a lot of people in professional settings who aren't dressed appropriately and it shows a lack of respect for the role that they are doing, the people whom they are serving and the business they work for. Dress standards as a whole have decreased alarmingly. If you watch 1990s sitcom, One Foot In The Grave, you'll notice that Victor and Margaret always dressed respectfully, despite being mostly retired. People only wore tracksuits for exercising. No self-respecting restaurant would allow a gentleman to dine without a tie and dinner jacket and a lady to dine without wearing a smart (knee length or longer) dress. If you go in to a nice restaurant these days, you'll see they let practically anyone in. Miller & Carter is the one chain that still upholds standards of decency in dress and I commend them for it. We also addressed people with respect in the 1990s. I was brought up to refer to my neighbours as Mr & Mrs so and so, never on first name terms. If you look back at One Foot In The Grave, you'll notice that Victor always calls Mrs Warboys as Mrs Warboys, never Jean, despite having known her for many years and her being a good chum of his wife.

Freedom: We wasn't in such a nanny state. Freedom of speech meant just that, no exceptions. No one had a right not to be offended. We didn't need warning notices to tell us that a packet of cashews "may contain nuts" because we used common sense. We took accountability for our own safety. We didn't have the desire to ban everything: disposable carry bags, smoking etc. We had bars, museums, galleries and restaurants that catered for those who chose to be around smoke and those who chose not to. We didn't have the Government breathing down our neck telling us what was bad for us.

High Streets: High Streets used to be bustling in the 1990s, with long-forgotten traders such as Littlewood's, Ethel Austin, British Home Stores and various independents. Beggars and unsavoury people had less gall, and there were less of them. It used to be possible to walk down the High Street without some drug addict accosting you for your money. High Streets used to be floral, bright and cheerful spaces and you'd never be more than a stone's throw away from a cheerful street cleaner or amenities such as public conveniences, telephone boxes or ATMs.

Self Preservation: Tattoos and other unsightly body customisation was deeply frowned upon in the 1990s and anyone in a customer facing role was required to keep them hidden out of sight. People respected their natural beauty and didn't obliterate it with dodgy fillers from some back street surgeon in Belgium or "Turkey teeth", breast implants, dying hair hideous colours such as blue or bright green and most people only tanned naturally, on holiday. We accepted and loved the bodies that God gave us and didn't all have to conform to look a certain way, poles apart from the society we live in today.

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 19:40

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 19:17

I love this post. There is so much that I could say.

OK, so worse 30 years ago:
Intellect: if someone wanted to know something, they'd have to go to a library, hope that they had the book they needed and sift through it to find the page that told them the information they need. Today, I have a computer that can find what I need in less than 30 seconds. I feel more educated and enriched in the tapestry of life as a result of the internet. As someone who also doesn't enjoy conventional reading, my vocabulary has also improved from connecting with people of varying levels of intellect all over the world.

Food Choice: I'm a vegetarian and can easily find tofu etc in the supermarket these days. 30 years ago, there was just a small section of the frozen aisle that did bean burgers, crisp bakes or macaroni cheese. If you were vegan, you were limited to lentils and Beanfeast (I do wish Beanfeast was still available, it was lush). Nowadays, you can even get replica mince that binds the same way beef does, and make burgers, meatballs etc with it, unheard of 30 years ago.

Entertainment: There was only 4 channels to watch on television, most of which wound down at around 11pm. If you weren't a fan of Bruce Forsyth, Anthea Turner, Dale Winton & Co, it was hard luck.

Household Chores: 30 years ago, dishwashers weren't common, so every dish and piece of cutlery had to be washed by hand. When I was a child, laundry had to be dried on some sort of raft thing that we pulled up towards the ceiling using rope and hoped that the air in the room was warm enough to dry it.

Cancer Treatment: It's not perfect now and I do still think that the powers that be are deliberately holding back possible cures to extort more financial gain but back in the 1990s, if you got cancer, it was pretty much a death sentence. Occasionally, if caught early, it could be removed with surgery and there was an archaic form of chemotherapy that may prevent life for 5 months or so (but make you unbearably ill at the same time) but it was mostly a hopeless diagnosis. Treatment in this day and age now helps more people survive cancer than die from it and also helps people to live with incurable cancer and actually not die from it, as well as living a happy and fulfilled life.

What was Better 30 years ago?
The economy: There was less austerity in Parliament and the world as a whole had more funds. It was easier to get on to the housing market, my parents bought my family home on modest incomes for less than £60,000 and my mother could afford to resign from work to be a homemaker. My partner and I, though we do enjoy extravagances unashamedly, we are both working despite raising our children and being able to afford the life we've become accustomed to whilst being a mother, wife and homemaker would be great.

Illegal Migration Control: We didn't place illegal migrants in nice hotels back then. Our borders were secure. Our public services weren't straining under the pressure of having so many people on such a small island (I'm based in Britain).

A Sense Of Community: This is the antithesis to my point about the brilliance of technology. Back in 1995, there was no social media, no mobile phones, computers were something that only offices had and E-mail was un-heard of. People went out and socialised more in person than they do now. This brought a greater feeling of togetherness. When I was growing up, there were numerous social clubs, bowling societies, women's clubs, senior citizen's clubs and people took the time and effort to call around at your house to visit you in the flesh. Nowadays, it seems some family/friends just communicate by occasionally commenting on a Facebook post. In one way the internet connects people, it also divides them.

Values and respect: In 1995, if you told them that 30 years from now, bank managers would be turning up to work in jeans, polo shirts and trainers, they'd have said you were barking mad. Unfortunately, I see a lot of people in professional settings who aren't dressed appropriately and it shows a lack of respect for the role that they are doing, the people whom they are serving and the business they work for. Dress standards as a whole have decreased alarmingly. If you watch 1990s sitcom, One Foot In The Grave, you'll notice that Victor and Margaret always dressed respectfully, despite being mostly retired. People only wore tracksuits for exercising. No self-respecting restaurant would allow a gentleman to dine without a tie and dinner jacket and a lady to dine without wearing a smart (knee length or longer) dress. If you go in to a nice restaurant these days, you'll see they let practically anyone in. Miller & Carter is the one chain that still upholds standards of decency in dress and I commend them for it. We also addressed people with respect in the 1990s. I was brought up to refer to my neighbours as Mr & Mrs so and so, never on first name terms. If you look back at One Foot In The Grave, you'll notice that Victor always calls Mrs Warboys as Mrs Warboys, never Jean, despite having known her for many years and her being a good chum of his wife.

Freedom: We wasn't in such a nanny state. Freedom of speech meant just that, no exceptions. No one had a right not to be offended. We didn't need warning notices to tell us that a packet of cashews "may contain nuts" because we used common sense. We took accountability for our own safety. We didn't have the desire to ban everything: disposable carry bags, smoking etc. We had bars, museums, galleries and restaurants that catered for those who chose to be around smoke and those who chose not to. We didn't have the Government breathing down our neck telling us what was bad for us.

High Streets: High Streets used to be bustling in the 1990s, with long-forgotten traders such as Littlewood's, Ethel Austin, British Home Stores and various independents. Beggars and unsavoury people had less gall, and there were less of them. It used to be possible to walk down the High Street without some drug addict accosting you for your money. High Streets used to be floral, bright and cheerful spaces and you'd never be more than a stone's throw away from a cheerful street cleaner or amenities such as public conveniences, telephone boxes or ATMs.

Self Preservation: Tattoos and other unsightly body customisation was deeply frowned upon in the 1990s and anyone in a customer facing role was required to keep them hidden out of sight. People respected their natural beauty and didn't obliterate it with dodgy fillers from some back street surgeon in Belgium or "Turkey teeth", breast implants, dying hair hideous colours such as blue or bright green and most people only tanned naturally, on holiday. We accepted and loved the bodies that God gave us and didn't all have to conform to look a certain way, poles apart from the society we live in today.

Where on earth were you living!? I was around in the 90s and don't recognise any of that rose-tinted story 😆

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 19:52

We had five channels, not four, we also had access to Sky TV and Telewest (cable/digital, a rival to Sky). Tattoos were commonplace and very mainstream by the mid-90s. As for "natural beauty"... We had Botox, teeth whitening, hair straighteners, sun beds, fake tan, etc. piercings were just as mainstream as tattoos, breathing implants existed and so did rhinoplasty, you could get your child's ears pinned back on the NHS. "Accepted and loved the bodies God gave us"? Yeah. Right. Fad diets were huge, as was disordered eating and starving yourself - Special K diet, baby food diet, cabbage soup diet, Atkins, blood type diet, size 8 as an aspiration, then 6, then zero. Awareness of the dangers of second-hand smoke was a thing in the 90s too, especially after the death of Roy Castle was attributed to the effects of second-hand smoke.

Used commonsense and took accountability for your own safety? Mate, your generation needed a cartoon cat on the telly to tell them not climb pylons or set fire to shit with their mum's matches.

helpfulperson · 05/06/2025 19:58

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 19:40

Where on earth were you living!? I was around in the 90s and don't recognise any of that rose-tinted story 😆

Particularly the house buying. Many house owners were in negative equity in the nineties and couldn't move because they couldn't get enough for their house to pay off what they owed.

Dramatic · 05/06/2025 19:59

@BigFatBully I'd argue that not having to dress to the nines for normal everyday stuff is better than being under all that pressure to constantly "look the part"

I also don't recognise half the things you're saying about the 90s, maybe the 70s.

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 20:05

Better since the 90s

  • smoking ban. No more stink of cigarettes wafting over from the smoking area or down from the top deck of the bus, and staff are protected from breathing in other people's smoke.
  • homophobia and LGB representation. In sixth form in the 90s and it was a suspension-level offence to be openly gay due to section 28 policies as school couldn't be seen to be promoting or condoning it. Started my teacher training in 1999 and, as a cohort, we were explicitly told that if anyone was "that was inclined" they should not make schools/employers aware.
  • casual racism, sexism, homophobia, etc especially on TV. Most 90s sitcoms have not aged well due to the use of stereotypes based on these.
  • safeguarding. Approaches now are more joined up and, while it's not perfect, it's far superior to what we had in the 90s where abuse would frequently fly under the radar or be written of as "strict" parenting.
  • recognition of neurodiversity as well as other disabilities and steps taken towards inclusion. Again, it's not perfect and is a work in progress but it is better than it was. So many children would be written off as 'naughty' and punished rather than supported, girls were more or less ignored entirely as autism and ADHD were considered to be a boy thing. In terms of disability in general, there were very few low-rider buses, very basic access arrangements, lots of stigma and prejudice.

Worse since the 90s

  • Harder to 'switch off' as phones and WiFi means you're always connected unless you consciously unplug. A lot of employers take advantage of this with emails, etc out of hours so work-life balance suffers
  • more cars on the roads
  • oneupmanship fueled by social media and going OTT in the name of getting likes
MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 20:06

Also, we did have the internet in the 90s.

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 20:09

Dramatic · 05/06/2025 19:59

@BigFatBully I'd argue that not having to dress to the nines for normal everyday stuff is better than being under all that pressure to constantly "look the part"

I also don't recognise half the things you're saying about the 90s, maybe the 70s.

I don't want to dox myself but in the area I live, since the 1990s, we've seen closures of a sailing club, a knitting group held at the local hall which closed down, several social clubs, several libraries and playgroups.

I knew all of my neighbours to say hello to. There are people on my street today that I've never even met, as they only ever leave their house in the car and their free time is taken up on the world wide web, hypocritical I know, as I'm typing on a webpage but it does sit as an example.

cherish123 · 05/06/2025 20:37

Better 30 years ago - shops, pubs, tv, social interaction, parenting, behaviour of adults and children, politicians, the economy, no Internet, people were slimmer.

Better now - can shop faster (internet), attempts at lowering pollution, medical advances, prejudice is unacceptable, less smoking

SpottedDonkey · 05/06/2025 20:52

Worse
Smoking in buildings & on public transport was still widespread and utterly disgusting.
Cars used more fuel, created more pollution, were much less safe and much easier to steal.
Sexism, racism & homophobia were still serious social issues.
Home entertainment was still in the dark ages. No big flatscreen TVs, far fewer, channels, no Netflix or streaming etc etc.
The Tories were still in government.
Smartphones had not been invented.

Better
The economy was much stronger.
Housing was far more affordable.
The NHS was better than today, but under the Tory government it was crap. The New Labour government massively improved it, but that came later.
Britain was a much more cohesive, less divided society. Decades of mass immigration changed that, of course.

OCDmama · 05/06/2025 20:52

@BigFatBully I'm guessing you're an avid daily mail reader.

People didn't have the choice to escape cigarettes, they were everywhere. When I sat people in a restaurant it was pretty pointless asking if they wanted smoking or nonsmoking, a low level planter wasn't going to magically stop the fumes. I've had two family friends die of smoking related lung cancer who never smoked. Your 'freedoms' (as so many) cost other people. What was so 'respectful' about that?

So much of your list is absolute bullshit. Immigrants getting nice hotels? I've worked with migrants and asylum seekers living in hotels. You'd refuse to stay a single night in those places.

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 21:04

OCDmama · 05/06/2025 20:52

@BigFatBully I'm guessing you're an avid daily mail reader.

People didn't have the choice to escape cigarettes, they were everywhere. When I sat people in a restaurant it was pretty pointless asking if they wanted smoking or nonsmoking, a low level planter wasn't going to magically stop the fumes. I've had two family friends die of smoking related lung cancer who never smoked. Your 'freedoms' (as so many) cost other people. What was so 'respectful' about that?

So much of your list is absolute bullshit. Immigrants getting nice hotels? I've worked with migrants and asylum seekers living in hotels. You'd refuse to stay a single night in those places.

The footage is there to be seen for itself. I'm currently watching a YouTube video (shame links aren't allowed here), that shows a hotel in England, being used to house illegal immigrants that are being housed at the expense of the taxpayer. There is nice artwork on the walls, cushy carpets, nice food being served. It's the sort of thing a working citizen of this country would classify as a treat to be able to stay in one of those hotels.

Cigarettes, I will give you that one. Having one table smoking and one table not smoking didn't really prevent second hand smoke inhalation. But many places made their policies regarding smoking clear. I remember about 1998, there was a cafeteria near where my father lived. It was the only one in the area to ban smoking. We thought it was unusual but my father duly respected the policy. People knew which bars would be smoke filled and which ones didn't take kindly to it. I remember around the same time, long distance trains had one carriage for smokers, and the other carriages remained smoke free and they actually did. But then I am talking 1998, later end of the 90s, so not strictly 30 years ago but it gives you an idea. People had respect for others around them. My parents were both smokers and would never sit next to someone on a bench and spark up (unless it was a friend who was a fellow smoker). I agree that smoking is disgusting and choose not to engage in it. I think it's great that there are smoke free spaces but is it the Government's place to mandate what policies private businesses adapt? Is it the Government's place to say that a man who drives the same work van every day and only he uses it shouldn't be allowed to smoke in the confines of a space that only he will enter? Has the ban pushed the problem to a different device (vaping) of which we know has harmful side effects and the full effects are not yet known. The fact that there is now yet another ban, this time on disposable vaping devices suggests that the Government's smoking ban has just pushed the addiction/problem on to a different device. I can say first hand, it's not pleasant to sit in a train surrounded by vaping smoke. The difference being that 30 years ago, people had more respect for authority and those around them. If you requested that someone didn't vape in front of you/close by to you, they'd have obliged. This day and age, you are likely to be met with swearing and other immature behaviour.

SpanThatWorld · 05/06/2025 21:07

Its a complete illusion that "we" controlled our borders better.

Many of the people who are currently coming across Europe were trapped in repressive dictatorships that have subsequently been overthrown, leaving the countries in crisis and with noone to stop them leaving.

Leaving Asia would have involved travelling through the USSR or Iraq. Leaving sub-Saharan Africa would have involved travelling through Algeria or Libya.

Immigration to Europe was effectively controlled by Saddam Gussein and Col Gadaffi. It was a completely different world.

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 21:10

SpanThatWorld · 05/06/2025 21:07

Its a complete illusion that "we" controlled our borders better.

Many of the people who are currently coming across Europe were trapped in repressive dictatorships that have subsequently been overthrown, leaving the countries in crisis and with noone to stop them leaving.

Leaving Asia would have involved travelling through the USSR or Iraq. Leaving sub-Saharan Africa would have involved travelling through Algeria or Libya.

Immigration to Europe was effectively controlled by Saddam Gussein and Col Gadaffi. It was a completely different world.

Many of the people who enter our country illegally do so from France. France is not a "repressive dictatorship", nor is it a country affected by war or famine.

SpanThatWorld · 05/06/2025 21:27

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 21:10

Many of the people who enter our country illegally do so from France. France is not a "repressive dictatorship", nor is it a country affected by war or famine.

My point is that 30 years ago they wouldn't have made it to France - or Germany or Spain or Italy or Türkiye. They would not get anywhere near western Europe because of the dictatorships they could not have travelled through.

It was not "us" that controlled immigration then. There were no people living in the Calais jungle. There were no Greek or Italian islands full of desperate people. Those people were still desperate to get out of their horrific lives in war torn or poverty-stricken homelands. There was simply no physical route through.

cherish123 · 05/06/2025 21:41

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 20:06

Also, we did have the internet in the 90s.

We didn't rely on it, though.

cherish123 · 05/06/2025 21:42

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 19:52

We had five channels, not four, we also had access to Sky TV and Telewest (cable/digital, a rival to Sky). Tattoos were commonplace and very mainstream by the mid-90s. As for "natural beauty"... We had Botox, teeth whitening, hair straighteners, sun beds, fake tan, etc. piercings were just as mainstream as tattoos, breathing implants existed and so did rhinoplasty, you could get your child's ears pinned back on the NHS. "Accepted and loved the bodies God gave us"? Yeah. Right. Fad diets were huge, as was disordered eating and starving yourself - Special K diet, baby food diet, cabbage soup diet, Atkins, blood type diet, size 8 as an aspiration, then 6, then zero. Awareness of the dangers of second-hand smoke was a thing in the 90s too, especially after the death of Roy Castle was attributed to the effects of second-hand smoke.

Used commonsense and took accountability for your own safety? Mate, your generation needed a cartoon cat on the telly to tell them not climb pylons or set fire to shit with their mum's matches.

30 years ago, we had 4 main channels. Ch5 didn't start until 1997. Sky was a satellite or cable (not sure of correct term).

Newnamehiwhodis · 05/06/2025 21:45

Better 30 years ago (now, just hear me out): doc Martens

ExercicenformedeZ · 05/06/2025 21:48

Worse: Food, there was far less variety.

Better: Beauty standards. Beautiful people were actually naturally beautiful, not just with fake lips and faces full of filler. Now that 'beauty' is seen as being accessible to everyone, it is seen as more of a duty than it was when it was more accepted that it was a genetic lottery. I'm not saying that women didn't fret about their appearance, and heroin chic was bad, but all those bland boring insta clones weren't around and we were richer for that.

Sharptonguedwoman · 05/06/2025 21:54

BigFatBully · 05/06/2025 19:17

I love this post. There is so much that I could say.

OK, so worse 30 years ago:
Intellect: if someone wanted to know something, they'd have to go to a library, hope that they had the book they needed and sift through it to find the page that told them the information they need. Today, I have a computer that can find what I need in less than 30 seconds. I feel more educated and enriched in the tapestry of life as a result of the internet. As someone who also doesn't enjoy conventional reading, my vocabulary has also improved from connecting with people of varying levels of intellect all over the world.

Food Choice: I'm a vegetarian and can easily find tofu etc in the supermarket these days. 30 years ago, there was just a small section of the frozen aisle that did bean burgers, crisp bakes or macaroni cheese. If you were vegan, you were limited to lentils and Beanfeast (I do wish Beanfeast was still available, it was lush). Nowadays, you can even get replica mince that binds the same way beef does, and make burgers, meatballs etc with it, unheard of 30 years ago.

Entertainment: There was only 4 channels to watch on television, most of which wound down at around 11pm. If you weren't a fan of Bruce Forsyth, Anthea Turner, Dale Winton & Co, it was hard luck.

Household Chores: 30 years ago, dishwashers weren't common, so every dish and piece of cutlery had to be washed by hand. When I was a child, laundry had to be dried on some sort of raft thing that we pulled up towards the ceiling using rope and hoped that the air in the room was warm enough to dry it.

Cancer Treatment: It's not perfect now and I do still think that the powers that be are deliberately holding back possible cures to extort more financial gain but back in the 1990s, if you got cancer, it was pretty much a death sentence. Occasionally, if caught early, it could be removed with surgery and there was an archaic form of chemotherapy that may prevent life for 5 months or so (but make you unbearably ill at the same time) but it was mostly a hopeless diagnosis. Treatment in this day and age now helps more people survive cancer than die from it and also helps people to live with incurable cancer and actually not die from it, as well as living a happy and fulfilled life.

What was Better 30 years ago?
The economy: There was less austerity in Parliament and the world as a whole had more funds. It was easier to get on to the housing market, my parents bought my family home on modest incomes for less than £60,000 and my mother could afford to resign from work to be a homemaker. My partner and I, though we do enjoy extravagances unashamedly, we are both working despite raising our children and being able to afford the life we've become accustomed to whilst being a mother, wife and homemaker would be great.

Illegal Migration Control: We didn't place illegal migrants in nice hotels back then. Our borders were secure. Our public services weren't straining under the pressure of having so many people on such a small island (I'm based in Britain).

A Sense Of Community: This is the antithesis to my point about the brilliance of technology. Back in 1995, there was no social media, no mobile phones, computers were something that only offices had and E-mail was un-heard of. People went out and socialised more in person than they do now. This brought a greater feeling of togetherness. When I was growing up, there were numerous social clubs, bowling societies, women's clubs, senior citizen's clubs and people took the time and effort to call around at your house to visit you in the flesh. Nowadays, it seems some family/friends just communicate by occasionally commenting on a Facebook post. In one way the internet connects people, it also divides them.

Values and respect: In 1995, if you told them that 30 years from now, bank managers would be turning up to work in jeans, polo shirts and trainers, they'd have said you were barking mad. Unfortunately, I see a lot of people in professional settings who aren't dressed appropriately and it shows a lack of respect for the role that they are doing, the people whom they are serving and the business they work for. Dress standards as a whole have decreased alarmingly. If you watch 1990s sitcom, One Foot In The Grave, you'll notice that Victor and Margaret always dressed respectfully, despite being mostly retired. People only wore tracksuits for exercising. No self-respecting restaurant would allow a gentleman to dine without a tie and dinner jacket and a lady to dine without wearing a smart (knee length or longer) dress. If you go in to a nice restaurant these days, you'll see they let practically anyone in. Miller & Carter is the one chain that still upholds standards of decency in dress and I commend them for it. We also addressed people with respect in the 1990s. I was brought up to refer to my neighbours as Mr & Mrs so and so, never on first name terms. If you look back at One Foot In The Grave, you'll notice that Victor always calls Mrs Warboys as Mrs Warboys, never Jean, despite having known her for many years and her being a good chum of his wife.

Freedom: We wasn't in such a nanny state. Freedom of speech meant just that, no exceptions. No one had a right not to be offended. We didn't need warning notices to tell us that a packet of cashews "may contain nuts" because we used common sense. We took accountability for our own safety. We didn't have the desire to ban everything: disposable carry bags, smoking etc. We had bars, museums, galleries and restaurants that catered for those who chose to be around smoke and those who chose not to. We didn't have the Government breathing down our neck telling us what was bad for us.

High Streets: High Streets used to be bustling in the 1990s, with long-forgotten traders such as Littlewood's, Ethel Austin, British Home Stores and various independents. Beggars and unsavoury people had less gall, and there were less of them. It used to be possible to walk down the High Street without some drug addict accosting you for your money. High Streets used to be floral, bright and cheerful spaces and you'd never be more than a stone's throw away from a cheerful street cleaner or amenities such as public conveniences, telephone boxes or ATMs.

Self Preservation: Tattoos and other unsightly body customisation was deeply frowned upon in the 1990s and anyone in a customer facing role was required to keep them hidden out of sight. People respected their natural beauty and didn't obliterate it with dodgy fillers from some back street surgeon in Belgium or "Turkey teeth", breast implants, dying hair hideous colours such as blue or bright green and most people only tanned naturally, on holiday. We accepted and loved the bodies that God gave us and didn't all have to conform to look a certain way, poles apart from the society we live in today.

Don't want to rain on your parade but we had a dishwasher in about 1972. 6 in family with no love for washing up. Friends did too.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 05/06/2025 22:02

@BigFatBully
This is hilarious. Some bits I completely agree with, but so much of it is ridiculous. The bit about more respect, look at One Foot in the Grave etc...I'm sorry codswallop. There were poll tax riots, the police were institutionally racist, we didn't "respect" each other more. Public sector workers were still abused by members of the public for example. Harold Shipman were a nice pair of brogues, that doesn't make him less than a Dr wearing trainers because they wanted to get their 10k steps in on the way to work.

Oh and don't start me on the borders crap. I think this post is written by a Reform voter. Yusuf, is that you?

ThinWomansBrain · 05/06/2025 22:04

I was 30 years younger 😀

LeoDiCapricorn · 05/06/2025 22:07

I had an email address at university and I left in 1995. My sister married in 1993 and her husband had loads of tattoos - even more now!
My dad worked in an IT company that was casual dress throughout the 80s and until he retired in 2014
Actual Darth Vader taught us how to cross roads (although that could have been a bit earlier than 1995! )

Are you thinking of 1975?

Pottingup · 05/06/2025 22:10

MugsyBalonz · 05/06/2025 19:40

Where on earth were you living!? I was around in the 90s and don't recognise any of that rose-tinted story 😆

Agree. Love the idea that you were surrounded by restaurants peopled with men in DJ’s and women in below the knee dresses. Definitely not UK in the mid ‘90’s.
I think the Mrs Warboys thing from OFITG is part of the joke.