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Keir Starmer went to private school

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Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 07:57

AIBU to be shocked that Keir Starmer went to private school? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. So he enjoyed an excellent education which increased his social mobility and then wants to bring down the system that helped him, even when they gave him a 100% bursary so that his parents didn’t have to pay the fees?

This is from wiki:

Starmer passed the 11-plus examination and gained entry to Reigate Grammar School, which at the time was a voluntary-aidedselective grammar school.[1][12] The school converted into an independent fee-paying school in 1976, while he was a student. The terms of the conversion were such that his parents were not required to pay for his schooling until he turned 16, and when he reached that point, the school, by now a charity, awarded him a bursary that allowed him to complete his education there without any parental contribution.

I only found out about this today when I was googling the school for another reason and looked up the alumni. What a hypocrite. You didn’t hear about this in the election during all his “my father was a toolmaker” speeches.

Bursary - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bursary

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Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:36

Coffeeishot · 21/05/2025 08:34

Yes "we are in this mess" because the majority of parents can't afford or don't want to pay private businesses to educate their children that's definitely it !

State school parents are subsidised by private school parents. To suggest the opposite is absurd. You have been sold a pup and don’t even realise it. Useful idiots comes to mind.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/05/2025 08:36

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:19

I’m not sure that’s quite the win you think it is. We have objectively the worst government in living memory. It feels like an awful social experiment that has gone badly wrong and we all suffer as a result.

Worse than the absolute shower we had in charge from 2010 to 2024? Really? Have you forgotten about the huge cuts to public services in the name of austerity, the debacle of the Brexit referendum and its aftermath, the failure to keep pandemic planning up to date, the disastrous but mercifully brief premiership of Liz Truss?

mindutopia · 21/05/2025 08:36

I went to private school my entire life from nursery through secondary. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m a lifelong Labour supporter and a high earner. For one, I didn’t have a choice about what school I went to anyway. I was 3 when I started. But I 100% support policies aimed at evening the playing field for everyone, even if as a better off person, they may not benefit me directly. I don’t deserve inheritance loopholes to bank more money while my neighbour the window cleaner gets screwed.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 21/05/2025 08:36

theworldsacrazycrazymess · 21/05/2025 08:03

Most of the cabinet went to private schools.

There are labour MP's who said the bill was necessary and fair, who sent their kids.

Maybe they don't object to private schools after all, just want them to return to the very elite members only club

The vast majority of cabinet members were educated in state schools. Just 8% (2/25) attended fee paying schools. This reflects the percentage of the general population who are educated privately.

www.kcl.ac.uk/news/starmers-state-schooled-cabinet-is-unusually-reflective-of-britain

okydokethen · 21/05/2025 08:37

He is allowed to have a different view to his parents. I imagine his own experience of private education has shaped his thought process.

faerietales · 21/05/2025 08:37

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:34

Abhorrent - inspiring disgust and loathing, causing or deserving strong dislike or hatred.

I think that’s being kind to him and his party unless of course children don’t matter to you in which case you probably have bigger issues to address rather concerning yourself with semantics.

Do you not have a job or a hobby you can occupy yourself with?

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:38

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/05/2025 08:36

Worse than the absolute shower we had in charge from 2010 to 2024? Really? Have you forgotten about the huge cuts to public services in the name of austerity, the debacle of the Brexit referendum and its aftermath, the failure to keep pandemic planning up to date, the disastrous but mercifully brief premiership of Liz Truss?

Miles worse. It’s not even close.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 21/05/2025 08:38

Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 08:06

Actually he could have left at sixth form. But he chose to stay.

Absolutely. I'm with you, OP. I want my politicians to have cemented their political views by the time they're 15.

Some people want politicians to experience things, consider them in the wider context that age and wisdom bring, and to then if necessary change their mind based on better information. But no! I agree with you. It's much better if they stick to the views they had as a child and to never waver. Off with his head!

Obeseandashamed · 21/05/2025 08:38

Doggymummar · 21/05/2025 08:01

It's not exactly Eton, is it?

Most private schools aren’t Eton though and they’re the ones being hit by the VAT addition.

Coffeeishot · 21/05/2025 08:38

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:36

State school parents are subsidised by private school parents. To suggest the opposite is absurd. You have been sold a pup and don’t even realise it. Useful idiots comes to mind.

Okay then you keep telling yourself that. I won't I won't be interacting with you any more.

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:39

faerietales · 21/05/2025 08:37

Do you not have a job or a hobby you can occupy yourself with?

A neat sidestep out of a losing debate.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 21/05/2025 08:39

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:39

A neat sidestep out of a losing debate.

You making base assertions with nothing to back them up is hardly a debate.

Changed18 · 21/05/2025 08:40

theworldsacrazycrazymess · 21/05/2025 08:03

Most of the cabinet went to private schools.

There are labour MP's who said the bill was necessary and fair, who sent their kids.

Maybe they don't object to private schools after all, just want them to return to the very elite members only club

For information

news.sky.com/story/amp/state-or-private-school-the-education-backgrounds-of-the-new-cabinet-13175125

Emilysaltandpepper · 21/05/2025 08:40

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:39

A neat sidestep out of a losing debate.

Apparently @Drizzle6183 is a senior board director on a massive salary

according to another of this posters posts

MumCanIHaveASnackPlease · 21/05/2025 08:40

You know the government are doing a good job when things apparently the stickiest form of mud the Tories have to sling at them.

MatildaMovesMountains · 21/05/2025 08:40

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:36

State school parents are subsidised by private school parents. To suggest the opposite is absurd. You have been sold a pup and don’t even realise it. Useful idiots comes to mind.

And until very recently, private school parents were subsidised by state school parents via the VAT exemption. For years and years.

treetopsgreen · 21/05/2025 08:40

Actually he could have left at sixth form. But he chose to stay.

FGS

skippy67 · 21/05/2025 08:41

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:31

Have you got Stockholm syndrome?

Yeah, I've got Stockholm Syndrome.

Hdpr · 21/05/2025 08:41

mindutopia · 21/05/2025 08:36

I went to private school my entire life from nursery through secondary. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m a lifelong Labour supporter and a high earner. For one, I didn’t have a choice about what school I went to anyway. I was 3 when I started. But I 100% support policies aimed at evening the playing field for everyone, even if as a better off person, they may not benefit me directly. I don’t deserve inheritance loopholes to bank more money while my neighbour the window cleaner gets screwed.

Same. I am privileged, we are high earners and left wing. I really don’t care where Keir went to school. But it is a far cry from Eton churning out Tory prime ministers

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:41

Coffeeishot · 21/05/2025 08:38

Okay then you keep telling yourself that. I won't I won't be interacting with you any more.

Facts hurt? The maths is irrefutable. Retaining ignorance is not something to be applauded. Labour rely on useful idiots who don’t look beyond the disingenuous headlines.

Dangermoo · 21/05/2025 08:41

Interesting that Stanley Johnson was a relevance to Boris' actions but when it comes to Starmer, his parents' choices can be discounted.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 21/05/2025 08:42

Dangermoo · 21/05/2025 08:41

Interesting that Stanley Johnson was a relevance to Boris' actions but when it comes to Starmer, his parents' choices can be discounted.

False equivalence.

faerietales · 21/05/2025 08:42

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:39

A neat sidestep out of a losing debate.

I’m not sure you know what a debate is.

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:43

MatildaMovesMountains · 21/05/2025 08:40

And until very recently, private school parents were subsidised by state school parents via the VAT exemption. For years and years.

Absolute nonsense. Do you believe everything Labour tells you without carrying out even the most cursory fact check?

The subsidies from private school parents to state parents is huge. Without that state parents will end up paying higher taxes.

Dangermoo · 21/05/2025 08:43

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 21/05/2025 08:38

Absolutely. I'm with you, OP. I want my politicians to have cemented their political views by the time they're 15.

Some people want politicians to experience things, consider them in the wider context that age and wisdom bring, and to then if necessary change their mind based on better information. But no! I agree with you. It's much better if they stick to the views they had as a child and to never waver. Off with his head!

Some people want their politicians to practice what they preach. Yes, that's you Diane Abbott to whom I refer.