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To ask what punishment the guys who cut down sycamore gap tree deserve?

323 replies

JorgyPorgy · 01/05/2025 09:04

I hope those sick thickoes get a jail term but also hefty fine and lengthy community service , planting hundreds of trees . Punishment to fit the crime.
I think they’ve angered & upset so many people globally that they will have targets on their backs now.
That beautiful tree was 300 y o & would have lived hundreds more. Lots of new samplings can’t replace the carbon sink of a mature tree nor give out the oxygen it did, nor support the biodiversity it did. It’s so sad.

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Leafy74 · 01/05/2025 19:44

BIossomtoes · 01/05/2025 19:14

It fits the crime of destroying something unique, iconic and irreplaceable.

You've gone with vile. Fair enough.

Mama2many73 · 01/05/2025 19:47

SnackDealer25 · 01/05/2025 09:14

Why is it such a big deal that they cut the tree down? I’m not asking that in a rude wayI’m trying to understand why there is such a huge global upset and would love to understand the impact. And also why did they cut it? Was it just to be spiteful?

I think prision would be wasted on people like this as would educating them as they clearly don’t care. There should be financial punishments instead

The 'WHY' is what I can't get past,?
What makes 2 'grown' men decide to drive to the other side of the country in the middle of the night, with equipment they then have to lug across fields to cut down an iconic/globally loved tree for NO actual outcome?? Oh and then record yourselves doing it but deny its you??
I just can't fathom that out!

BIossomtoes · 01/05/2025 19:56

Mama2many73 · 01/05/2025 19:47

The 'WHY' is what I can't get past,?
What makes 2 'grown' men decide to drive to the other side of the country in the middle of the night, with equipment they then have to lug across fields to cut down an iconic/globally loved tree for NO actual outcome?? Oh and then record yourselves doing it but deny its you??
I just can't fathom that out!

I know. It’s unfathomable.

AsburyPark · 01/05/2025 20:09

Mama2many73 · 01/05/2025 19:47

The 'WHY' is what I can't get past,?
What makes 2 'grown' men decide to drive to the other side of the country in the middle of the night, with equipment they then have to lug across fields to cut down an iconic/globally loved tree for NO actual outcome?? Oh and then record yourselves doing it but deny its you??
I just can't fathom that out!

And one of them had a newborn! 12 days old I think, what goes through your mind to decide to leave your partner & 12 day old baby at home to go cut down a tree in the middle of the night.

emsmum79 · 01/05/2025 20:12

I have no personal connection to the tree but I think what they've done is awful. They've destroyed something beautiful for the pure fun of it.
They've taken a simple pleasure away just because they could.

JellyNellyKat · 01/05/2025 21:12

Prison

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 01/05/2025 21:18

Hundreds of thousands of trees to plant , preferably through the winter

JohnofWessex · 01/05/2025 21:48

Secure hospital?

DiscoBeat · 01/05/2025 21:53

Viviennemary · 01/05/2025 09:10

Personally I think it's a great fuss about nothing. It's a tree fgs. They aren't serial killers though you would think so the way the media are carrying on. Yes it's vandalism and there should be punishment.

I think you're in danger of agreeing with the OP.

JorgyPorgy · 01/05/2025 21:54

Id be surprised if they haven’t been sacked already from their jobs and taken a beating over this. They’ll be having to watch their backs wherever they go

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JorgyPorgy · 01/05/2025 21:58

Leafy74 · 01/05/2025 19:44

You've gone with vile. Fair enough.

A vile punishment to fit a vile crime by a pair of vile excuses for people

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Motherknowsrest · 01/05/2025 21:58

Short custodial. It was so brutal they deserve it.

Then being supported to do an environmental science GCSE and years of litter picking, tree and wildflower planting.

Itsjustgonenoonhalfpastmonsoon · 01/05/2025 21:58

KnittyNell · 01/05/2025 10:35

Bring back the stocks.

I like that. Oh the humiliation! What would you like to see thrown at them? I’d suggest a pile of rotten leaves, some tree bark. What about a quick swat with a tree branch a la Basil Fawlty. 😂

JorgyPorgy · 01/05/2025 22:01

Itsjustgonenoonhalfpastmonsoon · 01/05/2025 21:58

I like that. Oh the humiliation! What would you like to see thrown at them? I’d suggest a pile of rotten leaves, some tree bark. What about a quick swat with a tree branch a la Basil Fawlty. 😂

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BrightOrangeDahlias · 01/05/2025 22:05

Maitri108 · 01/05/2025 10:04

I don't think they should get jail. I think they should get three years community service where they plant trees, advocate for trees and tend areas for the National Trust.

Preferably wearing a fluorescent high-vis with "I'm the twat who chopped down the Sycamore Gap tree" emblazoned across the front and back.

BIossomtoes · 01/05/2025 22:05

JorgyPorgy · 01/05/2025 22:01

💩

Definitely.

PassingStranger · 01/05/2025 22:05

Sosigsandwich · 01/05/2025 10:16

I live locally to Sycamore Gap and it's a special place to many people... friends have got engaged, including a now widowed friend, ashes have been scattered there, it was a place of solace for many, a piece of history and a landmark. I think it was such a shock because it was so loved and to cut it down for no reason was such a vile unnecessary act. Sadly from what I've read about the trial they seemed to find it funny. They're grown men, I can't imagine the embarrassment of being in a relationship or related to one of them.

One of them had or has a partner and a baby at the time.

Fedupmumofadultsons · 01/05/2025 22:08

Let's fetch some perspective they cut down a tree yes it was a landmark but it's a tree one tree won't help carbon footprint .they won't get jail people who commit violence get petty sentences do they won't. But I do think they should be made to do community service in a tree planting environmentally forward looking place .maybe they may understand if explained

Pinkissmart · 01/05/2025 22:10

Namechangetheyarewatching · 01/05/2025 09:08

I think they should plant 1000 trees each.

Agree.

This, education and litter picking

Isittimeformynapyet · 01/05/2025 22:19

I'm sure someone's already suggested wooden stocks in the market square made out of sycamore. People could file past and heckle them every Saturday. It would be great for local businesses. They could do a tour around the country.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/05/2025 22:23

The courts will decide. Whipping up extra hatred on Mumsnet is unnecessary.

toffeeappleturnip · 01/05/2025 22:24

Namechangetheyarewatching · 01/05/2025 09:08

I think they should plant 1000 trees each.

. . . and water them for a year.

Any that die they need to replant, and so on until there are 1000 healthy 2/3 year old trees.

Spaceracer10 · 01/05/2025 22:26

If we were in medieval times I’d suggest cutting off one of their limbs so they can see what it’s like but since we’re not then it’s got to be prison time.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 01/05/2025 22:35

They are responsible for irreparable damage.
Really low, selfish act.
I hope that it is a deterrent for other idiots.

StormCloud52 · 01/05/2025 22:40

They haven’t been found guilty yet.

Where is the motive?