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AIBU about my parents / in laws?

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ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 20:56

I’m finding a situation with my parents quite difficult and I need to know if I am being unreasonable in how I navigate it.

DH and I have three children - 6(m), 4(m) and a baby (f). We live in London, about five minutes from my husband’s parents. My parents live in a village which is about an hour and 20 minutes drive from us. I’m currently on maternity leave but usually work 3 days per week, DH works full time.

I have a generally good relationship with my parents, who are kind and supportive - but frequently difficult - people. They love the kids and will happily spend time with them. However, it is very much on their terms only. They very rarely come to us as they’re real homebodies, but they would ideally like me to bring all three children to them every week.

I feel they also like the idea of having the children round more than the reality. They’re very kind to the children, but I can see they get irritated and exhausted by noise and mess. The kids are nice, easy-going children, but they aren’t going to spend a day somewhere without getting things out to play or chatting to us and one another. If they get out a puzzle, however, my mother is immediately fussing about how they’ll need to tidy up soon etc. Her house is not at all child proof. She hates when my boys want to play in the garden because she thinks they’ll trash the flowers - something they’ve never done and wouldn’t do.

My mother in particular is also very addicted to her phone, to the point where it’s hard to get her attention sometimes to talk to her. This can incline her to just put some godawful YouTube dancing fruits on the tv so she can scroll in peace. Often I feel like I’m making a nearly three hour round trip just to look after my children in a house which is much less set up for them than my own, while my mother ignores me because she’s online shopping or watching reels.

My inlaws are very different. I get on brilliantly with them and they’re the most active and involved grandparents. They’re the types to call in the morning and ask if I want them to take the older kids swimming, or they’ll come and spend a morning doing ironing or DIY to help me keep on top of things. They play brilliant, engaged, active games with the kids. They seem to really enjoy their company. They’re really respectful of our choices, follow our lead and just want to be helpful and present.

The issue is that my mother has seen at a few events recently where everyone has been together that my children are much closer to my in laws than to them, and she is whole heartedly blaming me for this. Her view is that it’s because I facilitate more contact with the inlaws, spend more time with them, and let them have the kids more. She seems to think that if I took the kids to her every week like she wishes I would (I tend to only do every 2/3 weeks), they would have the same relationship as my in laws do. While I’m on maternity leave she seems to think I should be bringing the younger two multiple times per week, just to sit in her house.

She is a very defensive person. If I told her the reason my in laws are closer to the children is because they put in more effort and work with us instead of expecting us to do all the running, she would be furious. She can be cruel when she isn’t getting her own way (but very kind, generous and thoughtful at others).

Do I need to be doing more to facilitate her spending time with the kids on her own terms? Will I regret not doing so when she’s dead, even though it’s exhausting and unrewarding at the moment? Or do I keep things the way they are and let her enjoy the fiction that it’s my fault?

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Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 23/04/2025 21:07

You have not done anything wrong. Keep prioritising your nuclear, and very young, family. They know where you live if they want more contact

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 23/04/2025 21:08

Also, I love those dancing fruits. But surely they are too babyish for your boys.

WeAreAllBucked · 23/04/2025 21:12

I would not be travelling three hours round trip with kids for that carry on. Could you not drop a few hints and at how helpful in-laws are. Could you not explain they need to come to you. Sorry your parents are not great, but it is lovely to hear a positive in law story.

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:13

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 23/04/2025 21:08

Also, I love those dancing fruits. But surely they are too babyish for your boys.

Definitely for the older one, but I’m sometimes there without him when he’s at school. My 4yo will get sucked in if they’re on, even though he usually doesn’t watch a lot of TV and no YouTube at home. The baby finds them addictive but I don’t really want her watching any television at her age. Not least because the fruits drive me crazy!

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Greatuncleshair · 23/04/2025 21:13

Why can't your parents come to you? I'd suggest that if they want more involvement.

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:15

WeAreAllBucked · 23/04/2025 21:12

I would not be travelling three hours round trip with kids for that carry on. Could you not drop a few hints and at how helpful in-laws are. Could you not explain they need to come to you. Sorry your parents are not great, but it is lovely to hear a positive in law story.

I really lucked out with the in laws, they’re brilliant. My parents can be amazing too but it’s much more hit and miss. The highs are high but the lows are low.

Hints might be the best way forward, in terms of trying to proceed delicately…

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Rhaidimiddim · 23/04/2025 21:19

You have a young family to nurture and defend. Stop being so scared of your mum. Tell her the truth about how her own behaviour is responsible for your kids having a better relationship with the other GPs. So what if she gets upset - what is she going to do, ground you?
Then repeat the message in an understated - or wapish, or gentle, or whatever - way, as necessary. As in "Other gramps have a child- friendly garden/wouldn't dream of getting their phones outcwhen DGC are around/takethe kids swimming" etc.
Don't take the blame, point out where the problem lies. They'll either change or they won't, but you'll have given your mum the info she needs to forge a better relationship.with the DGCs, if ( I doubt it) she has the personality to hear it.

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:19

They know they have a standing invitation to come to me and they occasionally do, but they don’t like to. They really hate to be away from their home - I’m not sure why as they’re fit, healthy etc but they just like to be at home.

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Eggsinthewhoopsiebasketalready · 23/04/2025 21:20

Text her Sunday evening when you are home available for visiting the next week. Ball in her court and all that. Like hell would I be taking 3 dc anywhere to make someone's life easier...

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:20

Rhaidimiddim · 23/04/2025 21:19

You have a young family to nurture and defend. Stop being so scared of your mum. Tell her the truth about how her own behaviour is responsible for your kids having a better relationship with the other GPs. So what if she gets upset - what is she going to do, ground you?
Then repeat the message in an understated - or wapish, or gentle, or whatever - way, as necessary. As in "Other gramps have a child- friendly garden/wouldn't dream of getting their phones outcwhen DGC are around/takethe kids swimming" etc.
Don't take the blame, point out where the problem lies. They'll either change or they won't, but you'll have given your mum the info she needs to forge a better relationship.with the DGCs, if ( I doubt it) she has the personality to hear it.

This is such excellent advice but at this point being scared of my mother has been 90% of my personality for 43 years 😂

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BlueMum16 · 23/04/2025 21:21

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:19

They know they have a standing invitation to come to me and they occasionally do, but they don’t like to. They really hate to be away from their home - I’m not sure why as they’re fit, healthy etc but they just like to be at home.

How about messaging and saying come tomorrow, we're going the park. Come on Friday, we're going the forest. Ask them to mind the kids ok Tuesday as you've got a hair appointment.

Give them a specific reason to visit.

Screamingabdabz · 23/04/2025 21:21

Love how appreciative you are of your in-laws and their efforts. So refreshing to see on MN (especially after the recent ‘slag off your ILs’ thread!). I hope you tell them…

As for your parents, don’t worry about future regrets. You’re living the best way for your young family and you can’t be expected to keep hauling your 3 DC that far several times a week. That’s not reasonable. Your in-laws are accepting of you where you are, and your parents should too. If your parents don’t want to make the effort, they can get as defensive as they like, but they’ll reap what they sow.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/04/2025 21:22

Your mum is being very unreasonable. Your children don't have a particularly good time there and neither do you. You end up looking after your children with no help or support in a house that isn't set up for kids. I can't believe that she complains about a jigsaw puzzle making her home look untidy.

I think you do need to tell her the truth. So what if she's furious. She just wants everyone to think that she is a lovely grandmother without making any effort at all. Even if you saw her more frequently, the kids aren't automatically going to be closer to her than to your in-laws because they are really great grandparents and she isn't.

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:23

BlueMum16 · 23/04/2025 21:21

How about messaging and saying come tomorrow, we're going the park. Come on Friday, we're going the forest. Ask them to mind the kids ok Tuesday as you've got a hair appointment.

Give them a specific reason to visit.

This is a good idea, it may be that a standing invitation isn’t specific enough for them to really feel welcome.

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SoloSofa24 · 23/04/2025 21:27

She expects you to drive 80mins there and back with one or more children two or three times a week? That is ridiculous! It is a huge amount of time for children to spend in the car, even without the limited interaction the other end.

I would also be suggesting that it would be much better if she would occasionally come to you, or meet you half way at somewhere with interesting activities for the children?

You could drop little snippets into the conversation about how active they are so they love going swimming (with other grandpa), or how excited they are about going to the park (with other grandma) and so on.

I had similar but the opposite way round with my DM and MiL: my DM would cook with them, take them to the cinema, chat with them about things they were interested in etc, but my PiLs, who lived further away, would make a big thing of coming to stay with us to see the children, and then spend most of their time sitting quietly in the front room with their newspapers, not in the room with the TV and the toys etc where the children were... And similar when we went to stay with them in their extremely tidy house where any toys or art materials were only really allowed in the sun room. You can guess which grandparent the children ended up closer to.

Rhaidimiddim · 23/04/2025 21:30

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:20

This is such excellent advice but at this point being scared of my mother has been 90% of my personality for 43 years 😂

And now you have kids and a husband and in-laws who love you, so you d9n't need to be scared of her. She has no.power any more - you have the power now, you just need to break the habit. (I've been there.)

Endofyear · 23/04/2025 21:39

I think it's really selfish of your parents to expect you to do that amount of travel with 3 small children! If your mother complains to you again, you should point out that the kids are close to your in-laws because you live 5 minutes away and they make a lot of effort to play with the children, take them swimming etc. Tell your mum you'd love her to visit, put down her phone and spend time with the children. She might not like hearing it but you can't go through life never telling the truth in case she doesn't like it.

Vaxtable · 23/04/2025 21:43

Just be honest. Sorry mum but you spend all your time on the phone and don’t engage with the kids when I do bring them, so you are not going to have the same relationship. As regards visits I can’t do more than I am already, however if you want to make the journey to us then please do you will be welcome and of course the kids have all their toys there so you can play much easily with them

i think need to be honest about how your in laws centre the kids, and that’s why they have such a good bond when your mother much prefers her phone

dijonketchup · 23/04/2025 21:44

Can you have a particular day of the week you pencil in your parents visiting you, rather than a standing invitation, which is not specific enough? E.g. Thursday - Will you be coming to see us this Thursday, mum? Or meet somewhere halfway on Thursdays? Country house or nature reserve or something? It sounds like everyone would be happier to do things together outdoors and that you need to allocate the time to them that you can manage, then not fret about it any longer. You’ve done nothing wrong.

2chocolateoranges · 23/04/2025 21:47

I would just be honest and explain that in laws have a greater bond because they make the effort to visit their grandchildren and engage with them, rather than sitting on their phones.

truth hurts but she can’t make you feel guilty when she isn’t making an effort,

Drearycommuter · 23/04/2025 21:51

I could have written this! No advice - I just avoid mentioning the reality and feel grateful that the ILs are so great with my children.

Totally agree not to feel compelled to take yours over to your mum's more though. Perhaps tell them how hard you find it going out and it's easier to stay at home, you're knackered, struggling under the weight of parenting etc.

Zanatdy · 23/04/2025 21:57

I wouldn’t be driving over with 3 young DC every week. If she says it again, i’d just say that life is incredibly busy with young DC and you’d love it if they could come over to you more, as it’s easier for you in their own home, and just remind them that they are welcome anytime. If they choose not to, then that’s on them, not you. A 3hr round trip is too much weekly, especially if she’s going to be stressy and not interact much.

Wizardonabroom · 23/04/2025 22:01

I could have written this! My DM is the same behaviour-wise on an iPad or phone constantly. She tells the DCs off for being too noisy and makes passive aggressive comments. My DF isn't as bad in comparison (fortunately) but he doesn't engage with our DCs a huge amount.

I can see it upsets my DM that the DCs don't want to be with her as much but I can't blame them!

Not sure what the solution is but I wouldn't recommend extra time where the DCs don't feel happy spending time and if you're running around trying to keep the peace to avoid your DM getting stressy then it's definitely not worth it.

SpryUmberZebra · 24/04/2025 00:13

The fact your in laws live 5 mins away and they live over an hour away means there is no scenario where they will spend the same amount of time with the kids, it’s not going to happen. Add to that your in laws are more involved and handsome with the kids unlike your parents it makes sense that the kids will be closer to your in laws.

Unfortunately you can’t stop your mother getting upset so I works be upfront and say what you’ve said here and if she wants to get upset that’s her choice. Don’t let her have power over you to the extent you’re so worried about getting her upset, it’s a way to keep people under control, you’re out in a position where you don’t want to upset them so you pander to them and do what they want even if it doesn’t work for you.

Mom I would love for you to have a close relationship with the kids but the fact the in laws live 5 mins away means they will naturally spend more time with the kids. Also they are welcoming and willing to play with the kids appropriately and let the kids be kids etc etc, and they also come to spent time with the kids as well rather than expect us to visit them all the time. It would be helpful if you visit us sometimes as well because it’s hard for me to do all the traveling with 3 kids. Maybe skip the phone addiction for now so she doesn’t get too defensive :)

Keep it factual and it’s up to your mother to see reason and say ok what changes can we make or throw a strop and act like a spoilt child.

HeyCooper · 24/04/2025 00:24

Invite her to take the kids swimming or to the park with you. If she’s on her phone ask her to put it away and interact.