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Dilemma - mum wants me to move closer

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realist123 · 25/05/2025 09:20

’m almost 40. For context, my mum and I have had a complicated relationship over the years, she had me young and my childhood was tricky. My dad was an alcoholic and though they separated when I was small my mum made poor choices - she met someone else after my dad but new stepfather was unpleasant and clearly did not want the package deal of a small child, they eventually got divorced.

There’s more to this story and a lot to put down here but I did not feel my mother protected me from these experiences and passively stood back. Growing up was a lonely experience and I spent large amounts of time alone. My grandmother was heavily involved in my upbringing and feel she was more like a mum figure to me at times.

looking back mum and I never had a ‘normal’ mother daughter relationship, or spent bonding time together just the two of us. I felt envious hearing peers talk about their mums and how supportive they were. I often feel she has prioritised her relationships with others, including the various step fathers I had as a child and I came second. She looked after my physical needs however when I later did therapy as an adult I realised in hindsight she had been emotionally neglectful.

I left home at 18 and ended up moving to the other side of the country to go to university, mum pushed me to go to uni as unlike her she wanted me to get a decent education and felt a degree would open up options for me. When I went to uni I had a breakdown and suffered with severe depression. Felt my mum wasn’t bothered, she rarely reached out to me and i ended up being the one to make the long journey for home visits, when I suggested she visit me she would fob me off and would never text or call. I felt lost as an adult and no surprise that I got into relationships with friends/partners who were very self centred and narcissistic and took more than they gave.

I decided to settle where I was and started to feel resentment that I was the one making all the effort. Mum visited me only once for my graduation for two days but was on edge and anxious the whole time and wanted to get back home and thought about going back home early despite my being hurt over it. I tried to be understanding but it really got me down as it took the shine off what should have been a special occasion for me.

When I went into therapy I started seeing things differently and realised I hadn’t had a lot of empathy from her and I ended up pulling back from mum and dropped the rope to see if she would step up - the end result was we didn’t speak and ended up estranged for around 4-5 years though she would still send cards at Christmas and my birthday. We eventually resumed contact as she was involved in a serious car accident about ten years ago which she was lucky to survive- fortunately she made a full recovery, then over time our relationship gradually improved.

Over time mum has reflected on things, she’s become less obnoxious and our relationship is better than it used to be. We’ve had some honest conversations and she partly acknowledges things have been difficult for me, though there is still a bit of denial on her part. She apologised for not getting it right with me growing up which meant a lot. I have tried to be gracious and understanding and don’t hold grudges as I accept parents aren’t perfect. I’m more concerned with the here and now.

Last year my grandmother who lived near to my mum passed away. Another long backstory to this but in a nutshell my mum was my grandmothers full time caretaker both emotionally and in her later years physically when she went into a care home with dementia the last few years of her life. My mum was very devoted and enmeshed with my grandmother and my nan has always relied heavily upon my mum emotionally and otherwise.

Since nan has passed away I think my mum has been reflecting and has regrets. She keeps saying she wishes we lived closer and confessed to me last year that she secretly felt hurt that I chose to leave home so far away all those years ago which was new to me and has strongly hinted about me moving closer to her as she says it’s impossible for us to have a meaningful relationship living at the distance we do. When I point out that she rarely makes the effort to come and visit she maintains that it was me who chose to move away and I could have stayed and settled there if I’d wanted to which I suppose is a fair point.

There’s no question of her moving to be near me as she hasn’t got the financial capability to do so having never really worked or planned ahead, also her and my stepfather would not want to leave the area. Mum has lots of hangups and issues in general with anxiety. She won’t go willingly to many places and hasn’t ever really been on holiday even within the UK, She hasn’t been abroad since I was small. Clearly there’s a mental block there and I’ve tried to be patient and understanding but I struggle at times dealing with it.

I feel conflicted as although I don’t know if I want to stay where I am forever, I have a reasonably well paid job, a nice house and live in a nice area. I have lived round here for the best part of 20 years and moving back to my hometown would be a significant financial and emotional upheaval for both me and my DP. I do like my hometown and am not against ever moving back there if it felt right and my mum is not unpleasant , I enjoy her company but our relationship still feels one sided and I’ve realised there’s still not a lot of give and take and it’s part of the old well worn pattern. She has missed out on huge chunks of my life and I have been left to go it alone.

Getting my mum to visit me and share the load is like pulling teeth and she’s been fobbing me off for almost two years since her last visit here, it seems it’s always down to me to visit. In the last few years I have been over there a lot due to my grandmother being poorly and my mum needed practical support which was fine but now I am feeling burned out with it and would like some reciprocity which doesn’t seem to be forthcoming. I understand living nearer to family is important to strengthen relationships because I realise the distance does make it harder but I am reluctant to uproot my entire life for someone who isn’t pulling their weight and there is no compromise on anything. Mum has let me down several times recently - promised she’d visit and then made excuses when I asked about it, and point blank refused to come and meet me halfway in London when I needed to get nans ashes sent there as part of her final wishes, amongst other things. She doesn’t seem to appreciate or empathise with the strain this causes or how her issues and lack of flexibility affects me even though I have bluntly told her.

I was strongly considering at one point and looking into moving closer but recently have gone very cold on the idea. DP is supportive of us moving but for now thinks I should drop the rope with mum and see what happens. Just wanted other people views and wondering AIBU to pull back from this.

OP posts:
Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 25/05/2025 09:26

First instinct is she needs a carer. Physically and mentally.. Don't sacrifice the life you have forged on your own.... Trust me she will take you right back to the negative feelings you had growing up.
Ime.
Same boat except the uni part... Been nc best part of my adult life now.
No regrets.

MauraLabingi · 25/05/2025 09:28

So in summary, your mum was a poor parent, has recently apologised and your relationship has improved slightly, but now she's emotionally blackmailing you to move away from the life you love so you can become her carer, when she never cared for you properly?

Hmm.

Put it this way. My mum, who is absolutely lovely, would never ask this of me. Because she is not selfish. Even though she cared for me wonderfully, I don't 'owe' her care, because it was she who chose to raise a child. I will help her as I can, without sacrificing the life I've built for myself. That is how it should be, and because she is a loving parent that is what she wants to happen.

BunnyRuddington · 25/05/2025 09:28

I’m so sorry that you’ve been so neglected by your DM.

I have a very similar DM and in your shoes i would stay where you are. Like you say, you have a good job and live in a nice area. I assume you’d be leaving behind your friends too?

I mean this with kindness but I think you might need some more therapy. You still seem to be seeking that close Mother Daughter relationship that your DM doesn’t seem capable of sustaining.

If your DM is anything like mine then the only reason she’d want me near is to care for her as she ages.

Like you say she’s not saved or made any plans for her old age, only she has, she’s planning on you giving up everything and doing it for her.

I had some therapy around what to do when the one person who should have cared for you didn’t and now expects care from you themselves.

Its a hard place to be but think very, very carefully before giving up things you love for her benefit, because moving will not benefit tou in the slightest Flowers

TrolleySong · 25/05/2025 09:31

You’d be crazy to move somewhere you don’t want to for the sake of trying to shore up a relationship with someone who has never been in any way an adequate parent.

Marianwallace · 25/05/2025 09:31

You say you have DP. What do they think about the idea of moving half way across the country ?

arcticpandas · 25/05/2025 09:32

No. Just don't do it. You will definitely regret it.

WonderingWanda · 25/05/2025 09:32

I agree with the first poster, she is just trying to manipulate you for her needs, she's worried she won't have anyone to care for her. Of she was really that interested in pursuing a better relationship with you she would make more effort to come and see you. It sounds like she's always been quire selfish and put her needs above yours. I don't think you will benefit from this move in the way you would like it won't make you closer.

LightDrizzle · 25/05/2025 09:34

I think it’s dawned on your mother that she hasn’t trained up anyone to do for her what she did for her own mother and she’s looking to remedy that.

She’s been a poor mother to you but if you move near her, she going to expect you to do everything for her; physically and emotionally, and in your shoes I’d resist that with every ounce of my being. I wouldn’t go NC, unless she gets insanely demanding and abusive, I’d remain kindly and help out occasionally where I could in an emergency but that’s the lot.

I think if you were to move closer you’d regret it enormously.

howshouldibehave · 25/05/2025 09:39

I think it would be insane to give up everything you have and go back home. You will be signing up to be her carer.

BunnyRuddington · 25/05/2025 09:41

Some more therapy might help you decide why you’re still chasing the kind of relationship you want with your DM and just how much you’re willing to sacrifice.

My own DM isn’t capable of maintaining loving relationships. She waxes lyrical about by DF since he has died but the truth is she made his life a living hell.

I see her usually once a week for half an hour and that is only because my DF asked me to keep an eye on her.

Work out how much you’re willing to do for her, if anything. You could go NC or maybe a phone call once a month?

I ask my DM a lot if questions about who she’s seen, what she’s been up to and let her waffle in for 30 minutes or so. She’s not interested in me or my family and rarely asks any questions which suits me just fine.

Through the wonderful MN I learned all about “grey rock” and it’s helped me for years.

Landlubber2019 · 25/05/2025 09:51

I don't think you should be moving back to your home town.

I think you need to be realistic with your expectations. Your mum was a young single parent with mental health issues. She has never travelled and I suspect this brings her great anxiety. Whilst she was emotionally neglectful in parenting you, she did support and encourage you to get a university education and broaden your horizons. Unfortunately in moving so far away, it does make it restrictive for her to meet you and whilst you gave suggested compromising meeting in London, this a capital city and probably unachievable in light of her mental wellbeing.

I would be making efforts to visit, be specific to manage her expectations but as to relocating, this is not something to entertain as was a full time carer for your grandmother and now looking to fill the void in her life with you.

rubicustellitall · 25/05/2025 09:56

OP this post is going to sound really mean and I am sorry but I don't know how else to say it. So my advice is Enough now. Now is the time to know surely your mother is never ever going to be the mother you need or want her to to be. Now what you do with that is entirely up to you but in my view you can either live well and build the kind of life that is successful for you or you can continue to be a victim. I know which one I would choose. You will not loose anything by choosing you because due to circumstances you never had anything to loose in the first place. Time to let go and focus on your own happiness in my view.

thepariscrimefiles · 25/05/2025 09:57

Your relationship with your mother may have improved in recent years, but she is still thinking selfishly about her own needs and not yours, which has been the pattern since you were a small child.

You are happy and settled where you are and you have said that moving back to your home town would be a financial and emotional upheaval purely for the benefit of your mum.

She is hoping that you will provide the same support for her as she did for her mum and that is completely unreasonable. She was a very poor mother to you throughout your childhood and you don't owe her anything.

Stay where you are and reduce the frequency of your visits, if it feels too much. Concentrate on your life where you live now and your relationship with your partner, as they are the things that make you feel happy and cared for. Your mum has never made you feel like this.

Shrewsbury247 · 25/05/2025 09:59

100% do not do this, you are still seeking that love and acceptance from your mum, you’re never going to get it, make your peace with that and continue to live the life you have built.

Your mum is trying to manipulate you, set you up as her carer when the time comes. Ask yourself what kind of loving caring person would ask you to up end your life and the lives of your children to suit them…..caring people don’t do this.

BunnyRuddington · 25/05/2025 10:02

Just wanted to add that your DM can ask anything she likes. It doesn’t mean you have to even consider it never mind comply.

MoreHairyThanScary · 25/05/2025 10:02

agree with other posters she’s sizing you up as a carer, she did this for her mother and is expecting the same from you- despite giving very little to you!

For context my mum and I live opposite ends of the country ( think North of Scotland to the far SouthWest) we see each other approx 2 times per year but maintain really regular contact with messenger, FaceTime and phone calls. I know what’s happening in her life day to day and she keeps up with mine and my kids. You don’t have to live next door to each other to maintain that closeness. My mum moved away when my kids were small ( to support my sister who really needed her support) but my kids are closer to her than to my mother in law who lives 40 mins away, probably because of the effort she puts into the relationships.

Don’t be sucked back to where you grew up unless you really want it, if you want to move find somewhere that both you and your partner love that works for you both, a move is not going to change the relationship with your mum

diddl · 25/05/2025 10:03

I don't think you should move back.

Could she not travel to you even with her husband?

InterruptingRabbit · 25/05/2025 10:06

Maybe I’m just a bitch, but I wouldn’t consider this to be a dilemma, just an immediate no. She wants a carer, not a relationship with her daughter.

Silvertulips · 25/05/2025 10:06

I fee so sorry for you and this situation.

DD moved away for Uni and we have all been over to see her term time and she comes back here - I pay her airfares - because we want her here and miss her when she’s away.

I would travel the earth for my child.

I would never ask them to look after me in old age - I doubt she’s much older than me! 50’s?

Dont do it - look after yourself. You won’t get what you are looking for .

Snickersnack1 · 25/05/2025 10:07

Ask yourself, what do YOU want?
Given that she is how she is, and you can’t change her. Do you want to see more her and have a greater presence in your life?

I think one important thing that you (and maybe she too) needs to remember is that ‘improving the relationship’ doe not mean ‘getting the other person to change’. You sound a bit in your post as though you’re still deep down wanting her to mother you and and get over the anxiety and travel and do more for you and generally be the mother you wish that she was.
Entirely understandable, but not realistic.
If you want the relationship to grow, can you accept her and love her as she is?

The other thing to think about are the other pros and cons of moving. Think about job opportunities, housing options, transport links etc. If you do move, don’t move just for your mum, because there is the potential for resentment there. Move for you, to a place that even should your mum not be present in your life, would still be a good move for you and your partner.

Maybe it will be to your hometown, but it doesn’t have to be, maybe the best place for you would be a town nearby, or even an hour or two’s drive away.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 25/05/2025 10:09

No. You can stay in touch with her without living close by.

Moving close by won’t fix your relationship - what happened happened, so she won’t get the closeness she’s after even if you do.

Be supportive from a distance, get on with your life.

BunnyRuddington · 25/05/2025 10:10

InterruptingRabbit · 25/05/2025 10:06

Maybe I’m just a bitch, but I wouldn’t consider this to be a dilemma, just an immediate no. She wants a carer, not a relationship with her daughter.

Well if you are then so am I Grin

pinkdelight · 25/05/2025 10:11

MauraLabingi · 25/05/2025 09:28

So in summary, your mum was a poor parent, has recently apologised and your relationship has improved slightly, but now she's emotionally blackmailing you to move away from the life you love so you can become her carer, when she never cared for you properly?

Hmm.

Put it this way. My mum, who is absolutely lovely, would never ask this of me. Because she is not selfish. Even though she cared for me wonderfully, I don't 'owe' her care, because it was she who chose to raise a child. I will help her as I can, without sacrificing the life I've built for myself. That is how it should be, and because she is a loving parent that is what she wants to happen.

This nails it. She's not changed into some good mother with your best interests at heart. I think you'll regret moving back there and never get what you need from her but will get a lot more dilemmas that you don't need. Prioritise yourself.

Hadalifeonce · 25/05/2025 10:16

Do not do it OP, she is looking forward to the time when you will become her carer.
You have a life where you are, enjoy that life. If you want to visit your DM, fine; do not be guilted into it though. She can visit you, she chooses not to.

CrackSpackle · 25/05/2025 10:20

@realist123 please please do not allow yourself to be emotionally blackmailed or guilted into moving. My grown children live in Canada and we have a very close and meaningful relationship, as we talk on video all the time and make an effort to stay connected. This bit “she says it is impossible for us to have a meaningful relationship living at her distance we do” and her telling you that she “secretly felt hurt” about you choosing to live far away is nothing short of emotional blackmail and thinly veiled guilt-tripping. She will never be the mother you needed, and uprooting your life for her is something you will regret deeply. Get some good books on boundaries and love her from a distance.