Pavement Parking

[baddrivers]

AIBU to challenge directly people who pull up and park on the pavement (double yellows) whilst talking on their phone?

Their response ‘there’s plenty of room’ and carry on chatting on the phone.

How often are you “challenging” people?

You sound like the Robin Hood of pavement parking

I’d rather someone stopped on double yellows to answer the phone to their children or the doctor or whatever than answers the phone and carried on driving.

If there really is plenty of room, why does it matter?

I walk everywhere and see people with pushchairs being forced to walk on the road. The fact that it needs challenging is the issue, not the person doing it. Don’t victim blame.

It’s been banned in my city apart from deliver drivers. It’s great. As a pedestrian i am sick of seeing broken pavements due to people parking on them. Makes it much safer if you use a wheelchair, push a buggy, have a dog, are visually impaired, mobility issues…

carry on challenging I say, I do the same

Oh behave! 😂

how often are you challenging them Robin Hood?

When you say “banned” what do you mean? They will be issued with a PCN?

Was there plenty of room? Maybe it was an emergency?

We all need to rub along in the world, a 2 minute stop, when someone has something that’s important to deal with, when everyone can pass - no problems. Someone parking for hours, blocking access, massive problem.

Ffs life happens. If they are on the phone then presumably they are conscientious people who pull over rather than talk and drive.
sometimes calls have to be taken. Calls from doctors, hospitals, school where it may be an immediate issue or where if you don’t take the call you are back to square one for a serious health condition for weeks.

people need to stop being jobsworths and realise that rules are not some fixed in stone thing. They are societal guidelines that sometimes don’t fit the situation

killing someone’s is bad. Killing someone to protect your child isn’t

shoving a child over is bad. Shoving a child out of the path of an oncoming car isn’t

speeding is bad. Speeding with care because your passenger is having a heart attack isn’t.

kicking a dog is bad. Kicking the shit out of a dog because it has your toddler in its jaws isn’t.

stop being a pendant and have some critical thinking.

They were definitely on the phone before parking, outside a school and GP practice.

I get the feeling those disagreeing don’t walk places much. The dangerous and inconsiderate parking I see everywhere does make me feel the need to challenge.

Pavements are for people not cars. It’s not safe for people to walk in the road, parking on the pavement outside a busy GP practice is dangerous for elderly and people in wheelchairs. I see people parked on pavements outside a primary school so school children have to walk on the road during busy pick up and drop off. There’s no defending that.

It should be illegal everywhere. And not a measly fine, but a driving ban if convicted.

Permitting it is a form of discrimination against those using wheelchairs or with a child in a pram.

Was there space for people to walk though?

Victim blame?!
Fucking hell...🤦🏼‍♀️😂

If you are certain you’re right, why the AIBU question at all?

They get a PCN where I am. Think about £100

Yes it should be challenged.

Need to take a call? Fine.
need to pull over to do it? Fine.

But park so that people can get passed. I’m fed up with having to go back and find a dropped curb to go along the road with my son in his wheelchair. And remain in the road until another dropped curb comes up.

That places him more at risk than a car/van parked a little in the road drivers can see better and will go round at a safer distance.

How are you observing multiple people parking in the pavement whilst already on the phone

it’s always amazes me when people claim to see dozens of a behaviour I haven’t ever seen.

I’ve seen cars parked up on pavements. But I’ve never witnessed the parking happening and noticed they were on the phone and yet you’ve seen it many times 🧐

If people with pushchairs & wheelchairs can still get through then I wouldn’t bother.

Your first post implied that people were pulling over to make or take a phone call - which although wrong, is sometimes unavoidable.

Now you're talking about people parking and waiting in places that are dangerous. This is clearly not on (and parking on pavements is illegal in Scotland), but I would not recommend confronting drivers directly about this. If it's a regular occurrence, or the car has been parked and left for hours, I would notify the police on a non-emergency number.

Inconsiderate parking is a problem around our schools, and the police periodically ticket everyone illegally parked, or blocking drives so that the owners cannot get out.

Pavements are for people, not cars, flower planters of humungus sizes, street furniture, shop signs , etc!!
Very litter space left on our town pavements for pedestrians.

The dropped kerb parking is a pain. I have a smaller mobility scooter and look for dropped kerbs to cross the road because bumping it makes the scooter unstable. The dropped kerbs are often blocked by parked cars. My scooter is light enough to lift up/down a normal kerb, but it does mean I have to get myself completely out of it, if there's no one with me to help. How people with heavy electric wheelchairs manage, I have no idea.

I think you're conflating 2 things OP

Parking on a pavement and fucking off leaving your car blocking it for ages is a dick move - but quickly pulling over and remaining in the car while you take a call is quite different

I also think it's odd you make it sound like this is happening on a regular basis - I walk lots and can't remember ever seeing someone pull over to take call. I think you've (rightly) got annoyed with people parking on the pavement and taken it out on the wrong person

How people with heavy electric wheelchairs manage, I have no idea.

It's easy.

1. Find the next one if there is one. If not go back home,assuming your return journey doesn't feature a blocked dropped kerb. Sometimes the next one can be a quarter mile along so that could be a half mile detour.

2. Wait. After all as we all know when people block dropped kerbs they will only be "a minute"

3. (probably the best optio). Don't be so selfish as to go out in the first place.

4. call the police. They won't do anything, but at least you will know the time.

It’s not really conflating two things, it’s still pavement parking. It’s just rare that I catch the driver doing it.

Theres no telling if that person was going to park their car there.l and leave it. This time I witnessed it outside a busy GP practice, blocking the way for anyone taking their child in a push chair or anyone in a wheelchair, so yes, it’s right to challenge.

The road was perfectly wide enough to park on the double yellows, the pavement was unnecessary.

Please tell me that was a lazy copy and paste rather than typing out all that shite

Either way you spelt pedant wrong

Flower planters are very effective ways of keeping cars off of the pavement.