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Keir Starmer went to private school

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Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 07:57

AIBU to be shocked that Keir Starmer went to private school? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. So he enjoyed an excellent education which increased his social mobility and then wants to bring down the system that helped him, even when they gave him a 100% bursary so that his parents didn’t have to pay the fees?

This is from wiki:

Starmer passed the 11-plus examination and gained entry to Reigate Grammar School, which at the time was a voluntary-aidedselective grammar school.[1][12] The school converted into an independent fee-paying school in 1976, while he was a student. The terms of the conversion were such that his parents were not required to pay for his schooling until he turned 16, and when he reached that point, the school, by now a charity, awarded him a bursary that allowed him to complete his education there without any parental contribution.

I only found out about this today when I was googling the school for another reason and looked up the alumni. What a hypocrite. You didn’t hear about this in the election during all his “my father was a toolmaker” speeches.

Bursary - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bursary

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Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:30

Coffeeishot · 21/05/2025 08:22

Oh have a word with yourself "abhorrent* my god !

Maybe I value children’s education more than you do. No wonder we’re in such a mess if you think like that.

reesespieces123 · 21/05/2025 08:30

Some of the current cabinet send their kids to private schools now. What's your point?

Emilysaltandpepper · 21/05/2025 08:30

He is to be judged for the decisions his parents took?

OP, I think you need to pause and think before posting

Dangermoo · 21/05/2025 08:31

Criticising the messiah won't go well for you OP. Straws will be clutched.

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:31

skippy67 · 21/05/2025 08:25

We have objectively the worst government in living memory.

Now you're just being silly. Either that, or you're only 10 months old...

Have you got Stockholm syndrome?

Emilysaltandpepper · 21/05/2025 08:31

Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 08:10

My husband comes from very humble roots and worked his socks off at his comprehensive school to go to an excellent university. He is a classic case of social mobility so I do believe that everyone should be given a chance in life. But then not trash that leg up afterwards.

That’s your husband

what’s your background Op?

derxa · 21/05/2025 08:32

NowYouSee · 21/05/2025 08:27

I don’t think we should judge politicians for the education choices their parents made for them. Whether it was Eton or the only local secondary which is underperforming.

That didnt apply to Boris Johnson.

SapphOhNo · 21/05/2025 08:32

Nice try OP

Try a thread about Brexit and the new EU trade deal.

LavenderBlue19 · 21/05/2025 08:32

Do give it a rest, OP. This is well known already (did you only just become interested in politics?) and no-one would leave a good school they were happy at just because it became private but they didn't have to pay fees.

Private schools are a luxury - most people aren't even close to being able to afford them.

Emilysaltandpepper · 21/05/2025 08:32

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:31

Have you got Stockholm syndrome?

are you prone to laughable hyperbole in RL?

CantStopMoving · 21/05/2025 08:33

GoingOverToTheDarkSide · 21/05/2025 08:11

And yet it’s completely fart to disrupt the education of thousands of kids with a mid year VAT change (now discovered via an FOI request to be intentionally timed for maximum disruption)?

That’s the bit that is important in this situation and the bit that makes me dislike him the most

children like him who were caught in the change to independent status had their fees paid so not to disrupt their education

When his son was doing his GCSE’s he went to that flat in London so as not to disrupt his revision

but all children this year were fair game and they just let them impose the Vat mid year and consequences were irrelevant. Disruption to the children was the punishment to make a political point. I think it was unforgivable. I don’t have a problem with the VaT on schools fees in principle but it should only have been phased in from starters in year 7 and not those already at school so as to have the same terms that he got.

HPFA · 21/05/2025 08:33

Not this rubbish again!

My partner went to that school in the year above Keir. He lived in a mobile home park - many of his friends were from council houses.

I don't agree with the selective system but when comprehensive schools didn't exist you didn't actually get an opt out - grammar or secondary modern it was. Going to a grammar is no more showing approval of the system than going to a secondary modern.

Even if it was private that would have been a decision made by his parents, not him. There is no obligation on any child who was privately or selectively educated to defend those systems when they're an adult.

When did politics become about just screaming absolute nonsense rather than actually having some kind of reasoned discussion? Any thread on politics seems to have its quota of people just repeating the same mind-numbing garbage over and over again!

Summerhillsquare · 21/05/2025 08:33

Keep rummaging in that barrel OP.

Dangermoo · 21/05/2025 08:33

SapphOhNo · 21/05/2025 08:32

Nice try OP

Try a thread about Brexit and the new EU trade deal.

Why don't you try that thread and leave the OP to this one.

Coffeeishot · 21/05/2025 08:34

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:30

Maybe I value children’s education more than you do. No wonder we’re in such a mess if you think like that.

Yes "we are in this mess" because the majority of parents can't afford or don't want to pay private businesses to educate their children that's definitely it !

Jeezitneverends · 21/05/2025 08:34

Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 08:06

Actually he could have left at sixth form. But he chose to stay.

Did you have a say over which school you went to? I certainly didn’t

MatildaMovesMountains · 21/05/2025 08:34

Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 08:06

Actually he could have left at sixth form. But he chose to stay.

Was he a senior Labour politician at 16?

EarthlyNightshade · 21/05/2025 08:34

Asking4afrend · 21/05/2025 08:06

Actually he could have left at sixth form. But he chose to stay.

Is it possible that he didn't know then that he was going to be prime minister?

I went to a private school, if I was prime minister, I'd be supportive of the VAT changes as well.

Drizzle6183 · 21/05/2025 08:34

faerietales · 21/05/2025 08:25

I think you need to borrow a thesaurus.

Abhorrent - inspiring disgust and loathing, causing or deserving strong dislike or hatred.

I think that’s being kind to him and his party unless of course children don’t matter to you in which case you probably have bigger issues to address rather concerning yourself with semantics.

treetopsgreen · 21/05/2025 08:34

He went to a school that turned private.

CantStopMoving · 21/05/2025 08:34

Emilysaltandpepper · 21/05/2025 08:30

He is to be judged for the decisions his parents took?

OP, I think you need to pause and think before posting

But current children are being punished for decisions their parents took.

EsmeSusanOgg · 21/05/2025 08:35

TheaBrandt1 · 21/05/2025 08:00

It started as a state school but turned private while he was there. What was he supposed to do leave in protest?

Indeed. Also as a child his schooling choice would have been determined by his parents. Not him.

Again, first comment nails the situation.

HPFA · 21/05/2025 08:35

reesespieces123 · 21/05/2025 08:30

Some of the current cabinet send their kids to private schools now. What's your point?

Name them please.

DisapprovingSpaniel · 21/05/2025 08:35

This was a desperate arguement the first 500 times it was raised.....

Hwi · 21/05/2025 08:35

I don't think it is connected in any way - remember decency on legs that was Tony Benn?

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