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Is ‘shunter for British Rail’ a working class job?

283 replies

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:15

Been dating a man for 7 months. He was born 1970 just FYI. His parents were both born in 1927 just for context and both long gone from this world.

I know his mum worked in a care home - but I really don’t know her level of seniority- could’ve bern a manager - could’ve had a more routine job - I haven’t asked.

Anyway - I know he was close to his Dad and seemed to be a happy family but had no clue what his Dad did for a living so asked him over the weekend and he said

‘Shunter for British Rail.

AIBU to ask if you’d class it as a working class job?

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kary42 · 28/05/2025 08:52

heavenisaplaceonearth · 28/05/2025 08:28

Lots of working class jobs are well paid. Class isn’t to do with money. It’s not a “professional” job in the way Dr, accountant etc is. Did you think all working class people were poor???

His mother must have had him extraordinarily late for the time.

My grandma had children over a 20 year plus period. Lots of people had children from their 20s to early 40s with very big families.

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:53

ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/05/2025 08:48

You are really just interested in whether your new partner’s dead parents were middle of working class and what they earned? To the extent that you’re googling stuff and starting threads about it? Do you think that’s rational behaviour?

How do you think he’d feel about this? How would you feel if he were doing it to/about your parents?

wouldn’t care If he was doing it about mine

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corlan · 28/05/2025 08:54

This reminds me of The Wheel Tappers and Shunters Social Club which was regularly on TV in the 70s - definitely working class .

luckylavender · 28/05/2025 08:55

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:15

Been dating a man for 7 months. He was born 1970 just FYI. His parents were both born in 1927 just for context and both long gone from this world.

I know his mum worked in a care home - but I really don’t know her level of seniority- could’ve bern a manager - could’ve had a more routine job - I haven’t asked.

Anyway - I know he was close to his Dad and seemed to be a happy family but had no clue what his Dad did for a living so asked him over the weekend and he said

‘Shunter for British Rail.

AIBU to ask if you’d class it as a working class job?

What a vile thread you’ve started. Dump him, he deserves better.

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 08:55

My mum is 1 of 8 surving children, and my grandfather wasn't even in the war because he was exempt, so the babies just kept on coming!

YouWhatNowHuh · 28/05/2025 08:55

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:44

Yeah I suppose

i had a shit upbringing and I’m desperate trying to overcome it and not be like my parents

I don't think you can tell if he had a shit upbringing or not from what jobs his parents did. You can have a shit upbringing regardless of class.

WheresMyPlanetGone · 28/05/2025 08:57

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:44

Yeah I suppose

i had a shit upbringing and I’m desperate trying to overcome it and not be like my parents

How will knowing how much your boyfriend’s dad earned help you to break this cycle though?

EmeraldRoulette · 28/05/2025 08:59

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:44

Yeah I suppose

i had a shit upbringing and I’m desperate trying to overcome it and not be like my parents

Finding out people 's opinions on his father's work won't have any relevance here.

also wondering what age you are. No one is doomed to repeat parental mistakes.

PandorasJam · 28/05/2025 08:59

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:40

OK…….

I’m grateful to everyone who’s responded to me even if you’ve called me snobbish etc .. I wanted responses etc .. I got them.

To those who called me snobbish - I’m not currently working and have considered trying for this job myself actually

one slight problem though - I really want to work for British Rail not the regional companies that are around now 😭

Or you could try being a coal miner as it's also working class and well paid.

You can get a leaflet from your nearest coal mine.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 28/05/2025 08:59

heavenisaplaceonearth · 28/05/2025 08:35

Then you’ll be aware that having children over 40 in the 1970s was fairly rare. I think you were considered ancient over 30!

I had my first child in 1984. I was 27 and officially classified as "an elderly primagravida". My doctor was most amused but he had to do it.

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:59

EmeraldRoulette · 28/05/2025 08:59

Finding out people 's opinions on his father's work won't have any relevance here.

also wondering what age you are. No one is doomed to repeat parental mistakes.

I’m born 72 partner born 70

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cremebruleee · 28/05/2025 09:00

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:24

Just interested

looked online and shunters seem relatively well paid

What a weird thing to do.

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 09:01

You are 53 what "cycle" are you trying to break ?

Elektra1 · 28/05/2025 09:01

I doubt his parents were both born in 1927 if he was born in 1970! And why does it matter whether his parents had “working class” jobs? Are you Nancy Mitford?

Correction · 28/05/2025 09:02

YouWhatNowHuh · 28/05/2025 08:55

I don't think you can tell if he had a shit upbringing or not from what jobs his parents did. You can have a shit upbringing regardless of class.

No I agree

sorry I didn’t mean that by any means

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Correction · 28/05/2025 09:02

Elektra1 · 28/05/2025 09:01

I doubt his parents were both born in 1927 if he was born in 1970! And why does it matter whether his parents had “working class” jobs? Are you Nancy Mitford?

I was born in 1972 to parents born in 1931

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Allschoolsareartschools · 28/05/2025 09:03

You seem ridiculously uninformed about the future of the railways especially if you want to work in this area.
Your dp is mid 50s & probably looking at retirement before too long from this well paid & usually well pensioned job.
Most people are working class, it's fine to be interested but I'm not sure what you're looking for here. It has absolutely nothing to do with his upbringing, thinking about what his parents did at this age is bizarre.

Whippetlovely · 28/05/2025 09:05

My dad was a shunter, yes it's working class. He worked bloody hard, shift work too. I remember they had some great family Christmas partys and very occasionally he'd take me to work and I'd sit in the office. He got made redundant after many years and was given a free rail /iow ferry pass for life. Bloody handy dad and mum are always going on day trips on the train over the island ect. I don't know if it's that common now they probably have machines that move the trains.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 28/05/2025 09:06

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:53

wouldn’t care If he was doing it about mine

I could understand if you were interested in his parents lives , and didn't know what the job entailed, but you are interested in the " class " of the job, which is entirely different .

Abhannmor · 28/05/2025 09:06

Yes. My dad , also born 1928 was a shunter at the time of my birth. Quite a dangerous job too. But I'm not sure it exists now?

TheDisillusionedAnarchist · 28/05/2025 09:06

The demise of plentiful well paid working class jobs (ie jobs you can enter without much education and work up) is responsible for may of the issues in society IMO.

It’s alienated increasing numbers of people by restricting their access to society, to housing, to leisure activities, to wealth. While many of those jobs were to some degree subsidised by the government, the same families are still subsidised by the government but by top up benefits on their low wages. I don’t think that’s better and their demise has also pushed down wages overall so now middle class jobs suffer from similar wage deflation, soon we’ll have a wealth class and everyone else.

Correction · 28/05/2025 09:06

PandorasJam · 28/05/2025 08:59

Or you could try being a coal miner as it's also working class and well paid.

You can get a leaflet from your nearest coal mine.

Ok I’ll pop down today

however- a railway shunter appeals to me more than a coal miner tbh! So many fatalities historically in coal mines - can’t say this appeals if I’m being honest

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accentdusoleil · 28/05/2025 09:07

Are you considering becoming one ? I think that works creep your partner out

GAJLY · 28/05/2025 09:08

Yes a working class job but a well paid one!

Correction · 28/05/2025 09:09

accentdusoleil · 28/05/2025 09:07

Are you considering becoming one ? I think that works creep your partner out

No not at all!! If anything it would be showing that I value the job and implying his dad had good judgement in choosing the profession

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