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AIBU to expect him to pay more even though he has 1 child and I have 2.

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MamaOfMayhem · 29/05/2025 16:05

I have 2 boys aged 6 and 5. My husband passed away just after my youngest turned 1. I was sole beneficiary to his life insurance policies. We have managed with support from my family and in laws and live comfortably.

My issue is, about a year ago I started seeing someone who has one child of his own. We never met each others children until around 3months ago. His daughter is 9. When we introduced them it was at an outing. My boys asked for ice cream and his child didn’t want one. He told me there and then that I should pay for my own kids as when it came to the children he didn’t want to mix finances. It did get catch me off guard as I wouldn’t have ever hesitated to treat his child and I remember thinking ok fine. A few more outings were met the same way. He refused to buy anything for my boys whilst I still offered to pay for his daughters as I felt bad leaving her out if my boys got something.

Currently we have separate living arrangements. He says he wants to get married at some point but I don’t know if I ever want to marry again or even stay with him tbh. I’m seeing him in a different light. Entitled.

He lives at his mums house with his child. His ex is not involved in the child’s life but pays towards their daughter’s needs and they seem to manage. His child has the box room and he sleeps on the guest sofa in the downstairs study.

My house is mortgage free. It has 3 double bedrooms. My children both have their own rooms. We also have a small office/study upstairs,it’s tiny but sufficient for when I work from home but would struggle with a single bed.

He never asked about my living arrangements or my finances and I never mentioned or asked about his. I did have the feeling he thought I was struggling; and that maybe I would end up using him for money at some point. I have never asked him for anything. He told me when it comes to the kids we were to keep finances separate as he didn’t think it fair to fund my kids as there’s 2 of them and he only has 1. He had never been inside my house due to the kids and I had never been to his. We always met up at places as we both drive. This worked for us.

His first visit to my place has changed a few things. He was surprised I had a nice little place. Suddenly he’s acting like he’s the man of the house practically dying to move in. I made it clear that I wasn’t in a position to live together just yet as my children are still dealing with the change, I want to ease things in and only when they feel comfortable will I discuss the changes with the kids included in the conversation. For me this seemed fair as it would affect all our lives. I also do enjoy my own space, I don’t want to rush anything and regret it later.

The topic of rent/mortgage came up and he asked how much my mortgage was. I mentioned my house was mortgage free as their dad’s money covered the mortgage balance that was left over. He questioned me about how much money I received and I said I wasn’t comfortable discussing this. He seemed to get annnoyed and said I didn’t trust him. I replied saying it didn’t matter as I had nothing left and the money I did receive has all gone and the boys just have savings for their future.

He ignored me for a few days and didn’t reply to any of my texts and calls. When he finally did he said I wasn’t serious about our relationship and to prove it to him we should all move in and live together as a family. Even told me my boys could share a room and his daughter would have her own space as she was the only girl.

I asked him when was a good time to move myself and my kids into his mums house. He replied saying why I would be moving into his home when we could all have more space at mine. I asked him why he thought he was entitled to move into my house with his child getting her own room and my boys sharing. That I didn’t think it was fair for him to decide these things alone without my input.

We spoke at length about living arrangements. His thought process was that living in my home would financially make more sense. He wanted to split the bills with him paying 1/3 and me paying 2/3s, as I had more children and said £300 should be more than enough to cover “his portion of the bills”. He currently pays his mum £500. I told him I would think about it.

I have been thinking about it. I have happily covered all the expenses in my home for years and would be able to manage fine alone. He expects his child to have her own room. My boys would end up sharing which they have already said no to. The boys get on fine but both have different interests. For the sake of £300 a month I told him no. That for him and his child they would benefit from a bigger house. His daughter benefits from a larger bedroom. He benefits from lower outgoings. Yet for my boys they’d lose out on their own safe space and privacy and I felt like his contribution was to low and insulting considering how much he was paying his mum.

Am I wrong in thinking if he wanted a future with us then he should start seeing my children as an extension to his and that all 3 should be treated fairly. The bills should be split fairly as the children have a room each with us as a couple having one. He said my youngest could have the study if he wanted his own space and I felt annoyed that he thought my child should give up a double bedroom to sleep in a box room.

I told him we could look at getting a new property together and I could look to rent my home out. We could look at places that would be big enough to give us all adequate space. He told me that he didn’t want to spend that much and I was being selfish and inconsiderate. That mortgage and bills on a 4 bed would mean he’d pay double or triple what he’s paying to his mum.

He asked if I’d be willing to sell my home and use the money towards a new property together as it would mean lower mortgage payments. I said no. That this home was where my children were born and I wanted them to inherit it when old enough so I would never sell. This opened up a new conversation on what his child would inherit. I said from me she would inherit nothing. My home was my husbands so rightfully will go to my boys and only my boys. That he didn’t contribute anything so why would his child get a share. Suddenly he felt if we married his daughter should get an equal share. I said any marital assets we got together I agree 100% in splitting equally for all 3 but not my current home which has nothing to do with him or his child.

He has since stopped talking to me and said that I am horrible for not thinking about his daughter and putting my kids first. I responded with who was he putting first when he refused to pay for an ice cream for my kids yet expects my boys to share their potential inheritance with his.

I Genuinely do not believe I have done or said anything wrong. My in laws were gobsmacked when I told them and begged me not to stay with him and that my boys had to come first. So much so that they said they would look to change their own wills so any money would go directly in trust to my boys. I did think they were going a step far but again I understand them not wanting their money to go to anyone else.

I have since decided to call time on our relationship and said I do not feel comfortable moving forward as feel like I’m being used.

He told me I would forever be alone as I put my own selfish needs first and couldn’t see the bigger picture. I must admit I don’t see the bigger picture. I’m happy to be alone if it means my kids don’t lose out and when I think about it I felt that it was always me doing and paying for most of our days out or we’d split 50/50. He never once covered the cost of anything solely even when we just grabbed a coffee.

I am taking a step back from dating now as I am mind boggled. Was I being unreasonable.?
Does anyone think I was being selfish because I cannot see it.

OP posts:
Dweetfidilove · 29/05/2025 17:07

I would have dumped him after the ice-cream incident, because that level of selfishness would never a good relationship make.

You have done the correct thing in ending the relationship @MamaOfMayhem . Not only does he think he should fleece you, but figures he's entitled to disrespect you when you don't just comply.

Continue being vigilant and protecting your and your children's security, as you're an attractive prospect for shameless cocklodgers.

💐

Prettygreeneyes43 · 29/05/2025 17:07

Wow that made me angry on your behalf. What a money grabbing twat. And thank god you have your head screwed on. Well done!!

GoneAlready · 29/05/2025 17:07

What an awful, awful man; so glad you binned him! 100% the right thing, don’t even think about entertaining his bullshit about you being the problem. He is a selfish wannabe cocklodger who didn’t care about your or your DC; suggesting you were the one being selfish and you’ll always be alone was gaslighting and bordering on abusive.

He would have only got worse and his demands more outrageous and unfair had you moved him in; be very proud of yourself for seeing through him, and don’t be swayed by his attempts to blame you!

Nofrogslegs · 29/05/2025 17:07

Please never, ever give this awful, free loading man any more of your time (or any future ones like him)

Catwalking · 29/05/2025 17:08

Escape from this male as fast & securely as you can. I might even get a solicitor involved tbh.

Horses7 · 29/05/2025 17:08

Well done you - what a nerve he’s got!
You and your boys have dodged a bullet, don’t let him gaslight you into thinking otherwise.
There are decent men out there but he’s not one of them. 🚩 🚩🚩🚩

LegalQElderlyDad · 29/05/2025 17:08

Just to say: Well done, you're absolutely right and don't let him even attempt to weasel his way back into your life!!

TiggyTomCat · 29/05/2025 17:09

Sooo many red flags all over this - you have absolutely made the right decision. He's a user pure and simple and you would have had so many regrets. You have protected yourself and your children. No price on that.

ScoobyDoesnt · 29/05/2025 17:09

My immediate thought as I was reading was cocklodger - and I can see that the I'm not the only one by far!

Consider it a bullet well dodged.

TheAmusedQuail · 29/05/2025 17:09

This can't be real. Because if it is real @MamaOfMayhem he is the very prototype and epitome of a gold-digging cocklodger. I assume he had a gold plated penis and was a champion shagger? Because he'd need to have something as a selling point.

If he was real, you have been very very lucky that he's shown his massive ego and selfishness so early to enable you to dodge this bullet in human form.

GabriellaMontez · 29/05/2025 17:10

Thank God you've escaped before it became complicated.

Freeme31 · 29/05/2025 17:10

You absolutely did the right thing walking away from this greedy/selfish man. You sound like a great mum always putting your boys first don’t let his “put downs” ever make you think any different. The right person will come into your life again one day but it certainly is not him.

madamegazelle1 · 29/05/2025 17:10

Do not regret your decision- you can do so much better than this man. He sounds awful and as you have managed to walk away please Keep walking and don’t look back!

WildCats24 · 29/05/2025 17:11

Wow. He went from “not mixing finances/buying ice creams for each others’ kids” to “paying you below market rent/inheriting your property” at lightening speed.

Cock. Lodger.

And if anyone is going to be “sad and alone forever,” my wager is on that being the person who sleeps on Mummy’s sofa.

trac2007 · 29/05/2025 17:11

I rarely comment on here, but you are absolutely not unreasonable or selfish in the slightest. He sounds like a horrible person. I’m sorry you lost your husband and now are going through a break up, but sounds like you’re 100% better off without him. You sound lovely and sensible, I’m sure when you’re ready, you’ll go back dating and hopefully meet someone nice.

Dramatic · 29/05/2025 17:11

Him not buying your kids an ice cream might not seem like a big deal but it's a big indicator of how he would treat them while simultaneously wanting you to treat his daughter like your own. He's absolutely batshit, you've had a lucky escape.

TheFairyCaravan · 29/05/2025 17:12

I’d rather be forever alone in my mortgage free house than forever alone on my mum’s sofa, because thats exactly where he’s staying.

You’ve dodged a massive bullet there @MamaOfMayhem

RobinEllacotStrike · 29/05/2025 17:12

Well done OP - you 100% have a grasp on this situation and have done the right thing. You have done nothing wrong.

When I go out for a coffee with my friend (not romantic friend) we are always buying each other coffees. I can't count the time I have bought other children ice creams, treats etc.

He showed you who he was. You paid attention. You believed him. BRAVO!

Its sounds like you've skillfully dodged a long game steath cocklodger. Very well done.

JudgeJ · 29/05/2025 17:13

JHound · 29/05/2025 16:20

If nothing else. This phrase alone says you dodged a bullet:

”He told me I would forever be alone as I put my own selfish needs first and couldn’t see the bigger picture.”

The reality is that you can see the bigger picture, it's just not the one he thinks it is! Are your initials ATM?

Un4732 · 29/05/2025 17:14

I can't believe what I just read, I felt suffocated doing so. Well done OP - he showed you EXACTLY who he was. Vile. Much, much better alone than with that.

Byebyechicken · 29/05/2025 17:15

MamaOfMayhem · 29/05/2025 16:05

I have 2 boys aged 6 and 5. My husband passed away just after my youngest turned 1. I was sole beneficiary to his life insurance policies. We have managed with support from my family and in laws and live comfortably.

My issue is, about a year ago I started seeing someone who has one child of his own. We never met each others children until around 3months ago. His daughter is 9. When we introduced them it was at an outing. My boys asked for ice cream and his child didn’t want one. He told me there and then that I should pay for my own kids as when it came to the children he didn’t want to mix finances. It did get catch me off guard as I wouldn’t have ever hesitated to treat his child and I remember thinking ok fine. A few more outings were met the same way. He refused to buy anything for my boys whilst I still offered to pay for his daughters as I felt bad leaving her out if my boys got something.

Currently we have separate living arrangements. He says he wants to get married at some point but I don’t know if I ever want to marry again or even stay with him tbh. I’m seeing him in a different light. Entitled.

He lives at his mums house with his child. His ex is not involved in the child’s life but pays towards their daughter’s needs and they seem to manage. His child has the box room and he sleeps on the guest sofa in the downstairs study.

My house is mortgage free. It has 3 double bedrooms. My children both have their own rooms. We also have a small office/study upstairs,it’s tiny but sufficient for when I work from home but would struggle with a single bed.

He never asked about my living arrangements or my finances and I never mentioned or asked about his. I did have the feeling he thought I was struggling; and that maybe I would end up using him for money at some point. I have never asked him for anything. He told me when it comes to the kids we were to keep finances separate as he didn’t think it fair to fund my kids as there’s 2 of them and he only has 1. He had never been inside my house due to the kids and I had never been to his. We always met up at places as we both drive. This worked for us.

His first visit to my place has changed a few things. He was surprised I had a nice little place. Suddenly he’s acting like he’s the man of the house practically dying to move in. I made it clear that I wasn’t in a position to live together just yet as my children are still dealing with the change, I want to ease things in and only when they feel comfortable will I discuss the changes with the kids included in the conversation. For me this seemed fair as it would affect all our lives. I also do enjoy my own space, I don’t want to rush anything and regret it later.

The topic of rent/mortgage came up and he asked how much my mortgage was. I mentioned my house was mortgage free as their dad’s money covered the mortgage balance that was left over. He questioned me about how much money I received and I said I wasn’t comfortable discussing this. He seemed to get annnoyed and said I didn’t trust him. I replied saying it didn’t matter as I had nothing left and the money I did receive has all gone and the boys just have savings for their future.

He ignored me for a few days and didn’t reply to any of my texts and calls. When he finally did he said I wasn’t serious about our relationship and to prove it to him we should all move in and live together as a family. Even told me my boys could share a room and his daughter would have her own space as she was the only girl.

I asked him when was a good time to move myself and my kids into his mums house. He replied saying why I would be moving into his home when we could all have more space at mine. I asked him why he thought he was entitled to move into my house with his child getting her own room and my boys sharing. That I didn’t think it was fair for him to decide these things alone without my input.

We spoke at length about living arrangements. His thought process was that living in my home would financially make more sense. He wanted to split the bills with him paying 1/3 and me paying 2/3s, as I had more children and said £300 should be more than enough to cover “his portion of the bills”. He currently pays his mum £500. I told him I would think about it.

I have been thinking about it. I have happily covered all the expenses in my home for years and would be able to manage fine alone. He expects his child to have her own room. My boys would end up sharing which they have already said no to. The boys get on fine but both have different interests. For the sake of £300 a month I told him no. That for him and his child they would benefit from a bigger house. His daughter benefits from a larger bedroom. He benefits from lower outgoings. Yet for my boys they’d lose out on their own safe space and privacy and I felt like his contribution was to low and insulting considering how much he was paying his mum.

Am I wrong in thinking if he wanted a future with us then he should start seeing my children as an extension to his and that all 3 should be treated fairly. The bills should be split fairly as the children have a room each with us as a couple having one. He said my youngest could have the study if he wanted his own space and I felt annoyed that he thought my child should give up a double bedroom to sleep in a box room.

I told him we could look at getting a new property together and I could look to rent my home out. We could look at places that would be big enough to give us all adequate space. He told me that he didn’t want to spend that much and I was being selfish and inconsiderate. That mortgage and bills on a 4 bed would mean he’d pay double or triple what he’s paying to his mum.

He asked if I’d be willing to sell my home and use the money towards a new property together as it would mean lower mortgage payments. I said no. That this home was where my children were born and I wanted them to inherit it when old enough so I would never sell. This opened up a new conversation on what his child would inherit. I said from me she would inherit nothing. My home was my husbands so rightfully will go to my boys and only my boys. That he didn’t contribute anything so why would his child get a share. Suddenly he felt if we married his daughter should get an equal share. I said any marital assets we got together I agree 100% in splitting equally for all 3 but not my current home which has nothing to do with him or his child.

He has since stopped talking to me and said that I am horrible for not thinking about his daughter and putting my kids first. I responded with who was he putting first when he refused to pay for an ice cream for my kids yet expects my boys to share their potential inheritance with his.

I Genuinely do not believe I have done or said anything wrong. My in laws were gobsmacked when I told them and begged me not to stay with him and that my boys had to come first. So much so that they said they would look to change their own wills so any money would go directly in trust to my boys. I did think they were going a step far but again I understand them not wanting their money to go to anyone else.

I have since decided to call time on our relationship and said I do not feel comfortable moving forward as feel like I’m being used.

He told me I would forever be alone as I put my own selfish needs first and couldn’t see the bigger picture. I must admit I don’t see the bigger picture. I’m happy to be alone if it means my kids don’t lose out and when I think about it I felt that it was always me doing and paying for most of our days out or we’d split 50/50. He never once covered the cost of anything solely even when we just grabbed a coffee.

I am taking a step back from dating now as I am mind boggled. Was I being unreasonable.?
Does anyone think I was being selfish because I cannot see it.

I have read this completely agog at the audacity of this man!!
You feel like you are being used, because you are!! Or at least that is his intention.
He wants you to sacrifice everything that rightly belongs to you and your boys to prove your loyalty. He truly believes his daughter should be entitled to more than your boys and you should be the one providing it, because you can!!
Why didn't he suggest his daughter having the study? Why do one of your boys have to move into the study?
This man will bleed you dry!
He wants you to 'take care' of him and his daughter financially, even at the expense of your boys going without!
Horrible man! It is he who will be alone forever unless he meets a woman who is prepared to sacrifice everything she has to prove her dedication to him and his daughter.
Throw this one back OP. He has no respect for you or your boys.
He is the selfish one who was probably hoping you would provide him and his daughter a ticket out of his mums (at an even cheaper rate than he's paying now.)

Cyclebabble · 29/05/2025 17:16

I think with the ice cream incident he has demonstrated enough for you to go no further with him- how mean? This will only get worse if you marry. I suspect you have a would be cock lodger. You and your children are worth more than this.

Purplecatshopaholic · 29/05/2025 17:16

Jeezo, what a CF! You have had a lucky escape.

Whenhesbad · 29/05/2025 17:16

I don't get the ice cream thing but agree you shouldn't give him or his daughter your house or make your kids share a room so his daughter can have a larger room in your house.

ButItWasNotYourFaultButMine · 29/05/2025 17:17

OMG! You absolutely 100% did the right thing by dumping him! I only wish you'd done it sooner! So many red flags from this guy!!!