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Is ‘shunter for British Rail’ a working class job?

283 replies

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:15

Been dating a man for 7 months. He was born 1970 just FYI. His parents were both born in 1927 just for context and both long gone from this world.

I know his mum worked in a care home - but I really don’t know her level of seniority- could’ve bern a manager - could’ve had a more routine job - I haven’t asked.

Anyway - I know he was close to his Dad and seemed to be a happy family but had no clue what his Dad did for a living so asked him over the weekend and he said

‘Shunter for British Rail.

AIBU to ask if you’d class it as a working class job?

OP posts:
Correction · 28/05/2025 08:42

Squarepuffin · 28/05/2025 08:38

Yes, but why are you interested?

Dunno really just am!

OP posts:
FloppySarnie · 28/05/2025 08:42

heavenisaplaceonearth · 28/05/2025 08:28

Lots of working class jobs are well paid. Class isn’t to do with money. It’s not a “professional” job in the way Dr, accountant etc is. Did you think all working class people were poor???

His mother must have had him extraordinarily late for the time.

Lots of women had children in their early 40s - no contraception. My family tree is filled with kids born to mums this age.

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 08:42

Squarepuffin · 28/05/2025 08:41

Yes, but that's not what defines it as working class

?

NattyTurtle59 · 28/05/2025 08:43

Why do you even care? The British class system is so ridiculous to those of us outside of it - no-one here would ask such a stupid question.

Squarepuffin · 28/05/2025 08:43

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:40

OK…….

I’m grateful to everyone who’s responded to me even if you’ve called me snobbish etc .. I wanted responses etc .. I got them.

To those who called me snobbish - I’m not currently working and have considered trying for this job myself actually

one slight problem though - I really want to work for British Rail not the regional companies that are around now 😭

Hmm, a strange way to lever in the re-nationalisation plans or do you never feel "interested" enough to Google the news?

www.gov.uk/government/news/first-train-services-to-return-to-public-ownership-revealed

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:44

Keepingongoing · 28/05/2025 08:41

Are you trying to work out what sort of upbringing this man had, OP?

Edited to add: Posted before I saw your last post

Edited

Yeah I suppose

i had a shit upbringing and I’m desperate trying to overcome it and not be like my parents

OP posts:
Correction · 28/05/2025 08:44

Squarepuffin · 28/05/2025 08:43

Hmm, a strange way to lever in the re-nationalisation plans or do you never feel "interested" enough to Google the news?

www.gov.uk/government/news/first-train-services-to-return-to-public-ownership-revealed

Ah thanks I didn’t realise this

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TheGreyQuail · 28/05/2025 08:44

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:40

OK…….

I’m grateful to everyone who’s responded to me even if you’ve called me snobbish etc .. I wanted responses etc .. I got them.

To those who called me snobbish - I’m not currently working and have considered trying for this job myself actually

one slight problem though - I really want to work for British Rail not the regional companies that are around now 😭

Sorry OP but British Rail ended in 1997 when it was nationalised to become National Rail.
It is being reverted gradually to Great British Railways, perhaps that's what you mean.

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 08:44

FloppySarnie · 28/05/2025 08:42

Lots of women had children in their early 40s - no contraception. My family tree is filled with kids born to mums this age.

Yes my mums family had a 20+ age difference between siblings I don't think it was unusual for the last baby to born to a women in her 40s,

WheresMyPlanetGone · 28/05/2025 08:45

FloppySarnie · 28/05/2025 08:42

Lots of women had children in their early 40s - no contraception. My family tree is filled with kids born to mums this age.

My dad was born in 1957 to his 43 year old mum!

Squarepuffin · 28/05/2025 08:45

FloppySarnie · 28/05/2025 08:42

Lots of women had children in their early 40s - no contraception. My family tree is filled with kids born to mums this age.

A lot of them were teenage daughters' kids....

ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/05/2025 08:45

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 08:40

Well it depends on the job doesn't it? My dh is in a working class job which has a paygrade.

That doesn’t make it applicable to ‘working class jobs’, just your DH’s specific job. Lots of them have no such thing.

It’s like saying ‘working class jobs have uniforms’ because yours does. No. Some do, some do not.

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:46

FloppySarnie · 28/05/2025 08:42

Lots of women had children in their early 40s - no contraception. My family tree is filled with kids born to mums this age.

My great gran was having kids uo to late 40s so understandably I don’t think 43 is old to have a baby

OP posts:
Squarepuffin · 28/05/2025 08:47

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 08:44

Yes my mums family had a 20+ age difference between siblings I don't think it was unusual for the last baby to born to a women in her 40s,

Hmm. It wasn't unusual for unmarried daughters to have their babies raised by their mothers... My Dad has a big age gap between his oldest and youngest siblings too, with the last baby being born when his mother was 47...

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:47

Coffeeishot · 28/05/2025 08:44

Yes my mums family had a 20+ age difference between siblings I don't think it was unusual for the last baby to born to a women in her 40s,

My great gran had

5 babies over 40 - last at 47! 💪🙌

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ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/05/2025 08:48

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:42

Dunno really just am!

You are really just interested in whether your new partner’s dead parents were middle of working class and what they earned? To the extent that you’re googling stuff and starting threads about it? Do you think that’s rational behaviour?

How do you think he’d feel about this? How would you feel if he were doing it to/about your parents?

Jackiepumpkinhead · 28/05/2025 08:48

Baffling

TheyreLikeUsButRichAndThin · 28/05/2025 08:48

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:29

You’ve basically answered the question yourself as to why I’ve asked -

it sound like a working class job but is well paid when I looked online

I think you’re confusing class with wage though? We all known plumbers, builders, train drivers etc are very well paid and that’s surely ‘working class’ ? Who cares?

Also why did you look online to find out how much your boyfriend’s dead dad made 50 years ago? 😂

tripleginandtonic · 28/05/2025 08:49

It isn't that well paid, less then £40000

BristolDolly22 · 28/05/2025 08:50

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:22

To be fair I was just stating the facts - I didn’t say I cared and I honestly don’t care !!

You cared enough to start a thread specifically asking what “class” of job it was though?

Mulledjuice · 28/05/2025 08:51

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:25

Ok because shunter sounds like a working class job but I’ve looked online and it’s well paid

If you care about class then surely you understand that it's not just about money.

Read some Nancy Mitford? (Or some Jilly Cooper)

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:51

tripleginandtonic · 28/05/2025 08:49

It isn't that well paid, less then £40000

Erm … I was on £23k in 2018 - to me it’s well paid !!!!

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1AngelicFruitCake · 28/05/2025 08:51

I know both of my in laws had low paid jobs. I admire my husband all the more for studying to make sure he was better paid and better educated.

YourAzureEagle · 28/05/2025 08:51

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:29

You’ve basically answered the question yourself as to why I’ve asked -

it sound like a working class job but is well paid when I looked online

Pay and class of job are not inherently related. I'm 45, an electrician who specialises in industrial control systems and am self employed, earn over £100k - but it's still a working class job, I'm still blue collar.

However I come from an upper class family and went to public school, but I prefer massively the type of people I work with, mix with and have married into.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 28/05/2025 08:52

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:25

Ok because shunter sounds like a working class job but I’ve looked online and it’s well paid

Many working class jobs are fairly well paid!

especially those in skilled trades and or employed by the government.

but why does it matter?

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