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to think it is not fair for those who are full time office based to resent those who WFH?

32 replies

Bottlew · 23/04/2025 17:01

At my work, most people are hybrid but a significant group are office based full time as their job cannot be done from home. This has always caused a few issues but nothing too serious.

Car park fees have now significantly gone up. Obviously this is affecting those who are in the office full time a lot more than those of us who only have go in 1-2 days a week.

It is now creating an unpleasant atmosphere and resentment between those based in the office full time and those who WFH.

I suspect it is more than just the car park fees. Life is much easier generally for most WFH. We can get our chores done, do school runs etc which the office people cannot do. I do understand but it is management who makes the decisions not the individual staff unless they have specific needs.

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MidnightPatrol · 23/04/2025 17:04

If you don’t like being in the office five days a week, there is the opportunity to look for a role which involves less.

toomuchfaff · 23/04/2025 17:05

Everyone has the option to change their circumstances (job) of they no longer like the situation.

No one is forcing them to stay in a job.

If they are causing bad working environments by resentment, they should polish their CV and start applying for other roles that offer the benefits they want.

TeenToTwenties · 23/04/2025 17:07

Perhaps there should be a 'work at office' allowance within the pay structure.

TheFunHare · 23/04/2025 17:07

It's a silly call by management to put up car parking fees given the situation. Otherwise I think your job is your job and you do what management ask (within reason) or look elsewhere. When my office decided on 3 days back in the workplace I left. Working from home had become too precious to lose. I work very hard from home but love not having to commute and not having to dress appropriately and wear make up. A smartish top and video touch up does the same. I work full time from home now and can honestly say I've not missed the office once (well maybe the heating in winter!).

Martymcfly24 · 23/04/2025 17:08

Why were the car park fees put up? Is it a public car park or one belonging to the business.

ScaryM0nster · 23/04/2025 17:10

It’s not particularly surprising - particularly when theres no reflection of it in the remuneration set up.

Fairyliz · 23/04/2025 17:13

I think you are being a little unsympathetic. You all work for the same organisation and presumably paid similar salaries for similar levels of work. Unfortunately some people also have to spend time commuting and pay increased car parking charges. Can you really not understand why they might be a bit miffed?
Yes I know they can apply for wfh jobs, but this takes time and energy. Also if all office workers did this then salaries for wfh would fall.
Try and be a little more understanding op.

APurpleSquirrel · 23/04/2025 17:17

The flip side is that those who work from home can have higher utilities bills - heating, electricity etc. This may not be comparable to commuting but it’s also a consideration, plus many people dislike working from home.

Bottlew · 23/04/2025 18:28

It belongs to the business. They want to encourage staff to use public transport.

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Bottlew · 23/04/2025 18:29

Fairyliz · 23/04/2025 17:13

I think you are being a little unsympathetic. You all work for the same organisation and presumably paid similar salaries for similar levels of work. Unfortunately some people also have to spend time commuting and pay increased car parking charges. Can you really not understand why they might be a bit miffed?
Yes I know they can apply for wfh jobs, but this takes time and energy. Also if all office workers did this then salaries for wfh would fall.
Try and be a little more understanding op.

I understand why they are miffed but it needs to be aimed at the organisation not the staff who WFH.

The WFH staff did not implement this change.

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Hufflemuff · 23/04/2025 18:31

Bottlew · 23/04/2025 18:28

It belongs to the business. They want to encourage staff to use public transport.

Thats a slap in the face of office workers then! Of course they would be pissed off if their own company is charging them to work in the office!

Management need to allow parking passes to those working FT or provide a small salary increase IMO.

RickiRaccoon · 23/04/2025 18:37

Different jobs have different needs. Isn't the line trotted out that they can just (easily) find a different job that suits their needs more? My job just required 3 days in the office and it's really not working with small kids so I'm interviewing elsewhere for something that better suits my family. Your colleagues can do the same.

The higher parking fees sucks in this economic climate though. Some people do have to drive just to be able to juggle pickups and dropoffs.

Bottlew · 23/04/2025 18:44

RickiRaccoon · 23/04/2025 18:37

Different jobs have different needs. Isn't the line trotted out that they can just (easily) find a different job that suits their needs more? My job just required 3 days in the office and it's really not working with small kids so I'm interviewing elsewhere for something that better suits my family. Your colleagues can do the same.

The higher parking fees sucks in this economic climate though. Some people do have to drive just to be able to juggle pickups and dropoffs.

There was a consultation regarding the parking fee increase. It disproportionately affects women as they tend to drops off and picks up but they went ahead anyway with increasing the charges. It is quite tough for some to do school and nursery pick up and drop off on public transport.

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Martymcfly24 · 23/04/2025 18:48

That's really shitty on the part of the business especially in light of the fact there are already different work practices in place.

I'm not surprised they are pissed off. It was a totally unnecessary move .

LuluDelulu · 23/04/2025 18:49

That’s crappy of them. No surprise it’s created an atmosphere!

PattyDukeAstin · 23/04/2025 18:51

You mentioned that wfh allows you to do 'chores' and the 'school -run'. I imagine that this is more annoying than increased parking fees.

Glittertwins · 23/04/2025 18:52

Charging for parking is pretty poor behaviour from the employer.

BCBird · 23/04/2025 18:58

I'd be annoyed if I was office based too. It not the wfh group's fault. I would be annoyed if people who mentioned about getting chores done etc. Discretion needed I think. People in office don't need to know this. They are worse off financially. They need to be compensated or wfh paid less

AgnesX · 23/04/2025 18:59

Car parking has always been contentious because most organisations don't have enough and where they have large amounts it generally costs more to rent etc. Where I've worked it's generally who gets parking that's been the issue rather than the cost involved.

It might be better if permanently office based staff were offered a discount. After that, it's hard cheese really.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 23/04/2025 19:04

Bottlew · 23/04/2025 18:44

There was a consultation regarding the parking fee increase. It disproportionately affects women as they tend to drops off and picks up but they went ahead anyway with increasing the charges. It is quite tough for some to do school and nursery pick up and drop off on public transport.

I don't give a toss about people WFH (I did it during lockdown and hated it) but that really is extraordinarily cunty.

Snorlaxo · 23/04/2025 19:09

It’s understandable that they are pissed off, especially the full time office people who didn’t even get a discounted parking rate l.

It’s easier to be angry at the people who wfh (are they generally better paid?) rather than management.

Love51 · 23/04/2025 19:11

There is a book called Invisible Women: Exposing The Data Bias in a World Designed for Men which talks about that issues you've highlighted, with men's transport patterns bring home to office, and women's being more complex. Are you a big organisation with an Equalities Network / Women's Network which can challenge the decision making process?

Bottlew · 23/04/2025 19:16

Love51 · 23/04/2025 19:11

There is a book called Invisible Women: Exposing The Data Bias in a World Designed for Men which talks about that issues you've highlighted, with men's transport patterns bring home to office, and women's being more complex. Are you a big organisation with an Equalities Network / Women's Network which can challenge the decision making process?

The consultation was done with the women's network and the parents/carers network. Most women objected. They didn't listen to the feedback and went ahead.

We also brought up the issue of women's safety.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyg9mmnewwo#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20recorded%20violent,with%209%2C464%20the%20previous%20year.

They ignored every objection.

Woman waits for train

Rise in reports of violence against women on transport

The British Transport Police says the rise could be down to more victims coming forward.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyg9mmnewwo#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20recorded%20violent,with%209%2C464%20the%20previous%20year.

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MoominMai · 23/04/2025 19:37

Fairyliz · 23/04/2025 17:13

I think you are being a little unsympathetic. You all work for the same organisation and presumably paid similar salaries for similar levels of work. Unfortunately some people also have to spend time commuting and pay increased car parking charges. Can you really not understand why they might be a bit miffed?
Yes I know they can apply for wfh jobs, but this takes time and energy. Also if all office workers did this then salaries for wfh would fall.
Try and be a little more understanding op.

Did you even read the post properly? OP clearly stated she empathised with the office based staff and mentioned the issues that understandably have annoyed them. So why are you having a go at her when all she’s stating is that the staff should be focusing their energies on management who are making these decisions rather than the hybrid staff who are just doing their jobs as per their contracts. She also didn’t say anything about them applying for wfh jobs so not sure why your rant about that.

IHateRain76 · 23/04/2025 19:44

APurpleSquirrel · 23/04/2025 17:17

The flip side is that those who work from home can have higher utilities bills - heating, electricity etc. This may not be comparable to commuting but it’s also a consideration, plus many people dislike working from home.

You can claim them as a tax deduction

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