To stop my son from presenting as Jewish at school

[Wonderberry]

I really wish this wasn't the case.

My son wants to wear his kippah (skullcap) at school. This is entirely his choice, and something that he has chosen to start wearing recently. He just wants to express his religious and cultural background.

Unfortunately, I don't feel like he would be safe to do so. I hate that this is where we are at currently in the UK, but I know it is the reality. He goes to a community school in London, and doesn't understand why he cannot wear his kippah at school. On cultural days, he also cannot share his culture either.

I feel so sorry for you. It sickens me that innocent people here are being attacked for their faith due to a war in another country where both sides have committed attrocities against each other. No one should be attacked for just existing. Please get the school on board.

I feel sorry for anyone of any culture or faith who is unable to express that. I also feel that its possible to be supportive of Jewish people whilst hating what the Israelis have done. Not all Jews support Israel.

But in my opinion I would ban all expressions of religion in schools - no headscarves or coverings, no veils, no turbans nothing. It has no place in our schools. I realise this would be unpopular as an opinion. but we are in a Christian country. if I was in a muslim country then I would expect to dress appropriately there. Religion is supposed to be about the love of God yet how many wars are fought under the banner of doing Gods will.

I agree as well. Which is why I am a fierce ally to Jewish people and will never stop calling out antisemitism

Anti Zionism is the concept that, unlike every other religion, Jewish people should not be entitled to their own state. A pretty antisemitic and worrying mindset.

Im so sick of people mentioning “Some Jewish people join the rallies” like it’s a gotcha. I know of a LOT more Jewish people terrified of being caught in a Pro Palestine protest and who can blame them with such anti Jewish imagery that seems to follow these protests. Not to mention the genocidal chants. The odd Jewish person being fine does NOT invalidate those who are rightly fearful.

Let's also remember it's not 'Israelis' - it's a government. I don't hate British people because I hated Boris Johnson. I hated that government (for example)

I also don't hate 'Americans'

https://chomsky.info/20200731/

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/exposing-the-weaponisation-of-antisemitism/

https://time.com/6977457/weaponizing-antisemitism/

https://www.jta.org/2025/04/18/united-states/jewish-students-alumni-decry-weaponization-of-antisemitism-across-country

https://contendingmodernities.nd.edu/global-currents/weaponizingantisemitism/

You didn't ask serious questions you made unsubstantiated accusations.

My daughters go to a Jewish school and the school instructs them not to wear visible uniform or Jewish clothing outside school. I never thought it would come to this but it has

Very very few Jewish people join the hate marches. And sadly there are always some people like that in every group

@mummymeisterCompletely agree.

I grew up in a strictly Catholic family. I never got asked my views on pedophile protests or Magdalene laundries, or demanded a what I think of these issues. Funny that.

Absolutely this.

Try going to a Palestinian rally holding posters of the hostages or with a poster saying Hamas are terrorists, or a dictatorship, and find out what happens to you.

These lies about Israel are a modern expression of anti semitism. Equating the government of the only democratic nation in the Middle East with a vile racist murderous terrorist organization just because that state is Jewish is disgraceful.

We’ve all seen the videos. People are physically attacked. And the police often either do nothing or arrest the antiterrorist protesters.

This is absolutely true. The child killer/ media manipulator/ arch capitalist/ arch communist racist tropes about Jewish people are very old indeed. They did not get made up by Hamas and their supporters

I did ask a serious question - what’s Israel got to do with a British child experiencing antisemitism? You haven’t answered. Strange really.

I find it rather amusing the source you linked to is a survey carried out by a Pro-Palestinain organisation with a rather dodgy background of insisting most accusations of antisemitism are false.

But you said you have resources that antisemitism is weaponised. Where are these resources please? BTW opinion columns and reports that are it peer reviewed don’t count.

Also: what’s your point?

Understand there’s a lot of internalised hatred pushed onto many Jewish people, a bit like when women express internalised misogyny.

I REALLY wish more people would understand the nuances of antisemitism. It’s different to any other kind of racism, and for example the trope that Jews are liars and play the victim is hugely damaging and is part of the reason Jews have been exiled and tortured and killed for millennia and non-Jews ignored it. Even doing this on a forum for mums is a small part of the damage being caused. I don’t know how these people sleep at night

I think we as individuals need to be very careful not to conflate (or appear to conflate) issues that are fundamentally unrelated. We need to avoid excusing or justifying (or appearing to excuse or justify) wrongs perpetrated against one group or individual by linking them to wrongs that may have been perpetrated against a different group or individual. We need to remember that two wrongs don't make a right.

We need to call out antisemitism, Islamophobia and all other forms of prejudice as and when we see them. That doesn't mean that we can't engage in legitimate criticism of national governments, protest movements, terrorist organisations or any other groups/individuals, but it does mean that we need to be precise with our language and careful that our criticism does not stray into hate speech or victim blaming of any sort.

And we need to show solidarity with the victims of antisemitism, islamophobia and all other forms of prejudice, as well as care and compassion for the innocent victims of terrorism and war, regardless of who they are and what their religion is.

Yes, the Gazan government is a terrorist dictatorship. Israel is a democracy with human rights for its citizens, including LGB citizens. Unlike in Gaza.

This thread is horrifying, and I'm Jewish. Yes, this is not just a Muslim problem. I know several schools where the school refused to take antisemitism seriously, and yes in a couple they justified it because of Gaza.

I'm no longer in London but if my children were in a non-Jewish school in London I would not be comfortable with them wearing visible Jewish jewellery or a kippah. Even if they went to Jewish school I'd have them take it off at the gate. Students have been assaulted and harassed coming to and from school.

You have completely misunderstood me. I am not attacking anyone whose posts I have read here and I don’t want to be attacked either.

You have missed the point quite spectacularly. It may best not to offer advice if you are unaware of the Antisemitism Jewish people face on a daily basis.
This is nothing to do with a school dress code.

Ukraine is a democracy that was attacked by an effective dictatorship ( Russia).

Israel is a democracy that was attacked by a terrorist dictatorship in a terrorist act of deliberate and calculated barbarity against Israeli citizens.

Its right that people support democracies attacked by dictatorships. Its shocking that people support dictatorships. There was an application in the UK for a pro-Palestinian rally WHILST the murders of Israeli Jews were taking place on October 7th. On October the 9th there was a rally in the UK outside the Israeli embassy celebrating the murders of Israeli Jewish children, women and men on October 7th, and burning the Israeli flag. Yes, that is shocking.

I can understand people supporting Palestinian civilians caught in a war, but not if they are not also supporting Israeli civilians murdered in acts of barbarous terrorism - which have not stopped. Hamas is still sending terrorists into Israel, as well as rockets..

So, no-one should excuse them with the oft repeated "Gaza" or "Palestine" as some sort of the excuse.
It's part of the problem.

100% understand that he does not want to hide his culture. Maybe he can reach out to see if there are other Jewish student hiding out at school? Tho not sure how …