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AIBU?

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Is he a genuine friend it is he manipulating me?

86 replies

Openhandsy · 19/05/2025 03:17

I've become really good friends with this guy I met a few months ago, and I truly admire and respect him. He and I have had a really brilliant and wonderful time together. While we come from different backgrounds – my parents have achieved a lot professionally, and I've also been fortunate in my own career, whereas his family background involves a lot of criminality – this has never been an issue for me. I've never judged him for his family's past, nor have I ever commented on it to him. In fact, I've actually found his perspective really interesting and have been so impressed by everything he's achieved through his own efforts, despite a more challenging start. However, he has recently started making comments that suggest he thinks my parents' achievements are just down to luck, which feels dismissive.

Initially, it was crystal clear that our relationship was a friendship, and I've even reiterated this a few times. However, I am becoming increasingly concerned that he may have developed romantic feelings for me, which I absolutely do not reciprocate, and I worry about inadvertently leading him on.
Initially, I even found it quite lovely that we seemed to connect on a deeper level, sharing ideas and often having similar turns of phrase – it felt like we were really on the same wavelength. However, more recently, I've noticed a pattern where it sometimes feels less like a natural understanding and more like a direct echo of things I've just said.

For instance, our ideas of a typical weekend are quite different. I might enjoy playing tennis and then visiting an art exhibition, whereas his preference is usually watching football and having a barbecue with his friends. In general, I have a real interest in experiencing different cultures, traveling, and exploring diverse foods. It feels like his experiences in these areas might be more limited; for example, he considers a barbecue to be quite an adventurous outing. These differences in our backgrounds and what we've been exposed to sometimes feel quite significant.

More recently, a couple of things happened at an event we both attended that have really thrown me. Firstly, I had a pleasant conversation with a very attractive gentleman there, and he admired a small, unique item I had with me. He borrowed it briefly and returned it to me in pristine condition. Much later in the evening, my friend also asked to see the item, held it for a short period, and then handed it back to me to put directly into my bag. When I got home, I was shocked to find it was quite badly broken – the damage was severe and would have required significant force, certainly not something that could have happened accidentally in my bag on the way home.

Following this incident, I once again tried to gently reinforce that our relationship is a friendship. His response was to say, "Why do you keep mentioning that? Of course, it is!" which made me feel like he was either completely oblivious to my concerns or deliberately avoiding the topic. It feels impossible to address a potential issue when the other person acts as if it doesn't exist.
These recent incidents, particularly the broken item and the strange dynamics at the event, have made me question some of the earlier aspects of our friendship, including the mirroring of ideas and expressions. While at first, I took this as a sign of our connection, I'm now starting to wonder if this mirroring is genuine or if it's a deliberate tactic. Could he be doing this to make me feel closer to him than he actually is?

This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly.

I’m confused by this turn of events. I did try to discuss the miscommunication at the event, but he wasn't receptive.
AIBU to feel really hurt and confused by all of this? Given the differences in our backgrounds and the recent strange occurrences, is there a way to navigate this and potentially salvage the friendship when open conversation seems difficult? What would you do in this situation?

OP posts:
Boreded · 19/05/2025 03:56

What a weirdly written post.

GarlicPile · 19/05/2025 04:02

The mirroring you've described is very superficial - you don't share much in terms of interests and values. Coupled with the 'weird dynamics' and the surreptitiously broken item, I think you're right that his perceptions of your friendship and his aims are a long way from your own. Sounds like it's run its course.

BaguetteLady · 19/05/2025 04:21

@Openhandsy What would you do in this situation?

Honestly? I would run.

chilling19 · 19/05/2025 04:28

The beginning = love bombing. Now his true colours are emerging as he realises you are not interested in a romantic relationship. He is not your friend and the put downs/damages will increase. If you can’t bring yourself to walk away yet, just take a dispassionate look at his behaviour and when all becomes clear, run as fast as you can. Good luck.

CalicoPusscat · 19/05/2025 04:29

You haven't known him long - if alarm bells are ringing then take a step back.

It's a very flowery post

SueblueNZ · 19/05/2025 04:32

@Boreded The OP has written very eloquently. Maybe you are not used to eloquence.
To your question, OP. I would edge myself out of the friendship by putting gradually more space between your meet-ups. I think he has proven who he is. Of course he would never admit to breaking your treasure, even if you raised it with him. But you know (and I know) that he vandalised that item; why else would he want to put it into your bag rather than into your hand.
I think he is playing you. Do you feel he would turn nasty if you were to finish the friendship?

ChaToilLeam · 19/05/2025 04:34

I get the feeling that he is full of simmering resentment towards you.

Flipslop · 19/05/2025 04:41

Sounds like what was admiration and respect for you initially maybe has turned into envy and resentment.
Go with your gut, you don’t need to compile a list of hard evidence to back up your theory, just note how this person is making you feel.
id be getting myself out of this situation before it potentially turns nasty given that he is ok with damaging your belongings already

SaltedCaramelIcedLatte · 19/05/2025 04:43

It is not very clear from your OP! There is something that doesn't sit right with you, so distance yourself from this friendship and move on!

DoloresDelEriba · 19/05/2025 04:45

Is this AI? Or ND OP. Very strangely written.
if it’s real avoid this man. He’s not nice.

101Alsatians · 19/05/2025 04:45

'Sustained oustanding quality?' Odd thing to say. Are you sure you don't have feelings for him? You're giving him an awful lot of headspace.

Springadorable · 19/05/2025 05:16

He doesn't sound like a great friend, or even very interesting. I'd just stop talking and meeting up.

CalicoPusscat · 19/05/2025 06:10

It does sound like you're very different people with your interests and behaviour. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it's not.

If he did deliberately break your item instead of dropping it without you noticing or being heavy handed, run. You haven't got much to lose as you don't know him well.

It's disappointing when a new friendship doesn't work out though.

Agix · 19/05/2025 06:23

I don't think breaking your stuff means he fancies you.

Mirroring you perhaps, but there are other reasons people mirror.

You've not said anything that makes me think that you need to spend more time dwelling on this or actually do anything about it. It seems like an utter non-issue that you're blowing up in your head. Maybe get him to replace the broken thing?

Dolamroth · 19/05/2025 06:28

It's hard to understand what you get out of this. He doesn't sound like an outstanding friend. He just sounds like a typical man of a certain age. He doesn't seem to have much respect for you.

Just cut him off, the sooner the better.

whynotmereally · 19/05/2025 06:33

It sounds like initially he was agreeing with you to create common ground. That’s usually done when you find someone atractive/are keen to impress.

The broken item could have been an accident but it’s very odd surely he would know that you would know it was him?

You haven’t known this guy long, you’re not romantically interested, he’s been ambiguous with the truth and broke something of yours and didn’t admit it. I’d back away from the friendship.

nomas · 19/05/2025 06:41

he considers a barbecue to be quite an adventurous outing.

This made me smile wryly.

AlorsTimeForWine · 19/05/2025 06:43

Dolamroth · 19/05/2025 06:28

It's hard to understand what you get out of this. He doesn't sound like an outstanding friend. He just sounds like a typical man of a certain age. He doesn't seem to have much respect for you.

Just cut him off, the sooner the better.

This in spades

Fascinated to know what the broken item was but ignoring that...
Why, instead of saying you broke X it cost Y you need to replace it, did you reiterate you aren't romantically interested?

The level of contact seems high for just friends so weird behaviour from both of you. His behaviour is weirder though. I'd be distancing myself.

SparklyGlitterballs · 19/05/2025 06:45

You mention he held your item in his hands for a short time. Were you watching him with it? If it would take significant force to break it so badly how did he manage that if he was only holding it? Do you think he dropped it?

You do write very eloquently, with unusual phrasing (for MN anyway), which gives me the impression you have benefitted from a high standard of private education or you're from a higher social class. I too think the earlier mirroring may have been your friend trying to forge a connection. Maybe step back a bit from the friendship and see him less often, if you don't want to phase him out completely.

smallstitch · 19/05/2025 06:50

I’m confused how you showed him an item that he handed back to you, and you put it in the bag, but are claiming was severely damaged? Yet you didn’t notice until you got home?

MoreChocPls · 19/05/2025 06:56

Strange but I’d drop this relationship as you’re from different worlds and want different things. Could turn ugly - it has started to if he broke the item.

2ndbestslayer · 19/05/2025 06:57

"This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly."

You've known him 'a few months'?? You don't share any of the same interests. You think he has developed feelings for you.

Just end the friendship already.

ChickenEggChicken · 19/05/2025 08:21

2ndbestslayer · 19/05/2025 06:57

"This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly."

You've known him 'a few months'?? You don't share any of the same interests. You think he has developed feelings for you.

Just end the friendship already.

Yes, the way you write about a very new friendship which, at only a few months old, can’t be more than very initial, even if you’re spending vast amounts of time together, is very over-invested, and frankly more than a bit odd. If you like weekends involving tennis, art and eating foreign food, and he likes football and barbecues, surely that’s not an issue in most friendships, unless you regularly spend the entire weekend together, bored with one another’s choices? In which case it’s not this astonishing meeting of minds you describe.

You write very unclearly about this ‘event’ you attended — are you actually saying you think he was jealous of you talking to an attractive man about your ‘item’, so he deliberately broke it, because this is his way of expressing feelings for you?

TasWair · 19/05/2025 08:27

Another one to say that this post is very oddly written.
You focus a lot on his background and the disparity between your families. This seems like a weird context to be writing in your post. Why is it relevant? You do sound like you feel like you're a bit better than him culturally to be honest...

DelphiniumBlue · 19/05/2025 08:33

There are not many circumstances in which men and women can be friends without one of them wanting more.
Its very rare indeed that someone you’ve only recently met genuinely does just want to be your friend and nothing more, especially given the way you describe the relationship- it sounds very much like the beginning of a romance. If you don’t want anything more then you should be pulling back in terms of frequency and type of meeting.
But the broken possession indicates that actually he has the potential to be dangerous. You may well be flirting with the idea of a bad boy, but maybe you don’t quite understand how this might play out. Stop playing games if you don’t want to be hurt.