To say not one single organisation has come out in support of the court ruling for women's rights?

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Aside from actual women's rights orgs, I've not seen any organisations make positive statements about the court ruling.

I'd love to be wrong, but my experience has been either silence or a call to arms against "anti trans bigots".

YABU - I've seen loads
YANBU - I've not seen any

Most people I speak with think it's lunacy.

But - there isn't a wide reaching appreciation of the damages already done because of this movement. Posters on MN have pulled together some fantastic posts detailing some highlights. Most women I speak with have no real oversight of this or don't stop long enough to think how dangerous this trans movement is and has been.

It has been like blindly walking into a situation so horrifying that many would not realise how hideous this predicament is/was until they felt the far end effects in the future.

Most I truly believe think it's about toilets and calling people them/they without a full appreciation of the more insidious,deeper ramifications.

I think many now have seen biological men winning medals and prizes meant for women, fought for by women since the times of Ancient Greece. Many now see lunacy.

Men in power betraying both other men and women and their country, and higher status women clinging onto what power they can wrest in complicity is unfortunately not new. Many see both in our times.

They're probably trying avoid being bored to death by whiny men.

Most people I know are of the Be Kind variety, who think JK is a bigot etc. They have taken their inaccurate views from SM. It's so frustrating, I try to mention about rape centres, single sex wards, the nurses fighting legal cases, but people are so brain washed. I volunteer with disadvantaged young people and the narrative is all pro trans. No one seems interested in actual facts, I can't comprehend the sheer stupidity.

Why would an organisation come out in support of it? What good does it do them to make a statement on an outcome thaf some customers/employees will welcome and some won’t? Why not just stay neutral, in the same way that many companies don’t support any political party etc?

Their obligation is to comply with the law - minimum wage, maternity pay , health and safety etc. They will comply with this clarification of the law where they need to (for most companies - toilets; for some in sport or personal care - may be more than that) but it’s not necessarily more profound than having to comply with a new ruling about screen glare or employee eye tests or whatever.

It's ignorance and stupidity and if you try present facts,some people will just act like a child with a 'lala la I can't hear you' mentality.

I just didn't realise myself before joining MN why the trans agenda was so problematic. Intelligent debate is lacking out there I notice.

I think a lot of organisations are,. sensibly,.taking a moment to reflect and take advice before saying anything.

Women turning up for marches like this are at a very real risk of physical violence from trans 'activists'. Women need to see the law being applied to these people who are frightening.

Why would they? Almost nothing to gain, a lot to lose.

Sadly I think any woman publicly supporting this judgment in the current climate genuinely risks her safety. Which is actually horrifying.

My work has acknowledged it and said they will be reviewing policies (loos are self id) But they also said 're realise the outcome will upset some people, etc, etc'. They just couldn't help themselves

Yes, the NHS organisation I work for has said very similar, including the bit about "upsetting some people". They don't mention women at all, but say it will make no difference to their commitment to support the rights of trans people.

And gives thanks to the LGBT+ Staff Network "who continues to provide support to people who might be affected by this news".

No mention of protection of women's rights, or of women at all.

And it has made me realise that there is no Women's Network - I'm considering whether I'm up for the possible backlash of trying to start one. And both disappointed in myself that I'd worry about this, and angry that I have to.

My organisation is very pro trans rights. I’ve been on so much training about it…
They have said nothing yet. I imagine when they do it will be in sympathy with trans people.

Not noticed any businesses, but have noticed a lot more people discussing the issue and seeing them wake up to the fact that this is not just about toilets but the wider implications of losing the definition of what the word woman means.
I'm seeing them gradually come to the same realisation that many on these boards came to years ago, because this was one of the few places we could do that.

I've been speaking about this quite openly for the past 8 years or so.

I've met a few who didn't feel they knew enough to form an opinion - initially.

But I could count on one hand the number of people I've personally spoken to who were actually in agreement with the other side.

And that goes across both men and women and all ages from teens (my daughter and her friends) to men in their 70s and everyone in between.

Organisations were just scrambling to be 'on the right side of history'. Some of them won't have looked into it too deeply but seen the police, the NHS, the BBC and the government going along with it and decided to err on the side of caution. At least if they turned out to he on the wrong side, they wouldn't be alone. Right? 😉

I think a lot of places will wait for the guidance to come out because they really won't want to be getting it wrong again!

I think its very telling that people have come out in support of trans(women's) rights and ignored women.

But that's all because the whole thing was a 'men's rights movement' as so many have said and many will feel uncomfortable that women triumphed over men even if they're not really aware of that themselves. It just goes against the accepted natural order of things.

But I also think there will be a number of organisations who weren't comfortable with it and went along with it anyway and now just feel a bit silly. They're just hoping they won't come under too much scrutiny themselves.

Amnesty have some ads on Facebook.
Idiots.
Screen grab to follow

I don't trust any ads on Facebook. Everyone I know who has used them has been scammed in some way and details sold to loads of 3rd parties. I'd not click on it at all and would assume it is spoof from the likes of Reform who seem to be paying to be all over facebook.

Maybe they are not obsessed by it like everyone seems to be?

I'm furious. First the best part of a facade men have been colonising and appropriating women's rights. Yet every media outlet asks the GC women they are interviewing why they don't feel bad that they made the men sad. 🤬🤬🤬

Buckle up pet. Things are only getting started.

GRA was passed in 2004. Women started to peak in numbers from 2015. We achieved this much push back in a decade, but the rot set in a long time before that. We have done a huge amount in a decade.

Fear. Until they fear breaking the law more than they fear vigilante trans activists, this will continue.

This is a great interview. Maya is right about data. All data going back decades needs correcting so that it is accurate.

They have withdrawn their decision that transwomen can search women - this is (and always was) illegal, but they thought it wasn't. Now they have been told. Of course, the TRAs have said it means that transwomen are searched by men - everything has to be all about them!

I have noticed that the situation of transmen (biological women) is being used as a stick to beat the SC ruling with. Heretofore no-one gave a toss about transwomen afaik.

I suppose it is good to have a hobby