To think some working-class people glorify struggle and reject improvement out of pride?

[ByBusyOpalHare]

It’s easier to say “I’m real” than to admit you’re scared of change.

What do you mean by "improvement"? Do working class people need improving in some way? They might feel they're good enough just as they are.

So you think all working-class people can just improve themselves? And there’s enough resources available for this to happen?

You’ll need to flesh out your pithy premise, OP.

(WC person happy to embrace change.)

What are you on about?

‘improvement’? 🤨

Oh dear, where to begin!

YABU. That is all.

How are you back again!

It's easier just to be kind than make posts bashing people already struggling as it is.

What kind of change do you think they're scared of?
And working class... define it? Is it people who do manual jobs, builders, dustmen, etc?
Or do you mean people who have generationally lived solely on benefits?
Bit of a weird baity seeming thread tbh.

Well, we unimproved WC are a sad predicament. Wallowing in gutters in our tracksuits cramming chips past our brown teeth.

I know structural inequality is real and resources aren’t evenly distributed. My point wasn’t that everyone can just “improve themselves” easily. It was more about the mindset I’ve seen in some people - where change is available but it’s rejected out of pride, fear, or identity. That’s very different from people being blocked by lack of opportunity.

I think you are going to flesh out your question a little bit. What do you mean by improvement? Self improvement whatever that is, or an indoor bathroom constituting an improvement over a backyard privvy?

Example?

I've never met a working class person who glorifies the struggle.

Fucking hell, what is with all these tedious posts using the exact same format?

Are you asking why what you describe as change isn't viewed as 'improvement' by the people you are talking about?

I don’t mean that working-class people need ‘fixing’ or that they’re not good enough. I meant improvement in the sense of changing circumstances when opportunity exists - like pursuing education, moving to a different area or trying a new way of living. The post was about how some people reject those changes not because they can’t access them but because they associate staying the same with being ‘real’ or loyal to their roots. It’s more about mindset than worth.

Can you elaborate?

Please make it stop.

What change what people what are you talking about?

I'd say there's more of these than genuine posts these days

Are you talking about a particular person or family, OP? What you say sounds both very specific and a massive generalisation, and doesn't ring any bells for me.

By working class I mean people from economically disadvantaged or traditionally labour-based backgrounds - not just people on benefits and definitely not all in the same category. The kind of change I’m talking about included moving out of familiar environments, embracing different social circles, or pursuing things like further education or personal growth - basically things that can feel like a betrayal of identity or roots. It’s not a blanket statement about everyone, just an observation I’ve seen in some cases where pride or comfort with the familiar becomes a barrier.

At least in this thread OP is interacting and trying to explain herself. In many of these 'AIBU to think [insert controversial/ridiculous statement]' they don't bother after the first post.

Are you writing a dissertation or using AI?

Ok but it's a sweeping statement and you sound like an AI. Sorry.