To not be happy about paying this much tax

[Lovingthehamsterwheel]

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I just saw this new tax calculator that shows you how much tax you are paying in total, including all hidden taxes, council tax etc

For a Person on 75k a year, 44 percent of earnings go on tax.

10k of that is spent on welfare.

Am i being unreasonable to think this is absolutely a terrible time to be alive in terms of taxes in the UK. And it is no wonder higher earners are leaving the country.

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You are being utterly unreasonable.

Society is structurally unequal.

Those with more are not necessarily working harder and certainly not more deserving. Do you really believe the glorified barrow boys working in banking in London are more deserving than careworkers looking after the elderly and disabled?

A small segment of society should not get to hog the best of everything at the expense of everyone else.

A decent society contributes to ensure everyone is well cared for.

Wanting to hog a large amount of resources is pure selfishness. I know it's the American way to enrich yourself and fuck everyone else, but we are better than that.

Those that want to hoard wealth to the detriment of the majority of society are greedy, selfish, morally bankrupt and small minded.

Well I guess if hoarding greater and greater sums of money is the most important thing in your life then I understand why you'd give up the rest of it to concentrate on that.
I hear UAE is great for not expecting people to pay their way. Not so great for human rights though

dh’s employees earn far more than the living wage.. sorry to disappoint.

Again, we don’t “hoard” at all, a large percentage of dh’s annual income goes to charity.. rather than pay the bulk of it in tax and have no say, we’d rather choose where it goes ourselves.

So you make tax deductible donations because then you have some control over where your money goes, whereas with tax you have only the same say as everyone else (I.e. your vote). But despite this, there’s ’no point’ staying in the UK and you plan to move in a couple of years.

I honestly don’t get what your issue is.

It's much more than 44% if you take into account VAT. For people who have to spend every penny of their income that's a hell of a lot of VAT.

You think it's bad now, you should have been here in the 70s. High tax AND high interest rates. Total shit storm.

Our issue isn’t hard to understand. After being taxed over and beyond only to then be clobbered with inheritance tax, I’d rather be able to help my kids and make their lives easier.

You want to offset your private health care? What happens if you need to go to A&E?

I’m sure your kids lives are fairly decent if you’re in the top 0.1% of earners, but how do tax deductible charity donations help them?

Things don't have to be absolutely awful for people to choose something better do they?
You do get it really.

Absolutely not no - I said several times I think it’s great that the poster has the option. My confusion is that s/he’s portraying it as something they are being pushed into rather than a choice. That’s what I don’t get.

Tax deductible charity donations don’t help them, they benefit the charities. Not losing half their inheritance however, does.

Of course she gets it.. she just doesn’t like it.

It's easy to say it's a choice when it's not your money being taken off you. Feels rather different when it's you with the tax bill...

It doesn’t matter how it “feels”, it’s still a choice.

Jesus. If COURSE it's a choice. We all pay tax. If you're lucky enough to be in the top 0.1% of earners then that's great for you. If you want to move to a tax haven, that's fine. But personally I wouldn't uproot my kids and our whole lives just to pay less tax. Id rather stay with our friends and family, and pay our way.
And actually inheritance tax is unlikely to be paid on the first one million anyway. That much TAX FREE plus anything over that taxed is clearly going to be enough to set up your kids. So really this just snacks of greedy to me.

Pretty stupid to tell the actual contributors that how they feel doesn't matter, don't you think?

Moving country to lower your tax charge is a choice. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Charity donations offer tax reliefs to the donor.

Charities can cover a broad spectrum - eg some P/S schools claim charitable status, as do some 'think tanks' (although they can not be solely focused on political campaigning) .

I didn’t say that. I said feelings aren’t compulsion. Leaving the UK because you don’t want to pay tax is a choice. Nobody’s holding a gun to your head. If it wasn’t a choice every high earner would be leaving.

Far lower indirect taxes though.

And higher interest on a much lower mortgage due to far lower house prices, not to mention MIRAS tax relief on your mortgage.

I’ve given it a go, and it gives us a rate of 39% for our household - which is nonsense.

When I looked at the assumptions of tax, the council tax alone was at least £3k out.

We’ve all got a tax bill though, and while a higher earner’s might be bigger they still have more left. We all pay the same VAT on the products and services we buy. If it’s that miserable being a high earner, do something else. It all sounds very woe is me.

We don't all have a tax bill though do we. And if said tax bill is £5000, the public services in return probably seem like good value. If it's £50000. Not so much. Whether you think it's woe is me doesn't really matter. If the high tax payers feel they need to leave, that's bad for everyone else. Makes no sense to push the contributors out, whether it's technically a choice or overwise.

What could I possibly not like about it? We’re all faceless names on a message board, who likes or dislikes any of it?