To not understand why our species still exists

[Fragmentedbrain]

Why do people still keep creating more people what's that about

I mean I know it's not as bad as the before indoor plumbing times but we can't assume that will last long

I don't understand the impulse to make another soul experience this world

How do you interpret it then? How else can you take "I found it odder that people who are alive question it"? Who else would question it other than people who are alive? So there is only one meaning you can take from that to me. Please enlighten me on what they actually mean though. I've had this type of philosophical conversation before and it inevitably ends up with "why do you stay alive then" only in much more blunt terms, so forgive me for jumping to conclusions. Maybe people should explain what they mean better instead of making ambiguous comments that make little sense and can be interpreted in a bad way.

Because despite there being a LOT wrong with the world, there are also lots of positive and wonderful things going on. ‘Twas ever thus - there’s always been problems.

The reason the human race survives is that it also produces absolutely remarkable people who do amazing things to help it survive.

As for having kids, it’s not for everyone and both choices are perfectly valid. For me, it’s the single best decision I’ve ever taken, despite not being sure I would bother. It’s not easy, but gives me more satisfaction, joy and meaning than anything else I’ve ever done.

I’m amazed so many people have been brainwashed to think like this

Someone has done a right job on you @Fragmentedbrain to get you to believe you and your life are completely worthless

To paraphrase The Matrix

We're a virus. We will consume every available resource until we exhaust them all and die.

There will always be someone 'less well off' who will justify wiping out a species because they're hungry, or need the money, so extinction is inevitable, for them, and finally us when we run out of food.

Up until now humans were innovators, now we are apathetic as the declining birth rate in most developed nations demonstrates. We have stopped evolving and are on our way out unless something happens to challenge us - we’ve still got a few million years as long as the planet holds out so it’s not really a problem for now

i do think we are getting stupider so obvs that will sort some people out (you man walking in road looking at phone)

Where on earth did you draw that conclusion from

Eh? How did you get there?

On a grand scale the planet is screwed. But most people don’t live like that they live in their little family/community so life experience is completely individual.

That’s such a bizarre leap to make. They’re not advocating anything, merely saying they find a particular POV weird. Besides, the opposite of procreating isn’t suicide. It’s not procreating. You’re reading your own preoccupations into this.

stop doing drugs OP.

Everyone is different is the answer, it's fine to not want children and to find it baffling that people would choose to - it's a bit weird to not recognise that others have different views and opinions though!

Most people really do not think that deeply about it. Not even about what kind of life their future children will have or if they want to be here. For many years religion has encouraged people to be fruitful too and women have not had much choice or control over their own fertility.

As soon as women have more choice in a society birth rates go down. I honestly think when women get independence they think more about whether it is a good thing to have offspring.

It is though isn't it.
We get on with.it because we are here and we didn't get any choice in it.
One day when we are gone we won't even know we lived and who we were,
What's it all about,

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What an odd question. Our innate desire to have children is driven by biological imperative, as with all animals. Also, I'm mostly quite enjoying 'experiencing this world'. As are my (late teen) dc, I think. I don't remotely regret bringing them into the world.

I don't think people can help themselves. I do agree with you though. In some countries that have had civil war for decades or constant risk of drought or famine I do wonder, why on earth do people keep procreating and bringing children in to this situation? Non existent reproductive rights and lack of education is presumably the answer.

Yeah, it's not like men are driven to fuck anything that moves at all.

Add in religion too and society "who will look after you when you are old?" and the fact that many people think women should always want to have kids "because that is feminine". Social conditioning is not easy to escape! Conversely when women actually do have control they choose less children or none!

OK here's how I interpreted it. The poster was saying "you've had the chance of life why do you think others shouldn't?" Or perhaps "do you think you shouldn't have been born?"

Certainly not advocating suicide! I've no idea where you got that from!

Life is only pointless if you fail to fill it with any things that have a point for you.

Why would it matter how many people remember you when you are gone?! You'll be dead - you won't be able to care whether people remember you or not!

Its a natural human basic instinct to want to reproduce. It's why we exist.
If you don't have that that's fine but it's really not a strange thing to want to keep the human race alive.

I'd argue if you strip away society and conditioning what most people actually have is a desire to have sex.

The birth rate is actually going down in most countries especially where women have choice.

I always find it interesting when people question the point of having children or say they won't because of the state of the world, the environment or whatever.

But surely we all need babies to be born constantly otherwise who will be the Drs & nurses to care for us when we are 80/90? Who will produce the food we need to eat etc etc etc.

People often say it's selfish to have kids but isn't it selfish not to?

I thought this thread was going to be about the survival instincts of Neanderthal Man and now I’m disappointed