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Dilemma - mum wants me to move closer

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realist123 · 25/05/2025 09:20

’m almost 40. For context, my mum and I have had a complicated relationship over the years, she had me young and my childhood was tricky. My dad was an alcoholic and though they separated when I was small my mum made poor choices - she met someone else after my dad but new stepfather was unpleasant and clearly did not want the package deal of a small child, they eventually got divorced.

There’s more to this story and a lot to put down here but I did not feel my mother protected me from these experiences and passively stood back. Growing up was a lonely experience and I spent large amounts of time alone. My grandmother was heavily involved in my upbringing and feel she was more like a mum figure to me at times.

looking back mum and I never had a ‘normal’ mother daughter relationship, or spent bonding time together just the two of us. I felt envious hearing peers talk about their mums and how supportive they were. I often feel she has prioritised her relationships with others, including the various step fathers I had as a child and I came second. She looked after my physical needs however when I later did therapy as an adult I realised in hindsight she had been emotionally neglectful.

I left home at 18 and ended up moving to the other side of the country to go to university, mum pushed me to go to uni as unlike her she wanted me to get a decent education and felt a degree would open up options for me. When I went to uni I had a breakdown and suffered with severe depression. Felt my mum wasn’t bothered, she rarely reached out to me and i ended up being the one to make the long journey for home visits, when I suggested she visit me she would fob me off and would never text or call. I felt lost as an adult and no surprise that I got into relationships with friends/partners who were very self centred and narcissistic and took more than they gave.

I decided to settle where I was and started to feel resentment that I was the one making all the effort. Mum visited me only once for my graduation for two days but was on edge and anxious the whole time and wanted to get back home and thought about going back home early despite my being hurt over it. I tried to be understanding but it really got me down as it took the shine off what should have been a special occasion for me.

When I went into therapy I started seeing things differently and realised I hadn’t had a lot of empathy from her and I ended up pulling back from mum and dropped the rope to see if she would step up - the end result was we didn’t speak and ended up estranged for around 4-5 years though she would still send cards at Christmas and my birthday. We eventually resumed contact as she was involved in a serious car accident about ten years ago which she was lucky to survive- fortunately she made a full recovery, then over time our relationship gradually improved.

Over time mum has reflected on things, she’s become less obnoxious and our relationship is better than it used to be. We’ve had some honest conversations and she partly acknowledges things have been difficult for me, though there is still a bit of denial on her part. She apologised for not getting it right with me growing up which meant a lot. I have tried to be gracious and understanding and don’t hold grudges as I accept parents aren’t perfect. I’m more concerned with the here and now.

Last year my grandmother who lived near to my mum passed away. Another long backstory to this but in a nutshell my mum was my grandmothers full time caretaker both emotionally and in her later years physically when she went into a care home with dementia the last few years of her life. My mum was very devoted and enmeshed with my grandmother and my nan has always relied heavily upon my mum emotionally and otherwise.

Since nan has passed away I think my mum has been reflecting and has regrets. She keeps saying she wishes we lived closer and confessed to me last year that she secretly felt hurt that I chose to leave home so far away all those years ago which was new to me and has strongly hinted about me moving closer to her as she says it’s impossible for us to have a meaningful relationship living at the distance we do. When I point out that she rarely makes the effort to come and visit she maintains that it was me who chose to move away and I could have stayed and settled there if I’d wanted to which I suppose is a fair point.

There’s no question of her moving to be near me as she hasn’t got the financial capability to do so having never really worked or planned ahead, also her and my stepfather would not want to leave the area. Mum has lots of hangups and issues in general with anxiety. She won’t go willingly to many places and hasn’t ever really been on holiday even within the UK, She hasn’t been abroad since I was small. Clearly there’s a mental block there and I’ve tried to be patient and understanding but I struggle at times dealing with it.

I feel conflicted as although I don’t know if I want to stay where I am forever, I have a reasonably well paid job, a nice house and live in a nice area. I have lived round here for the best part of 20 years and moving back to my hometown would be a significant financial and emotional upheaval for both me and my DP. I do like my hometown and am not against ever moving back there if it felt right and my mum is not unpleasant , I enjoy her company but our relationship still feels one sided and I’ve realised there’s still not a lot of give and take and it’s part of the old well worn pattern. She has missed out on huge chunks of my life and I have been left to go it alone.

Getting my mum to visit me and share the load is like pulling teeth and she’s been fobbing me off for almost two years since her last visit here, it seems it’s always down to me to visit. In the last few years I have been over there a lot due to my grandmother being poorly and my mum needed practical support which was fine but now I am feeling burned out with it and would like some reciprocity which doesn’t seem to be forthcoming. I understand living nearer to family is important to strengthen relationships because I realise the distance does make it harder but I am reluctant to uproot my entire life for someone who isn’t pulling their weight and there is no compromise on anything. Mum has let me down several times recently - promised she’d visit and then made excuses when I asked about it, and point blank refused to come and meet me halfway in London when I needed to get nans ashes sent there as part of her final wishes, amongst other things. She doesn’t seem to appreciate or empathise with the strain this causes or how her issues and lack of flexibility affects me even though I have bluntly told her.

I was strongly considering at one point and looking into moving closer but recently have gone very cold on the idea. DP is supportive of us moving but for now thinks I should drop the rope with mum and see what happens. Just wanted other people views and wondering AIBU to pull back from this.

OP posts:
BetterWithPockets · 25/05/2025 10:21

If YOU (and your DP) decide you want to move back to your home town at some point — because that’s what YOU both want — then great.
But don’t do it because your DM wants you to…

JudithOnHolidayAgain · 25/05/2025 10:23

This sounds all about her needs and not about your needs. The death of her mother has made her realise she won't have that support from you.

Some people are best kept at a physical distance!

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 25/05/2025 10:39

As other pp's have said, she is lining you up to be her carer in her old age.

Don't sacrifice what you have in order to make her life easier. Let's face it, she certainly never did that for you, and she's got a cheek to expect this from you.

Nominative · 25/05/2025 10:50

It seems mad to leave your job, home, friends etc purely for the sake of being near to your mother, particularly given the circumstances you describe. Don't do it.

LAMPS1 · 25/05/2025 10:55

Your mum feels hard done by. And is running scared that there’s nobody to do for her what she did for her own mum. She’s trying to get that sorted by setting you up and into position.
She has cared for her own mum for years and they were close. Her mum was selfless, dedicating herself to family and caring for you, her granddaughter.
But your own mum was selfish towards you.
The caring pattern stopped with your mum. You aren’t close and you have felt the pain of than for years.

The answer is not to move home to be near her.
The answer for now, is for your mum to step up and be the mum you have always needed. It’s so very easy these days to be really close to family on the other side of the world.
Get her set up with modern technology and see how much she really wants a close relationship.

Thelostjewels · 25/05/2025 10:56

OP it seems her getting to you is more about anxiety, I'm sure you have but can you work out how to get her too you? Taxi? Buying her train ticket? Meeting half way?

She sounded damaged herself and not able to cope with a child however she's amazing for being self reflective and trying.she said she wants hurt you moved away but did she ever understand why?

TrolleySong · 25/05/2025 10:57

Nominative · 25/05/2025 10:50

It seems mad to leave your job, home, friends etc purely for the sake of being near to your mother, particularly given the circumstances you describe. Don't do it.

Yes. It’s not entirely clear why you’re even considering it, OP. She’s not visiting you, sure, but the solution to that isn’t moving close to her, surely. It’s accepting that she’s not the mother you wish you had, and has never been, coming to terms with that, and visiting her as and when you feel like it, but not uprooting your life in the hope of a more fulfilling relationship with someone who seems to have lots of issues and very little self-awareness.

It seems fairly clear to me that the relationship would continue to be frustrating and unsatisfying if you moved back, that she would continue to be unavailable, inflexible etc, and that your current resentment would be hugely magnified because you had uprooted your life for her sake.

EnterFunnyNameHere · 25/05/2025 11:11

MauraLabingi · 25/05/2025 09:28

So in summary, your mum was a poor parent, has recently apologised and your relationship has improved slightly, but now she's emotionally blackmailing you to move away from the life you love so you can become her carer, when she never cared for you properly?

Hmm.

Put it this way. My mum, who is absolutely lovely, would never ask this of me. Because she is not selfish. Even though she cared for me wonderfully, I don't 'owe' her care, because it was she who chose to raise a child. I will help her as I can, without sacrificing the life I've built for myself. That is how it should be, and because she is a loving parent that is what she wants to happen.

Lots of very sensible posters here but I think @MauraLabingi has nailed it to be fair.

The fact you've said you're not against moving to your home town if it felt right suggests that you know this isn't the case - so don't do it. I would follow your partners advice and drop the rope.

rookiemere · 25/05/2025 12:17

People try and dress it up and say what an honour it is, but caring for an ailing DP is a pretty shit job. I do what I can because my DOs are fundamentally decent people and I wouldn’t leave them stranded. Your DM has a warped idea of caring, thinking it goes up the way, whereas the most important caring job anyone can do is bringing up their own DC well.

You don’t owe her this and when care is needed, if social services get a whiff that a relative is about and female to boot, they will do nothing.

Keep your job, your DP and your current life. Visit sometimes, but do not move.

WaltzingWaters · 25/05/2025 12:27

She’s still being selfish and not thinking about what is best for you.

Ilady · 25/05/2025 13:14

I have a friend whose mother is similar to yours.
A number of years ago my friend had a work contract that was due to finish. Her mother then promised her a few thing's and as a result my friend moved back to her local area. The promised things never happened. My friend was left to deal with the fallout of this and has had to deal with several other issues in the past few years.
Her mother will moan if she is asked to do certain things. She complains about the cost of living despite having a good pension and savings. She also refuses to listen to advice and has been verbally nasty at time's to my friend.

A few months ago my friend ended up caring for her mother for several weeks due to a health issue. After this my friend decided she has had enough. She is making plans to change jobs within the next 12 month's for more income and so she won't be as available for care in the future.

My friend and I have seen several friends and family members looking after elderly parents and it's hard both physically and mentally doing this along with holding down a job.

After seeing what my friend has had to deal with over the past few years I would not move near your mother.
The reality is that your mother had to help your grandmother when she got older and wants the same for herself in time. You have tried for years to have a relationship with her but she hardly visits you and has made very little effort with you for year's.

I would not give up my job, friends, home ect to move near her and possibly have higher housing costs on a salary similar or lower than what your on currently. You also have a partner and they need to be considered here also.

I think that you can keep in contact with your mother, see her when it suits you. I would see if you can get her to make changes to her home to make it better as she ages ect.

Purplecatshopaholic · 25/05/2025 13:23

Don’t do it op. You will never have the relationship you want, or deserve. She wants a carer. Im really sorry - stories like this are very sad and I hope you are ok.

Cheese55 · 25/05/2025 13:35

rookiemere · 25/05/2025 12:17

People try and dress it up and say what an honour it is, but caring for an ailing DP is a pretty shit job. I do what I can because my DOs are fundamentally decent people and I wouldn’t leave them stranded. Your DM has a warped idea of caring, thinking it goes up the way, whereas the most important caring job anyone can do is bringing up their own DC well.

You don’t owe her this and when care is needed, if social services get a whiff that a relative is about and female to boot, they will do nothing.

Keep your job, your DP and your current life. Visit sometimes, but do not move.

It's not true that social care will do 'nothing'. We wouldn't do shopping but will arrange a care package for personal care , relative or not

Duvetsse · 25/05/2025 13:36

Absolutely not.
Do not do it.
You will bitterly regret it.

I have never ever heard or read of anyone who moved back home in circumstances like yours to be anything but full of regret.

Do not do it.

This is about her having a skivvy, carer.
Not your job after all these years.

realist123 · 25/05/2025 14:05

Thanks everyone for the replies- some really interesting and thought provoking replies so far. It’s good to see the general consensus is don’t do it, that is the way I am thinking but wanted other views. She talks about wanting to be a normal family but despite repeated invitations to both her and my stepfather they have never come down together, he is similar to her and refuses to travel - only my mum has been twice in the last 5 years since I bought my first house. I have offered lots of compromises - buying her a coach ticket, driving her back home as she felt anxious, all of that.

I have no kids it’s just me and partner whose amazing close small family have sadly passed away so we are kind of loners. As for friends I did have a circle of ‘friends’ but slowly realised over time I was always putting in the work and they weren’t actual friends and had to let quite a few go as they were selfish and takers. So have a lot less friends now and sometimes feel quite lonely but I know that’s something only I can change. The thought of reciprocal friendships is a weird concept to me!

It hadn’t occurred to me about mum wanting me to be a carer for some reason, my mum is mid fifties and still fairly young, looks after herself and keeps pretty healthy physically but of course one day that is likely to change. I did ask another friend of mine who is a mum to two teenage boys she’s devoted to, her opinion as a mum and she said exactly the same as a lot of posters here, that she would travel the earth to see her boys regardless of where they lived and also losing my nan has made her think about getting older and now she’s got a void in her life she wants me to fill it and maybe have someone around in her later years for caring.

I wanted to get as many perspectives as possible so hearing all these has helped. She definitely struggles with self awareness and seems to think my moving there would be easy as pie for me and lacks insight as to how difficult that would actually be. She also lacks self awareness and cause and effect and has implied I am living in the past for having reservations about being nearer to her - it’s not about living in the past it’s that her past behaviour has influenced the dynamics now. If she was making the effort more and genuinely wanted to connect with me I think I’d probably consider moving there ultimately but she isn’t. Feels a bit like she plays games with my feelings - after nan died she got some inheritance from her and she said she would use the money to buy herself a motorbike and travel over to see me more, also she suggested going on holidays and day trips with me as she said she needs to conquer her fears and wanted to spend time with me so I thought she was really making an effort and respected that. She more recently said she’d come and see me at some ‘point’ but hasn’t specified when so feels like another empty promise.

None of these has come to fruition and given her past track record i suspect she’s talked herself out of it - a common theme with my mum over the years, making grand statements and then never following through. I think will stay put for now, step back, and maybe accept that’s the way things are going to be.

OP posts:
MoreChocPls · 25/05/2025 14:09

She’s one selfish shotty mum - sorry! Can’t imagine treating my kids like she treated/treats you. Don’t move back for her, you’d be crazy too. Her agenda is as always, her first. You’ll end up being her carer and your relationship will worsen. You do not owe her anything.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 25/05/2025 14:16

Would it be easier for your mum to move to you? If so ask her to. Not easy to find two new jobs.

realist123 · 25/05/2025 14:21

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 25/05/2025 14:16

Would it be easier for your mum to move to you? If so ask her to. Not easy to find two new jobs.

It would be a lot easier and if I am honest would be my preference but she won’t due to not having the finances and also the personal inclination to move - both her and my stepdad will not budge from where they live - so the onus unfortunately would have to fall on me to move there if I wanted to be closer.

OP posts:
WhingeInTheWillows · 25/05/2025 14:23

I feel like I can hear you saying “I want a ‘proper’ mum” with every sentence you write. You didn’t have the relationship you needed as a child and it really doesn’t sound like you will have it as an adult. I wouldn’t move if I was you.

fluffiphlox · 25/05/2025 14:24

Just say no. A half-decent parent wouldn’t have these expectations.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 25/05/2025 14:27

Another saying do not move!
I've had DC live all over the world and have always travelled to see them. This is because I love them and want to spend time with them. Your mum is trying to manipulative you so you can be her carer in future. Sorry, you reap what you sow.

Jujujudo · 25/05/2025 14:27

Lots to pick apart here, not least that you sound like such a lovely person who has had a shitty time of it. Firstly, you do not owe your mother anything. I’d say the same to my own kids! You owe it to yourself to live your life, find happiness and invest in your own needs. We feel a sense of obligation to have to take care of our aging parents, and I understand that. But if it means moving, and then being her eventual carer then you are in no way obligated to do so. Whether you feel she deserves it or not. I’ve spent my entire married life playing second fiddle to my husbands mother.. he has 7 siblings but he insists that he must be responsible for her and it’s destroyed our relationship because while I’m supportive, I’m also resentful.
You should encourage your mother to put money aside for a carer that she pays to look after her. Don’t move, don’t do it to yourself. You’ve had therapy and made some kind of peace with your past, but I am pretty certain that your mum hasn’t changed and will revert back to emotional neglect/abuse as she ages.
Please put your own needs as a priority and don’t feel guilty about not being close to her.

AlorsTimeForWine · 25/05/2025 14:28

MauraLabingi · 25/05/2025 09:28

So in summary, your mum was a poor parent, has recently apologised and your relationship has improved slightly, but now she's emotionally blackmailing you to move away from the life you love so you can become her carer, when she never cared for you properly?

Hmm.

Put it this way. My mum, who is absolutely lovely, would never ask this of me. Because she is not selfish. Even though she cared for me wonderfully, I don't 'owe' her care, because it was she who chose to raise a child. I will help her as I can, without sacrificing the life I've built for myself. That is how it should be, and because she is a loving parent that is what she wants to happen.

This is what I came on to say pretty much verbatim.

DO NOT DO IT

Jujujudo · 25/05/2025 14:29

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 25/05/2025 14:27

Another saying do not move!
I've had DC live all over the world and have always travelled to see them. This is because I love them and want to spend time with them. Your mum is trying to manipulative you so you can be her carer in future. Sorry, you reap what you sow.

Absolutely. But also, even if she had been an amazing mother, it still doesn’t mean that she owes her anything! I would hate for my children to have to put their lives on hold to take care of me!

BunnyRuddington · 25/05/2025 14:35

My own “D”M also craves a family life, close Mother/Daughter relationship and will comment how she would like that but has never actually done anything positive to cultivate that kind of relationship. She sounds pretty similar to your “D”M.

She sounds pretty similar to your “D”M.

I can understand you wanting that closeness, especially if your DP no long has his family. I really don’t think that you’re going to get it from your “D”M.

It sounds as though I’m very close in age to her and I too would travel over hot coals to see my DC.

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