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AIBU about my parents / in laws?

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ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 20:56

I’m finding a situation with my parents quite difficult and I need to know if I am being unreasonable in how I navigate it.

DH and I have three children - 6(m), 4(m) and a baby (f). We live in London, about five minutes from my husband’s parents. My parents live in a village which is about an hour and 20 minutes drive from us. I’m currently on maternity leave but usually work 3 days per week, DH works full time.

I have a generally good relationship with my parents, who are kind and supportive - but frequently difficult - people. They love the kids and will happily spend time with them. However, it is very much on their terms only. They very rarely come to us as they’re real homebodies, but they would ideally like me to bring all three children to them every week.

I feel they also like the idea of having the children round more than the reality. They’re very kind to the children, but I can see they get irritated and exhausted by noise and mess. The kids are nice, easy-going children, but they aren’t going to spend a day somewhere without getting things out to play or chatting to us and one another. If they get out a puzzle, however, my mother is immediately fussing about how they’ll need to tidy up soon etc. Her house is not at all child proof. She hates when my boys want to play in the garden because she thinks they’ll trash the flowers - something they’ve never done and wouldn’t do.

My mother in particular is also very addicted to her phone, to the point where it’s hard to get her attention sometimes to talk to her. This can incline her to just put some godawful YouTube dancing fruits on the tv so she can scroll in peace. Often I feel like I’m making a nearly three hour round trip just to look after my children in a house which is much less set up for them than my own, while my mother ignores me because she’s online shopping or watching reels.

My inlaws are very different. I get on brilliantly with them and they’re the most active and involved grandparents. They’re the types to call in the morning and ask if I want them to take the older kids swimming, or they’ll come and spend a morning doing ironing or DIY to help me keep on top of things. They play brilliant, engaged, active games with the kids. They seem to really enjoy their company. They’re really respectful of our choices, follow our lead and just want to be helpful and present.

The issue is that my mother has seen at a few events recently where everyone has been together that my children are much closer to my in laws than to them, and she is whole heartedly blaming me for this. Her view is that it’s because I facilitate more contact with the inlaws, spend more time with them, and let them have the kids more. She seems to think that if I took the kids to her every week like she wishes I would (I tend to only do every 2/3 weeks), they would have the same relationship as my in laws do. While I’m on maternity leave she seems to think I should be bringing the younger two multiple times per week, just to sit in her house.

She is a very defensive person. If I told her the reason my in laws are closer to the children is because they put in more effort and work with us instead of expecting us to do all the running, she would be furious. She can be cruel when she isn’t getting her own way (but very kind, generous and thoughtful at others).

Do I need to be doing more to facilitate her spending time with the kids on her own terms? Will I regret not doing so when she’s dead, even though it’s exhausting and unrewarding at the moment? Or do I keep things the way they are and let her enjoy the fiction that it’s my fault?

OP posts:
HeyCooper · 24/04/2025 00:25

Just explain that they play with the kids lots

Jadebanditchillipepper · 24/04/2025 00:28

I could have written your post when my children were younger. I remember my Mum begging to be able to look after the children, but then smacking my son because he said "poo" too many times (he was going through the toilet humour stage at that point), so I told her no way was she looking after my children unsupervised again - of course, I was being unreasonable and denying her access to her precious grandchildren etc etc. She would also try and force them to hug her when they weren't ready/didn't want her to and that was also my fault.

My in laws couldn't have been more different - my MIL is actually my DHs stepmother, but she treated all the grandchildren as her own and loved them and would happily look after them if I asked (I didn't very often, because we live an hour away and paid for childcare), usually if one of them was unwell or had an inset day or something and on a couple of occasions, the children stayed with them whilst dh and I went away. My FIL died recently and my MIL is now quite frail, but she was always so helpful.

My Mum accused me of turning my children against her and said she hardly saw them. She also said that she'd only met my husband about 12 times in 27 years of us being together, which was complete and utter nonsense

Ferrissia3 · 24/04/2025 00:47

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:20

This is such excellent advice but at this point being scared of my mother has been 90% of my personality for 43 years 😂

Kindly, you might want to stop modeling that for your kids OP...

paranoiaofpufflings · 24/04/2025 00:49

“If I told her the reason my in laws are closer to the children is because they put in more effort”
There’s no need for that. Your mother puts in the effort in her own way. She is a different person and you have a different relationship with her and them, but she obviously is putting in the effort to have a relationship.

Rather than let this fester forever and turn into resentment, you need to be honest with your mother. Explain that the kids like to play games in the garden and indoors, they are chatty, they are active - all normal things for 0-6 year olds. Perhaps being open and honest about this will be enough to spur her on to relax around them in her home. Or perhaps the better option is to arrange regular trips out with her, somewhere where they can actively play and she can just be around them.

i had grandparents exactly like this. One set who were the most fun and just big kids themselves, and one set who were fussy, where we had to sit quietly and make conversation. In all honesty, I loved them the same, and I’m glad my parents encouraged a relationship with both sides despite the different experiences. I learned a lot from being around both sides.

Maplesy10 · 24/04/2025 00:57

Stop going to visit them.
I wouldn't be doing that distance with three children.
As advised point out the difference in interactions with their other grandparents.

Likewise, invite them to visit, leave it completely up to them if they want to join you.
Do not entertain blane.
Pount out all the invitations they have decided to muss if they don't bother.

Pull back from seeing them.
It sounds very unhealthy that you are so afraid of your mother.
Therapy maybe? And space.
Enjoy your mat leave as much as you can and cut out the travelling.
You parents sound extremely selfish.

WaryHiker · 24/04/2025 01:22

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:20

This is such excellent advice but at this point being scared of my mother has been 90% of my personality for 43 years 😂

Counselling asap before you turn your children into people pleasers too. You have to lead by example if you want your children to grow up with boundaries, and at the moment you are setting yours a poor example.

I feel very sorry for you because I more than recognise the dynamic. But this really is on you to get yourself sorted out so you can be the parent you need to be to your own children.

Imisschampagne · 24/04/2025 04:20

Well that’s on them.

its a lot more work for you to come to them than vice versa. Start valuing your own time and work on your Self worth.

your parents Are being very egocentric and immature. Stop playing into your old family dynamics and focus on yourself and your children. It will also teach them to stand up for yourself and not let other peoples emotions guilt trip you.

please read a book on emotionally immature parents. Younneed to free yourself from these dynamic.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 24/04/2025 04:39

The issue is that my mother has seen at a few events recently where everyone has been together that my children are much closer to my in laws than to them, and she is whole heartedly blaming me for this. Her view is that it’s because I facilitate more contact with the inlaws, spend more time with them, and let them have the kids more. She seems to think that if I took the kids to her every week like she wishes I would (I tend to only do every 2/3 weeks), they would have the same relationship as my in laws do. While I’m on maternity leave she seems to think I should be bringing the younger two multiple times per week, just to sit in her house.

I dont know why you wouldn't tell her she's responsible for own behaviour and maybe if she put her phone away and came to yours once in a while the kids would be closer to her.
Even the most placid women, 3 children in, would have had their fill of this nonsense. And 3 hrs of driving for heybear and stifled play...? Ooof its a no from me

Go 4 x per year max (like a easter xmas and a couple of birthdays visids or something) and when you do bring an activity (its summer soon so something for the garden)
say "put your phone away"
" why do they need to tidy the puzzle there's no rush" Etc

I'd also text her at least 2 x pm inviting her to things like the park / swimming/ soft play / woodland hike.
Then you've "got the receipts"

Agree with i miss champagne above.
Stop indulging this nonsense. They should visit you and try and make your life easier. Its not all about them... I work FT with a 1 and 3 yo and am a woman on the edge half the time

thepariscrimefiles · 24/04/2025 05:06

paranoiaofpufflings · 24/04/2025 00:49

“If I told her the reason my in laws are closer to the children is because they put in more effort”
There’s no need for that. Your mother puts in the effort in her own way. She is a different person and you have a different relationship with her and them, but she obviously is putting in the effort to have a relationship.

Rather than let this fester forever and turn into resentment, you need to be honest with your mother. Explain that the kids like to play games in the garden and indoors, they are chatty, they are active - all normal things for 0-6 year olds. Perhaps being open and honest about this will be enough to spur her on to relax around them in her home. Or perhaps the better option is to arrange regular trips out with her, somewhere where they can actively play and she can just be around them.

i had grandparents exactly like this. One set who were the most fun and just big kids themselves, and one set who were fussy, where we had to sit quietly and make conversation. In all honesty, I loved them the same, and I’m glad my parents encouraged a relationship with both sides despite the different experiences. I learned a lot from being around both sides.

I don't agree that OP's mum is putting in the effort in her own way. She expects OP to do all the work, travelling with three children multiple times a month and even multiple times a week with the baby.

She doesn't interact with them at all (apart from complaining about a jigsaw making her house untidy) and will just stick them in front of the TV.

She doesn't even bother chatting to the OP who says:

'Often I feel like I’m making a nearly three hour round trip just to look after my children in a house which is much less set up for them than my own, while my mother ignores me because she’s online shopping or watching reels.'

She only wants more contact because she is jealous of their relationship with OP's in-laws. I'm sure if OP's children showed less affection towards their other grandparents, OP's mum wouldn't be demanding more contact. This desire for more contact is driven by OP's mum framing this as a competition between the two sets of grandparents. If she really wanted a closer and more affectionate relationship, she could get off her phone and actually interact with her grandchildren. But that would take more effort which she can't be bothered to do.

Maplesy10 · 24/04/2025 10:05

OP, what you are doing dragging your children to see two egotists is wrong.

You are putting your parents ego ahead of what is best for your children.
This is wrong.

You are not acting in your childrens best interests driving that distance for absolutely no payback.

Stop putting your parents first, ahead of your children.

Get therapy. Your children deserve to be put first.

Cynic17 · 24/04/2025 10:08

Seeing their grandchildren every week is ridiculous. For most GPs, it's a few times a year.
You do whatever suits you best, OP.

AbigfanofDogs · 24/04/2025 10:10

Rare to see but your in laws sound wonderful, are they for hire? 😂

TBH I’d give it to your mum straight. You aren’t a kid anymore, no need to travel to their house and put yourself out you have a baby and two other children.

It sounds as if they want to appear to be good grandparents with none of the work.

Sounds like my MIL who is all talk no action, site on her fat arse all day on her phone. If you saw her Facebook page she’d appear to be just like your in laws ironically.

AbigfanofDogs · 24/04/2025 10:13

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:15

I really lucked out with the in laws, they’re brilliant. My parents can be amazing too but it’s much more hit and miss. The highs are high but the lows are low.

Hints might be the best way forward, in terms of trying to proceed delicately…

You sound absolutely lovely and really balanced, doesn’t mean you can’t rip into your parents and tell them how it is. Let go of the people pleasing it will be a revelation.

PS- with my mum its highs and lows too. We get on better nowdays with boundaries. It took her time to get used to it.

PurpleThistle7 · 24/04/2025 10:58

as you have a new baby there will be years and years of this ahead so better to start putting up reasonable boundaries now.

I agree with others - invite her to join you in activities that she might like but stop going there. Tell her that you have decided not to allow screen time during the week and stick to it. Don’t rush around cleaning up after your kids - if she wants them there she has to take the whole package. But mostly I think you should stop going there. Come up with several lines ahead of time for the nonsense she’ll say ‘oh we have lunch ready here, want to come round?’ ‘Oh we have a playdate later so can’t go out for the day, want to meet us at x for a coffee tomorrow?’ Etc etc etc. Talk up all the things your in-laws are doing in your home and at the things you do together.

there is 0 reason to spend hours in the car with 3 kids to sit around watching silly videos.

readingmakesmehappy · 24/04/2025 11:08

ParentStresses · 23/04/2025 21:19

They know they have a standing invitation to come to me and they occasionally do, but they don’t like to. They really hate to be away from their home - I’m not sure why as they’re fit, healthy etc but they just like to be at home.

Mine are like this. We have a comfortable spare room in an annexe they can stay in, but they do not seem to understand that a 2 hour drive with two small children is hard for us. DS has ASD and finds being in their house v hard as it’s full of things he can’t touch and my DPs are v old school. It was covid - they got so comfortable in their house that now they hate going anywhere else and it makes them pretty poor house guests.

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