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AIBU to think it's strange there's no discussion of latest baby food pouches news on here?

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parakeet · 28/04/2025 18:09

Maybe I've missed it.
Here's the BBC report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62j0l0gg4go

A toddler with blondey-brown hair sucking a pouch of baby food, which she is holding with both hands. She is wearing a burgundy top and dungarees.

Baby food pouches low in key nutrients, lab testing finds

Parents are being "misled" by marketing from leading baby food companies, experts tell BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62j0l0gg4go

OP posts:
25a · 29/04/2025 16:14

Unbeleevable · 28/04/2025 18:57

I’m not generally an idiot and I lived with a type1 diabetic for many years, so I did realise that the sugar content in some of these pouches is high. But I hadn’t appreciated how much the mineral and vitamin content can drop compared to home-cooked food.

As a working mum I did use pouches and toddler ready meals - usually if we were out and about or visiting family and maybe a few times a week at home dc might have a fruit pouch or a toddler ready meal.I feel really bad about it now, but at the time it didn’t feel like a terrible choice as long as I didn’t use them all the time and i figured it might be better than eating what I was cooking for dh and I (which might have too much salt in, or be too spicy, or not able to be “mushed up”.)

By the time ds2 came along I was more confident cooking (as dc1 was older I’d had a lot of practice) and dc2 was always less fussy than dc1. I can’t work out if that is because dc1 ate all these identically flavoured ready meals, so when she hit something that tasted different she was more likely to freak out.

It makes me really sad because Ella’s Kitchen appears to have amazing values, it’s hard to imagine that they are deliberately bamboozling parents who are trying to raise healthy kids who enjoy lots of flavours.

Ella Mills' family owns Sainsbury's. They are ultra wealthy and unfortunately, profits come before most other things for the ultra rich. It's no surprise that Sainsbury's stocked Ella's Kitchen products before anyone else did, and unfortunately, it wasn't just a business venture for the good of babies across the UK.

Notanyreason · 29/04/2025 17:01

25a · 29/04/2025 16:14

Ella Mills' family owns Sainsbury's. They are ultra wealthy and unfortunately, profits come before most other things for the ultra rich. It's no surprise that Sainsbury's stocked Ella's Kitchen products before anyone else did, and unfortunately, it wasn't just a business venture for the good of babies across the UK.

Ella’s kitchen is a different company to deliciously Ella?

25a · 29/04/2025 17:23

Notanyreason · 29/04/2025 17:01

Ella’s kitchen is a different company to deliciously Ella?

Oh yes, you're absolutely right

Bonbonvanilla · 29/04/2025 17:53

Are they sold as something different to jars?

Pouches didn't exisit when my DC were small. I did use jars very occasionally when travelling, but surely no-one really thinks any of these processed meals are as good as real homecooked food?

Didimum · 29/04/2025 17:58

I’ve seen two threads on this. I think you’ve just missed them, OP.

Didimum · 29/04/2025 18:06

Aren’t vast vast majority of babies and 1yr olds who have these pouches on a mainly milk diet anyway? As they say ‘food before one is just for fun’ and milk should be the main source of providing their key nutritional intakes. What is the value in saying they are only X% of daily intake when that’s the case?

BogRollBOGOF · 29/04/2025 19:15

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/15/ultra-processed-babies-are-toddler-snacks-one-of-the-great-food-scandals-of-our-time

I was surprised this article didn't get more reaction on MN.

Jars of baby food have been around for a long time. The pouches and baby snacks were relatively new when I was weaning my teenager.

They have their uses, particularly as a spare at the bottom of a changing bag so you know that there's something reliable and suitable to hand at any time. DS1 had food allergies, so we did need a safe, allergen-free option which got used a few times.

As an every days staple they would be bland, expensive and unstimulating for texture. For a small number of infants that struggle with weaning, bland and unstimulating is better than total refusal of solids, but for the majority, this isn't the ideal starting point.

BLW was a big buzz term at the time and I went along with this approach as it just made sense. I had to cook for myself (& DH) anyway, so serving up food that we were eating, or parts of it was easy, and logical for introducing our long term diet. When DS went onto his exclusion diet, I had to cook and adapt anyway (even after a long working day). I wasn't zealous about it and didn't sweat about minor issues like spoons for yoghurt.

The big problem is that a lot of people have a limited idea of what balanced nutrition is anyway, and limited cooking skills. For a long time weaning advice overcomplicated phasing in foods making pre-made baby food the easy solution to the problem (that was probably created by the food companies anyway...) MN is of a much higher literacy and more critical than the average population level so it's not surprising that people take health claims at face value n the front of a pack and don't get much sense from the small print. Lots of people only take advice from what their parents and friends did. Not that the Children's Centres have widespread coverage now.

Food will have fewer benefits when it's been over-cooked and pulverised down. Digestion starts with chewing, so by-passing that with purees is not good for the body's processes. Cooking food long enough to sterilise it changes the structure of it and changes the nutrients. The importance of gut bacteria is a new science and where children's diets are predominently based on sterile, very processed foods rather than a broad range, it will restrict their gut bacteria.

The baby snacks didn't make much sense to me. They weren't filling, didn't have much nutrition and didn't really add anything to a young child's experience of food other than building an expectation to snack out of routine.

As a casual observation, in recent years, there seems to have been a gear change in fussiness of the young people at my youth groups. There's always been the occasional restrictive eater, but there is now a cluster struggling to eat fresh foods (no ND suspected). On residentials, the contents of the fruit bowl go down far less than they did in the 2000s/10s. There is a strong corelation between the ease of eating fruits and the rate at which they get eaten. Grapes, then bananas. Some apples. "Easy peeler" oranges not being touched at all. I suspect that they're more used to instant fruits like grapes and blueberries or pre-prepared fruit salads and just aren't used to having to chew around a whole apple or peel and pick at an orange themselves.

There is a perfect storm of corporate greed/ advertising, lack of general knowledge about health, lack of accessible support and lack of time affecting children's health.

Ultra-processed babies: are toddler snacks one of the great food scandals of our time?

For time-poor parents, straws, sticks, pouches and powders can seem like a quick, convenient and even healthy option. But these oversweetened, mushy foods are creating a generation of choosy consumers whose teeth are already rotting

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/15/ultra-processed-babies-are-toddler-snacks-one-of-the-great-food-scandals-of-our-time

telestrations · 30/04/2025 14:21

Bonbonvanilla · 29/04/2025 17:53

Are they sold as something different to jars?

Pouches didn't exisit when my DC were small. I did use jars very occasionally when travelling, but surely no-one really thinks any of these processed meals are as good as real homecooked food?

This is exactly how I feel. I've used pouches or jars on occasion when visiting friends and family but never regularly, at home, with the expectation that they are as good or better home cooked or using the pooch straw, always with a spoon. It's just common sense and following the NHS guidelines

I can highly recommend getting a baby food maker (steamer, blender and defroster/reheater in one) as it makes it so much easier and if you're looking at £3 a day on this stuff can pay for itself in a few weeks

BadSkiingMum · 05/05/2025 16:22

The issues are all brilliantly set out here on Panorama - one TV show does the work of a thousand reports! And I love a good report….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002bl1w

BBC One - Panorama, The Truth about Baby Food Pouches

The risks of regularly using baby food pouches in place of homemade meals.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002bl1w

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