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AIBU?

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To be uncomfortable with partner staying on a woman’s sofa?

76 replies

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 12:40

Been with my partner for 2 years, living together for 1. Mostly perfect relationship, never had any issues and I do trust him. He doesn’t go out on nights out or anything like that (not that I’d mind if he did, just trying to add context). Overall I would say it’s a very healthy relationship.

He’s from a European country and all of his family live over there, he has no family over here except one cousin who he isn’t close to. About 5 years ago he met a woman who I will call Lucy at the gym. They both are interested in fitness and both have studied it, and are from the same country so they bonded. They pursued a friendship. Lucy was already in a relationship at this time. My partner said it was only ever platonic with Lucy and nothing ever happened. 3 years ago Lucy got pregnant and then her boyfriend left her so my partner supported her a bit with the baby. He is the godfather. I’ve met her a couple of times but we’re not particularly close.

A year ago, Lucy ended up moving to another country (different from their home country) and we’ve not seen her since but they keep in touch via text, mainly just updates on each others lives. She’s now got a new apartment and wants my partner to go over for a few days and she can show him around the city and spend time together etc. I was not mentioned.

Partner is considering going and I’m not comfortable. He’d be staying on her sofa. She only has a 1 bedroom apartment and she shares the bed with her toddler. They’d be going out for evening meals and I know she has a friend who she’s asked to have the child 1-2 nights so they can go out drinking for “old times sake” like they did before her pregnancy.

I’m uneasy about it. I do believe him when he said he’s never had sex with her before - maybe I am naive but having heard the full background of their friendship and the fact that they’ve mostly dated other people throughout the friendship, and having seen the dynamic of them together, I’m inclined to believe it. She also encouraged him with his relationship with me. However, I think it’s the principle of it, him leaving me to go and stay with another woman.

His argument is that I recently left him behind to go on a solo break to Spain. I had a week off work, some spare cash and fancied a trip away so went to Marbella for 4 nights to a spa hotel. I feel that this is different. Firstly, because he was invited. He declined to come as he didn’t want to spend the money (he’d recently had car trouble), but he encouraged me to go and have a nice time, which I appreciated. But the point is, I would’ve loved him to come and he’d have been so welcome, and he knew this. Secondly, I went solo to a spa hotel. Had I gone to stay in a male friend’s apartment, I don’t think he’d have liked it.

I’ve said to him that I’d never tell him not to go, but that if he goes he needs to accept it’s going to cause me anxiety and upset and he needs to be prepared to deal with the consequences of that. He said he could ask Lucy if I could come, but then I feel that would be awkward as she never mentioned me once in the invite. I know Lucy would probably feel that me being there would change the dynamic as they would no longer be able to converse in their native tongue and would have to speak English.

AIBU?

OP posts:
PatsFruitCake · 29/04/2025 13:28

I've got a few male friends who pre-date my relationship with DH, including one I dated casually for a while. However all of them also became friends with DH once we got together so I can't really imagine a situation where I'd visit one of these friends and DH wasn't also welcome to come too.

OP is there a reason why you didn't also become friends with Lucy? That's the thing that feels off about this situation.

Hamandpineapplepizza · 29/04/2025 13:28

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:27

I’ve said to him that I’d never tell him not to go, but that if he goes he needs to accept it’s going to cause me anxiety and upset and he needs to be prepared to deal with the consequences of that.

This is emotional blackmail...

Not really is it, it's just being honest.

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:28

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:27

I’ve said to him that I’d never tell him not to go, but that if he goes he needs to accept it’s going to cause me anxiety and upset and he needs to be prepared to deal with the consequences of that.

This is emotional blackmail...

No it’s not. I told him I’d be upset if he went. I’m communicating with him. It would be worse to act like I’m fine with it and then be upset when he’s about to leave.

OP posts:
HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:29

Hamandpineapplepizza · 29/04/2025 13:28

Not really is it, it's just being honest.

Really, it is

"Do what I want or I'll have bad emotions and might do something bad"

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:30

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:28

No it’s not. I told him I’d be upset if he went. I’m communicating with him. It would be worse to act like I’m fine with it and then be upset when he’s about to leave.

It wasn't the upset bit. It was the threat of what the consequences of your "anxiety and upset"

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:30

I asked DP why he feels I was excluded and he said “Lucy is a bit weird about relationships and doesn’t really take them seriously until someone has been together a few years.”

So I suppose because I’ve only been with DP 2 years I’m not worthy? I find it all odd.

OP posts:
VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:31

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:30

It wasn't the upset bit. It was the threat of what the consequences of your "anxiety and upset"

Me being upset and having concerns about the relationship would be the consequence. I wouldn’t start trashing the place or burning his passport! My wording was wrong there.

OP posts:
VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:32

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:30

It wasn't the upset bit. It was the threat of what the consequences of your "anxiety and upset"

Oh sod off, you don’t know me. I’d be upset which may harm the relationship, and that is what I told him.

OP posts:
Christwosheds · 29/04/2025 13:35

MattCauthon · 29/04/2025 13:12

I see both sides here. This is a long standing friendship that pre-dates your relationship and that is close enough he is godfather to her child. So while I udnerstand why you feel uncomfortable, I also think that either you trust that this friendship is just that - a friendship - or you don't. And if you don't, he has every right to be upset about that.

I agree with this.
Both DH and I have opposite sex friends of many years standing, so maybe that helps, but he wouldn’t mind me staying with a friend and I feel the same. I trust him, I don’t really understand this idea that men are always up for the opportunity to have an affair, either you trust each other or not. Surely a lack of trust is an issue in itself, not anything to do with his female friend.

Timetochange24 · 29/04/2025 13:36

Is it really that hard for a man and a woman to be friends? Presumably your dp is out and about all the time in places where women are present, and is able to employ healthy boundaries with them.

If a man was limiting who you could see, that would be seen as controlling behaviour and would be a red flag. How else is he meant to spend time with his close friend now she's moved to another country?

PatsFruitCake · 29/04/2025 13:39

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:30

I asked DP why he feels I was excluded and he said “Lucy is a bit weird about relationships and doesn’t really take them seriously until someone has been together a few years.”

So I suppose because I’ve only been with DP 2 years I’m not worthy? I find it all odd.

I think if you're living with someone it's serious and maybe DP should say that to Lucy.

I don't necessarily think your DP would cheat and there will be a small child there which changes the dynamics, I just think it's odd that you're not invited.

derxa · 29/04/2025 13:42

What a horrible situation. I would get rid of him OP. He doesn’t care how you feel.

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:42

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:31

Me being upset and having concerns about the relationship would be the consequence. I wouldn’t start trashing the place or burning his passport! My wording was wrong there.

Edited

You threatened consequences if he didn't do what you wanted

If you said that to me I'd be expecting you to send photos of you harming yourself, or getting a call that you'd tried to kill yourself or coming back to find the my stuff destroyed

nobodywantsit · 29/04/2025 13:43

I can understand your discomfort but I think it’s your issue and not his.

it’s an existing friendship and it sounds like there’s been plenty of opportunity for them to get together if they wanted. If she visited here, they could go out and get pissed and shag.

So I don’t think it’s ok to expect him not to go but it’s ok for you to have different boundaries and expectations.

You either genuinely accept he’s going and find a way to be ok with it or you need to end the relationship. It’s ultimately your choice. If I were him, I’d likely end it if I was given an ultimatum.

I do think he needs to prioritise a holiday with you next time though.

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:44

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:32

Oh sod off, you don’t know me. I’d be upset which may harm the relationship, and that is what I told him.

So you could give a reasonable response and then and aggressive one seconds after?

That's a bit worrying

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:45

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:44

So you could give a reasonable response and then and aggressive one seconds after?

That's a bit worrying

You’re projecting.

OP posts:
HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:46

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:45

You’re projecting.

I'm literally pointing out what you did...

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:47

HuffleMyPuffle · 29/04/2025 13:42

You threatened consequences if he didn't do what you wanted

If you said that to me I'd be expecting you to send photos of you harming yourself, or getting a call that you'd tried to kill yourself or coming back to find the my stuff destroyed

Do you know me better from a quick interaction on an online forum, than my partner who I’ve seen every day for 2 years?

didn’t think so.

OP posts:
nobodywantsit · 29/04/2025 13:48

VanillaCremeXake · 29/04/2025 13:47

Do you know me better from a quick interaction on an online forum, than my partner who I’ve seen every day for 2 years?

didn’t think so.

Honestly, I thought the same when I read that comment. You’ve clarified and it’s done with but it did sound threatening.

Smilesinthesunshine · 29/04/2025 13:48

I really don't think it is fair of him to put you in this situation. He should have told Lucy right from the start that you would only visit as a couple.

Starlight1984 · 29/04/2025 13:48

Hmmm. Tough one!

On one hand, they're old friends, he's helped her out, they've never had a sexual relationship and he's the godfather to her child. The money thing wouldn't bother me as 4 nights in a spa hotel in Marbella would have cost significantly more money than staying with a friend in your home country / city so that makes sense.

However I find it odd that you say she encouraged your relationship yet hasn't invited you and then said that can't take you seriously until you've been together a long time?!

My initial thought would be that she probably doesn't fancy him but more like she's relishing the thought of having her kind, lovely and helpful friend to herself for a few days to spend time with her and his godchild, giving her lots of attention and taking her out for drinks and nice meals...

I know when I was single many years ago (and especially if I had been through a bad break up!) I would gravitate to my brilliant male friends and just enjoy being in their company and knowing there were actually decent men around!

But yes it can get blurred and confusing so I would say you are right to be slightly concerned. Especially if she's deliberately excluding you....

TimeForTeaAndG · 29/04/2025 13:50

I think it's the length of time that would bother me more. A week rather than a weekend or even a long weekend. If they're in regular contact how much catching up is needed and how far away is she? Is it a very long flight with a day or so of jetlag?

TimeForTeaAndG · 29/04/2025 13:51

Also, she doesn't get to decide how serious your relationship is. Does she view him as reasonably single if less than a few years is not "serious" in her eyes?

Ladamesansmerci · 29/04/2025 13:51

I have a different perspective, but I'm a lesbian. My and my wife stay with friends and share a bed/sleep on the sofa with same sex friends when we go and visit them. We do this with friends who are queer/straight or etc, whatever.

I don't agree that cheating comes from opportunities. It's not hard to just...not cheat. Your clothes don't accidentally fall off and you have sex.

I think it does depend on trust.

Ratisshortforratthew · 29/04/2025 13:51

catsand · 29/04/2025 13:22

I disagree with a lot of the other responses - I think you’re being unreasonable. They have a long standing platonic friendship. Either you trust him, in which case it should be fine, or you don’t which indicates bigger problems in the relationship. You can feel however you feel but if you stop him going, either by insisting or by guilt tripping, I think he would be right to be very upset and question your relationship.

Agree with this. I went to stay with a male friend in another country when my partner and I had been together about a year, and I recently went travelling with another male friend. Both friendships pre-date my relationship by several years and if my partner gave me any kind of ultimatum I'd choose my friends on a point of principle more than anything else. My partner and I are both bi so I guess we should never go on holiday with friends of either sex?

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