How do I help my friend? (SC ruling related)

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AIBU to blatantly misuse AIBU to ask, how do we stop the insanity arising from the SC ruling.

Sensibly applied it means that those men who have misused the legislation (if that’s the right word) around self ID to have access to vulnerable women can no longer do that, and that crime statistics are going to be more representative, but the reality is that now women who don’t fit the cliched version of a woman are being challenged and kicked out of ladies toilets and changing rooms.

Why is it that my friend who has never hurt anyone has been challenged today, after years of dealing with the stigma around being a gay, non feminine woman, who thought the world was changing, now has to go through this shit again.

It’s so hard, something needed to change, but that change is damaging so many people.

I have no issue with lesbian women - however they present themselves - using the women's toilets because they are women. Likewise trans men. All she has to do is speak as it will be clear from her voice she's a woman even if she is dressed in what I assume is a masculine manner. All women, including your friend, will be safer because of the SC ruling.

I honestly don’t think it will be much of a problem. Half of my women’s rugby friends are butch lesbians and they are not usually mistaken as men!

My dds friend has been challenged in bathrooms, my dd has been told that she isnt allowed to bring her boyfriend into the women's bathrooms, one time in a shopping centre someone got security(a man ironically) and he squared up to her and asked her to leave as she was washing her hands after using the bathroom. Her friend is a 5'10" 16yo lesbian with a 'boys' haircut who wears tracksuits. Her friend doesn't use public toilets anymore, she very much does mind being questioned, she finds it horribly embarrassing as any teenage girl would. It's hard enough for her to be herself amongst friends who have long swishy hair and wear little crop tops and leggings without adults rejecting her.

I don't know what the answer is but I find it disappointing to see people downplaying the affect that being questioned like that can have on you.

urg I have been called mate and sir so many times because I have short hair.
They somehow managed to miss the 36f appendages on my chest.

then you get the males who call me a lesbian (usually after I have knocked them back)

I am glad though for this ruling as I was asexual assault victim and seeing a male in a female space would completely trigger me. It’s the trans movement own fault as they took it too far to the point of being ridiculous. I think it’s telling it’s just the trans women making a fuss and not trans men. That to me says that a lot of people were getting a kick out of demeaning women and getting access to our spaces.

hopefully this is just a few arseholes doing this after the ruling and it will all die down.

Perfectly put

After a terrorist attack innocent people find themselves being searched on entering public buildings. It's not great but you accept it because the terrorists have made it necessary. After a bit it settles down again.

This will settle too once men have found that sneaking into toilets, changing rooms and cheating at sports will no longer be tolerated.

Of course this isn't going to happen very often anyway. The reality is that we can almost always tell the difference. If there's any doubt then speaking usually clears it up and walking around clinches it.

Carrying ID is meaningless since Trans supporters corrupted that system by allowing fake information to be entered.

For the most part those claiming it will happen routinely are the trans activists attempting a last ditch attack on women's rights.