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To find it interesting how the UK is apparently having a 'Christian revival'?

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BonxBonx · 12/04/2025 11:08

I was watching the news the other day and they were talking about how there has been a big increase in church attendance over the past couple of years, particularly among Gen Z. Anecdotally, I have seen a few friends (in our mid-to-late 20s) 'find God' and start going to church over the past couple of years. Not just passively attending either; actively engaging in Bible classes and retreats. My TikTok is also showing me a lot of this - British 20-somethings talking about their Christianity.

I find it really interesting, especially the timing of it. With the advances in science and us having been a pretty atheist society for a while now, I am surprised. Is it a consequence of being on the back end of the pandemic followed by a cost-of-living crisis that people are looking for answers outside of themselves? I know when things get hard I find myself praying, even when I don't believe in God. Is this an example of that kind of thinking but on a bigger scale?

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Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:51

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 16:49

A family with married heterosexual parents. No space for anything else. And Christians, particularly Catholics and the “new” Christians, are generally anti contraception and anti choice.

Oh okay. So any heterosexual couple with a CofE or Catholic faith is right wing?

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:53

SorcererGaheris · 12/04/2025 16:51

Not that it matters, but I get the impression that they're not of a religious faith at all. You're entitled to ask them if they belong to a religion, but equally, they don't have to share that information with you if they don't want to.

Didn’t say they did 🤷‍♀️
What’s you point?

Kreisler · 12/04/2025 16:53

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:49

Aww have I hit a nerve? I will say and ask what I want. You are either not British or you are of a religious faith that hates Christianity

That was your point?

It's not a very good one, have to say, especially after such a build-up.

suburburban · 12/04/2025 16:56

SorcererGaheris · 12/04/2025 16:43

Interestingly didn't Jesus say it's easier for a camel to to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

@ElizaMulvil

That's one of the quotations that led to me turning away from Christianity in the end. I'm the type who gets quite attached to their favourite celebrities (who naturally become quite rich through the popularity of their work) and I remember being around 13 years old and being tearful at the thought of the celebrities I cared for (who had already died) spending an eternity in Hell, simply because they'd become rich.

Thankfully, although I still strongly believe in a spirit world/afterlife, I no longer view it through a Heaven and Hell lens. I think it will be an improvement on this world overall, though, and sometimes actively look forward to being there.

You are over thinking that quote

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:58

Kreisler · 12/04/2025 16:53

That was your point?

It's not a very good one, have to say, especially after such a build-up.

My point is you are critical of Christianity in a British country and you are saying that it’s a terrible thing for women’s rights.
History (British) will show this to be untrue due to our current laws and protection.
But hey, you carry on dude 👍

Kreisler · 12/04/2025 16:59

SorcererGaheris · 12/04/2025 16:51

Not that it matters, but I get the impression that they're not of a religious faith at all. You're entitled to ask them if they belong to a religion, but equally, they don't have to share that information with you if they don't want to.

Thank you.

Perhaps this poster is modelling their debating style on the Spanish inquisition.

AliasGrace47 · 12/04/2025 17:01

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:20

Are you in Britain? Are you following a particular religion?
I have more rights and protection as a woman here than a lot of other countries.

So, please enlighten me how gen z are going to bring harm towards women

Christianity can be good for women as I said upthread & is generally better than others for women, but let's not pretend there aren't issues. Many American evangelical churches preach complementarianism which often seems to entail the wife obeying the husband as St Paul recommended. Not to mention women being barred from the priesthood as sinful for them to lead. I know not all believe this, esp UK.

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 17:03

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:51

Oh okay. So any heterosexual couple with a CofE or Catholic faith is right wing?

No. But anybody, regardless of religion, who uses the term “family values” is.

AliasGrace47 · 12/04/2025 17:03

Plus issues like opposition to abortion & contraception, pressure for women to not work and have many kids. I know these do not apply to many Christians but rising evangelicalism & Catholicism worries me for that reason.

ballroompink · 12/04/2025 17:04

RaraRachael · 12/04/2025 14:13

Well there's certainly no revival around here as all the smaller churches are closing by 2027 to amalgamate with the biggest one. We have an average Sunday congregation of 20 to 30 and as older members die, nobody replaces them.

The problem for churches like this is, people wanting to find a new church or those who have just become Christians are often drawn to the 'thriving' churches - bigger, range of ages, etc. So the 'revival' doesn't seem apparent in these churches that have 20 pensioners on a good day.

TheNinny · 12/04/2025 17:04

some elements of the red pill movement e.g. red pill influencers like Roosh (before he became orthodox and quit completely) encourage taking care of yourself and finding a faith (usually christianity) as it’s good for self discipline and might lead to finding a trad /conservative wife. It’s mainly a push for catholicism or the orthodox churches.

I’ve also seen a big uptake of homeschool/worldschool/mummy/homesteading instas and blogs encouraging and discussing their faith. I think this was an influencing gen z in a big way that generations didn’t have before and it’s mainly been portrayed on tv etc in a negative way.

Im a church goer but haven’t seen any change in young people coming to the denomination I’m in though.

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:09

AliasGrace47 · 12/04/2025 17:01

Christianity can be good for women as I said upthread & is generally better than others for women, but let's not pretend there aren't issues. Many American evangelical churches preach complementarianism which often seems to entail the wife obeying the husband as St Paul recommended. Not to mention women being barred from the priesthood as sinful for them to lead. I know not all believe this, esp UK.

We all know about priests penchant for young boys, we all know about the mother and baby homes. We know that the Archbishop of Canterbury protected a pedophile.
When it comes to UK law enforcement it’s irrelevant.
A revival in Christianity does not equate to an erosion of any rights or freedoms that we have.
Bible bashes have as much clout as I do, which is zero

SorcererGaheris · 12/04/2025 17:12

suburburban · 12/04/2025 16:56

You are over thinking that quote

@suburburban

Maybe I was, but I was 13 years old at the time.

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:12

AliasGrace47 · 12/04/2025 17:03

Plus issues like opposition to abortion & contraception, pressure for women to not work and have many kids. I know these do not apply to many Christians but rising evangelicalism & Catholicism worries me for that reason.

So you think government will cave in to a Christian zealot group? You think that because someone who believes in a ‘god’ will undermine uk laws?

suburburban · 12/04/2025 17:13

SorcererGaheris · 12/04/2025 17:12

@suburburban

Maybe I was, but I was 13 years old at the time.

Of course 😀

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:17

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 17:03

No. But anybody, regardless of religion, who uses the term “family values” is.

Oh okay, so if anybody repeats the phrase ‘family values’ is a right wing zealot regardless of religion?
Is this the same judgement people give to Muslims when they use the term ‘Allahu Akbar’ and label them terrorists?

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 17:19

@MadcatdudetteThe Christian Right has a lot of power in the States. It is naive to think the same could not happen in the UK.

PishPish · 12/04/2025 17:19

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:58

My point is you are critical of Christianity in a British country and you are saying that it’s a terrible thing for women’s rights.
History (British) will show this to be untrue due to our current laws and protection.
But hey, you carry on dude 👍

I’m an Irish cradle Catholic, and let me tell you, Catholicism is terrible for women. Want to be able to control your own fertility, terminate an unwanted or unviable pregnancy, want to have sex without bring open to the possibility of conception .every single time you have sex, want to see women in positions of equal leadership in your church hierarchy, want to see justice for those illegally adopted babies and incarcerated women? Then don’t be a Catholic.

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 17:19

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:17

Oh okay, so if anybody repeats the phrase ‘family values’ is a right wing zealot regardless of religion?
Is this the same judgement people give to Muslims when they use the term ‘Allahu Akbar’ and label them terrorists?

No.

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:24

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 17:19

No.

No? You think it’s different?

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:25

PishPish · 12/04/2025 17:19

I’m an Irish cradle Catholic, and let me tell you, Catholicism is terrible for women. Want to be able to control your own fertility, terminate an unwanted or unviable pregnancy, want to have sex without bring open to the possibility of conception .every single time you have sex, want to see women in positions of equal leadership in your church hierarchy, want to see justice for those illegally adopted babies and incarcerated women? Then don’t be a Catholic.

I agree, it’s the followers of any religion that keep perpetuating this nonsense

CanYouTurnItDown · 12/04/2025 17:27

myplace · 12/04/2025 15:32

Were you there, @CanYouTurnItDown ? I don’t actually think the appalling safeguarding stuff, and the mother and baby homes in Ireland, had made it into the mainstream consciousness at that point. It was just the beginning.

It was more about braces and striped shirts, moving away from home for a better job, and breaking the power of the unions, if I remember correctly.

I was.

SorcererGaheris · 12/04/2025 17:27

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 16:53

Didn’t say they did 🤷‍♀️
What’s you point?

@Madcatdudette

No, you didn't say they had to give you the information. However, the 'have I hit a nerve' comment came across as a little insensitive to the fact that they clearly don't want to reveal that info.

BlueAquaBlue · 12/04/2025 17:28

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 12/04/2025 11:20

We are, which is terrifying for me

Single mums, sen children are all the target of this lots hatred, and they're getting louder and more powerful, with their 'good family values'

I'd be interested to know why you think this?

I've been a member of several churches over the years (not all the same denomination as my current one) and I've never heard anyone say anything negative about single mums and especially not children with SEN - quite the opposite.

Madcatdudette · 12/04/2025 17:28

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 17:19

@MadcatdudetteThe Christian Right has a lot of power in the States. It is naive to think the same could not happen in the UK.

I’m naive it won’t happen in Britain? What are your thoughts on people fearing an Islamic uprising?