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Is he a genuine friend it is he manipulating me?

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Openhandsy · 19/05/2025 03:17

I've become really good friends with this guy I met a few months ago, and I truly admire and respect him. He and I have had a really brilliant and wonderful time together. While we come from different backgrounds – my parents have achieved a lot professionally, and I've also been fortunate in my own career, whereas his family background involves a lot of criminality – this has never been an issue for me. I've never judged him for his family's past, nor have I ever commented on it to him. In fact, I've actually found his perspective really interesting and have been so impressed by everything he's achieved through his own efforts, despite a more challenging start. However, he has recently started making comments that suggest he thinks my parents' achievements are just down to luck, which feels dismissive.

Initially, it was crystal clear that our relationship was a friendship, and I've even reiterated this a few times. However, I am becoming increasingly concerned that he may have developed romantic feelings for me, which I absolutely do not reciprocate, and I worry about inadvertently leading him on.
Initially, I even found it quite lovely that we seemed to connect on a deeper level, sharing ideas and often having similar turns of phrase – it felt like we were really on the same wavelength. However, more recently, I've noticed a pattern where it sometimes feels less like a natural understanding and more like a direct echo of things I've just said.

For instance, our ideas of a typical weekend are quite different. I might enjoy playing tennis and then visiting an art exhibition, whereas his preference is usually watching football and having a barbecue with his friends. In general, I have a real interest in experiencing different cultures, traveling, and exploring diverse foods. It feels like his experiences in these areas might be more limited; for example, he considers a barbecue to be quite an adventurous outing. These differences in our backgrounds and what we've been exposed to sometimes feel quite significant.

More recently, a couple of things happened at an event we both attended that have really thrown me. Firstly, I had a pleasant conversation with a very attractive gentleman there, and he admired a small, unique item I had with me. He borrowed it briefly and returned it to me in pristine condition. Much later in the evening, my friend also asked to see the item, held it for a short period, and then handed it back to me to put directly into my bag. When I got home, I was shocked to find it was quite badly broken – the damage was severe and would have required significant force, certainly not something that could have happened accidentally in my bag on the way home.

Following this incident, I once again tried to gently reinforce that our relationship is a friendship. His response was to say, "Why do you keep mentioning that? Of course, it is!" which made me feel like he was either completely oblivious to my concerns or deliberately avoiding the topic. It feels impossible to address a potential issue when the other person acts as if it doesn't exist.
These recent incidents, particularly the broken item and the strange dynamics at the event, have made me question some of the earlier aspects of our friendship, including the mirroring of ideas and expressions. While at first, I took this as a sign of our connection, I'm now starting to wonder if this mirroring is genuine or if it's a deliberate tactic. Could he be doing this to make me feel closer to him than he actually is?

This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly.

I’m confused by this turn of events. I did try to discuss the miscommunication at the event, but he wasn't receptive.
AIBU to feel really hurt and confused by all of this? Given the differences in our backgrounds and the recent strange occurrences, is there a way to navigate this and potentially salvage the friendship when open conversation seems difficult? What would you do in this situation?

OP posts:
nopineapplepizza · 19/05/2025 08:36

This post really reminds me of the song “Common People” with the OP wanting to be the one who lives like them for a bit 🤷‍♀️

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 19/05/2025 08:39

Awrite there Lady Chatterley, you’ve really got yourself carried away with something here and I can’t work out if you’ve caught feels (despite your protestations), or you’re a bit carried away with the Lady Bountiful act (he goes to barbecues!) or you’re just enjoying some Main Character Energy, but you’re waaaay too invested in this friendship. I don’t feel the need to reassure my male friends that I don’t fancy them.

If you think I’m being mean, then just stop for a second and consider this: you really think he broke your object out of spite or jealousy, which has more red flags than a Mayday parade, but you’re continuing to give him your time and a whole lot of headspace. That’s silly. If your suspicions are correct then he is not a good man and you need to cool this relationship out of self preservation. It really is that simple.

GatherlyGal · 19/05/2025 08:39

I would be wary of this man OP. It's very hard to tell much from what you have posted but I think he might be manipulating you.

RealEagle · 19/05/2025 08:45

nopineapplepizza · 19/05/2025 08:36

This post really reminds me of the song “Common People” with the OP wanting to be the one who lives like them for a bit 🤷‍♀️

I agree

FortyElephants · 19/05/2025 08:48

It couldn't be more obvious that he wants a relationship with you. Men don't tend to hang about having intense friendships with women without a hope of a relationship. It's just not how they tend to relate.

DelphiniumDoreen · 19/05/2025 08:49

He’s not for you.

step back and cut contact.

ChickenEggChicken · 19/05/2025 08:49

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 19/05/2025 08:39

Awrite there Lady Chatterley, you’ve really got yourself carried away with something here and I can’t work out if you’ve caught feels (despite your protestations), or you’re a bit carried away with the Lady Bountiful act (he goes to barbecues!) or you’re just enjoying some Main Character Energy, but you’re waaaay too invested in this friendship. I don’t feel the need to reassure my male friends that I don’t fancy them.

If you think I’m being mean, then just stop for a second and consider this: you really think he broke your object out of spite or jealousy, which has more red flags than a Mayday parade, but you’re continuing to give him your time and a whole lot of headspace. That’s silly. If your suspicions are correct then he is not a good man and you need to cool this relationship out of self preservation. It really is that simple.

Yes, I have several close longterm male friends, and I don’t think I’ve ever ‘reiterated’ multiple times, to any of them, over a period of a few months, that I’m not secretly longing for them to rip my clothes off, and that it’s all platonic.

GatherlyGal · 19/05/2025 08:49

FortyElephants · 19/05/2025 08:48

It couldn't be more obvious that he wants a relationship with you. Men don't tend to hang about having intense friendships with women without a hope of a relationship. It's just not how they tend to relate.

Unless they want something else from them?

lousandjays · 19/05/2025 08:53

I am going to put this succinctly in your post there is a lot of red flags (him), over thinking and over investment (you).

FortyElephants · 19/05/2025 08:56

GatherlyGal · 19/05/2025 08:49

Unless they want something else from them?

Well that's true. Either way it's not her friendship he wants.

TheCurious0range · 19/05/2025 08:59

It reads like Jane Austen.
The mirroring etc is grooming, he wants something and given his insistence it's not a relationship it could be your money.
I've worked in criminal justice a long time, I've met plenty of eloquent and charming men, convicted for things you'd never believe if you met them in a social setting.

Ace56 · 19/05/2025 08:59

He sounds like your average bloke while you seem to be either neurodiverse (no offence), or just a bit naive and from a privileged background. Doesn’t seem like you two have much in common. I would step back from this ‘friendship’.

Theshallows1167 · 19/05/2025 09:02

How old are you both OP?

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 19/05/2025 09:04

Your post is a bit confusing as you said there was “mirroring” but I didn’t see any explanation/ description of what this mirroring looked like - can you elaborate with examples of mirroring?

You also said your friendship was outstanding but didn’t provide much evidence of that either. Do you have any examples to demonstrate why this relationship is so good?

If you think he fancies you then it’s better to cut contact with him. He may not be content with friendship and it’s unkind to keep going with a friendship with him.

If you think he broke your personal item out of jealousy / a desire to control you / hidden feelings of any kind - this is a huge red flag and very worrying. Reason enough to completely cut contact with him.

Rememberwhatthedoorknobsaid · 19/05/2025 09:06

Find some friends more suited to you

Nodlikeyouwerelistening · 19/05/2025 09:12

lousandjays · 19/05/2025 08:53

I am going to put this succinctly in your post there is a lot of red flags (him), over thinking and over investment (you).

This.

All sounds like such a faff for a short term “friendship”. He sounds like an oddball who probably wouldn’t say no to sleeping with you if you gave him half a chance. No matter how much you insist it’s never going to happen you are keeping him around like some kind of pet/emotional crutch/ pseudo boyfriend so of course he still has hope. I think you’ll find he won’t be so nice when he realises you want him as a surrogate boyfriend with all the emotional intimacy and none of the physical.

Cut him out. You are not right for each other. Go find a real boyfriend or a bestie, you can’t have the best of both worlds from one person.

Gundogday · 19/05/2025 09:13

It sounds like you bonded over something, became friends and enjoyed each others company, but now are discovering you have different interests. That’s fine. You can either continue and accept that you like different things, or just ease out of the relationship.

Not sure his manipulating you as such, but more you’re discovering more about each other.

S0j0urn4r · 19/05/2025 09:13

Def step back. It seems like an intense friendship.
I'd also question the value of the friendship if you don't feel able to have a discussion.

TallulahBetty · 19/05/2025 09:19

You both sound insufferable, tbh. Could be a (mis)match made in heaven!

tripleginandtonic · 19/05/2025 09:19

I don't get why you think he broke the item? Surely you'd have noticed when it was handed back to you. And if you didn't notice, then it could have been the other bloke or damage on the way hone in your handbag.
You seem full of yourself and how superior you are to him. Even to the extent that you insist on telling him you don't want a relationship over and over again.

pinkdelight · 19/05/2025 09:23

This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly.

This is so weird. You sound like an alien visiting planet Earth. He can't be the first human you've come across who enjoys football and bbqs rather than tennis and art galleries at the weekend. None of this warrants such deep analysis of social strata and if it was such an outstanding friendship, you'd just be enjoying it, not having to dissect it and reiterate its status. If it's real, ease off and probably move on. Course you can take it 'lightly', it's only been a few months.

ChickenEggChicken · 19/05/2025 09:23

Gundogday · 19/05/2025 09:13

It sounds like you bonded over something, became friends and enjoyed each others company, but now are discovering you have different interests. That’s fine. You can either continue and accept that you like different things, or just ease out of the relationship.

Not sure his manipulating you as such, but more you’re discovering more about each other.

Yes, it’s entirely natural, given that they’ve only known one another for a few months, that they’re very much still discovering the basics about one another, and in this case, the OP seems terribly taken aback that her initial sense of their similarities turned out to be false, and that she doesn’t much like the person he really is.

Caligirl80 · 19/05/2025 09:25

Clearly you're concerned - which should be a red flag anyway. Love-bombing can be really easy to fall for. And narcs like to pursue kind/generous/forgiving people - they enjoy the control and what they can get away with.

Just back away from the friendship for a bit. Go on holiday, cut back on your social interactions etc etc. There are a lot of men who cannot fathom the notion that a woman would be nice to them but not actually attracted to them - sadly it may be the case that this guy is one of them.

TallulahBetty · 19/05/2025 09:25

You definitely studied sculpture at St Martin's college.

mepipesneedlagging · 19/05/2025 09:28

After 1 post AI has left the building folks.
Shame, I would love to have known what the broken item was 🤨

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