AIBU to think going to an RG university means absolutely nothing

[Butchyrestingface]

Never one to shy away from a challenge (even if it's a challenge to someone else).

So I went to a RG uni. I didn't even KNOW I'd been to a RG uni until about 15 years after the fact when I joined MN.

Thereafter I referred to it as having gone to a 'Russell Grant' university (bit confused).

AIBU in thinking RG unis are not the be all and end all?

Neither are Russel Group though!!!!! That’s exactly my point. The term RG is meaningless.

They really all don’t. Your snobby old boys club type will but most others don’t.

Your thinking is black and white and lacks nuance.

There are general rules and there are exceptions to the general rules. Most people can cope with this concept.

Right so RG unis are the be all and end all except when unis have a good reputation and aren’t Russell Group- ok then.🤣

This is what you said "Doesn’t stop several of them being in defect and in financial shit though does it."

I assume by 'defect', you mean 'deficit'.

Depends on the degree

Speaking from a recruiting place - it matters if you want to go into certain fields - banking, medicine, niche engineering etc. My own field is mainly RG - i dont agree with it necessarily - but it still happens.

No I did not say 'be all and end all' or equivalent. You are being absurd and missing the point, again.

Only on MN does everyone work in finance/law/tech and their lives revolve around 6 figure salaries, recruiter friends in big 4 firms, and making sure their DC's attend RG unis. The class system is alive and kicking!

Nope I think you are- again

I see that chip on your shoulder.

I wish you well, my friend.

I was replying to the poster who said “They receive three quarters of all university grant funding”
and simply pointing out that it doesn’t seem to make them financially stable.

I would not call it a class system but meritocracy.

I'm not convinced about engineering. Isn't it usually law, banking and finance who are snooty about non RG universities won't recruit university blind?.

DH used to recruit engineers and wasn't swayed by where the applicant went to university.

Are the old chip accusation

This is really weird.

Good employers are not ‘snobby’ - they are looking for the best candidates for their businesses. And as part of that, good employers do research on good universities and competitive courses. They will also care about diversity (because that is good for business).

Good employers - especially good graduate employers - can literally set up an employee’s career for life. It’s a big responsibility, and finding good people is something they take seriously.

I agree.

And the same posters think that anyone who doesn't aspire to work in careers where greed is good these sectors is lacking in ambition.

Hmm I really don’t think good employers discount excellent candidates from unis with a good reputation,or who have good experience that fits the role or from high scoring courses simply because said unis and courses aren’t on an outdated list most don’t give a shit about.

This was way back but I did my undergraduate at a non RG and my postgraduate at an RG.

They were so different! The RG had so much more going on in terms of clubs and societies. I would have had such a different experience doing a 3 year degree at an RG.

And, no. I don't have a chip on my shoulder. DD achieved a first in a STEM degree from an RG university and is now at another RG university studying a masters, but the snobbery on MN from certain posters is extremely annoying.

One poster who regularly posts on higher education threads once told me that DD's degree wasn't worth the paper it was written on because it wasn't from a top 10 university! Funnily enough DD walked into a job straight after graduating, then was offered her masters within 48 hours after being interviewed. (She had a gap two years working to save money for her masters).

I suspect these are the same posters whose privately educated DC are competing with DC with contextual offers from under performing state comprehensives for places at good universities. They complain that it isn't fair.

Many good employers also recruit university blind @BarleyMcGrew

I do know a major grad recruiter for the competitive schemes who did filter by RG unis, yes

There are no de facto RG unis. Because it is a self selecting private organisation, a university is either in or not. Bath and Loughborough are excellent unis but are not RG. RG was set up as a lobbying group. It doesn't automatically mean they are the best of the best although clearly if you have the power of a lobbying organisation to support in gaining funding, you will gain an advantage.

In the late nineties I remember talk of "red brick" unis rather than Russell group.
Unless I've just made that up.

St Andrews not good enough for your kids then?