To find it interesting how the UK is apparently having a 'Christian revival'?

[BonxBonx]

I was watching the news the other day and they were talking about how there has been a big increase in church attendance over the past couple of years, particularly among Gen Z. Anecdotally, I have seen a few friends (in our mid-to-late 20s) 'find God' and start going to church over the past couple of years. Not just passively attending either; actively engaging in Bible classes and retreats. My TikTok is also showing me a lot of this - British 20-somethings talking about their Christianity.

I find it really interesting, especially the timing of it. With the advances in science and us having been a pretty atheist society for a while now, I am surprised. Is it a consequence of being on the back end of the pandemic followed by a cost-of-living crisis that people are looking for answers outside of themselves? I know when things get hard I find myself praying, even when I don't believe in God. Is this an example of that kind of thinking but on a bigger scale?

It’s always a very specific type of very traditional family. And one that does not value women’s rights.

Why do you equate this with the right?
Is it just Christianity you have issues with or is it all religions?

Not really. Sometimes people just need to voice stuff they don’t necessarily want to say to actual people. I sometimes ‘pray’ but at the same time I’ll say I know you don’t exist but I’m just saying it anyway. I’m as sure as I can be there isn’t anthing listening but I still do it.

A very specific type of traditional family? Please elaborate.
Why would Christianity or Catholicism be considered a detriment to women’s right?

I sometimes ‘pray’ but at the same time I’ll say I know you don’t exist but I’m just saying it anyway. I’m as sure as I can be there isn’t anthing listening but I still do it.

Kind of like twitter, then.

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Are you taking the piss?

And why would you think I’m taking the piss?

I'm not overly religious and I know this is very annecdotal, but I think that's a bit of a sweeping generalisation.

My son is autistic and our local church play group was one of the only ones I felt really welcome at. My friend (who is very religious, comes from a very Christian family) has a daughter with additional needs and has never had issues where she lives, there are many families with Sen kids at the church she attends and they all help eachother.

However I do worry that the newer/sudden uptake in "Christian values" is very likely a thinly veiled way to spread fear and anger over anyone "other" particularly other races/cultures etc. There's no denying the right wing is taking over and unfortunately they'll use many tactics to recruit people to their ways.

Because I don't believe there is a person alive who is unaware of what Christianity and the catholic church has done to women.

Are you in Britain? Are you following a particular religion?
I have more rights and protection as a woman here than a lot of other countries.

So, please enlighten me how gen z are going to bring harm towards women

I'm not quite following your train of thought, sorry.

I’ve never gone on twitter so I’m not sure what you mean (sorry).

It's people talking into the abyss.

I think it goes hand in hand with social problems - particularly the out of control drug use we have going on here.

A lot of affordable rehabs are tied to Christian organisations.

Are you a British Citizen and do you follow a particular religion?

I can assure you that as a teenager in Ireland in the 1980s, in a country which was essentially a theocracy (contraception illegal, abortion illegal, divorce illegal because that was the church’s position), educated at convent schools because that was all there was, stickering public toilets with the abortion information helpline number, borrowing money to travel to the UK with friends for a termination and watching them bleed on the ferry home, I was absolutely aware of the sexed oppressiveness of Catholicism.

And everyone knew about the laundries, long before it started leaking into the public discourse as a scandal. That’s the shocking part. I live next door now to a former laundry. All the town’s biggest hotels and most well-to-do businesses and households, the army, boarding schools, anywhere with staff uniforms, sent their linen there. People from around used to go into the laundry chapel to Mass on feast days. The older people around here used to have some of the more institutionalised women to clean their houses. It was known about.

Rehabs are NHS for the majority of working class addicts. Affordable rehab is not a thing the average addict

That’s why Christian rehabs are swooping in and taking people who can’t afford it and are desperate for help.

Source: a family member just completed Christian rehab.

Interestingly didn't Jesus say it's easier for a camel to to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

@ElizaMulvil

That's one of the quotations that led to me turning away from Christianity in the end. I'm the type who gets quite attached to their favourite celebrities (who naturally become quite rich through the popularity of their work) and I remember being around 13 years old and being tearful at the thought of the celebrities I cared for (who had already died) spending an eternity in Hell, simply because they'd become rich.

Thankfully, although I still strongly believe in a spirit world/afterlife, I no longer view it through a Heaven and Hell lens. I think it will be an improvement on this world overall, though, and sometimes actively look forward to being there.

None of your business. Can you make your point without referencing my personal circumstances please?

Christian rehab. Is this a private rehab facility in Britain or Ireland?

My free church is full of young families as well as people from all other age groups.

Its definitely about community - building your ‘village’ - friendships - supporting our town and those who are vulnerable - teaching good values to your children - and finding a purpose and meaning and guidance in modern life

A family with married heterosexual parents. No space for anything else. And Christians, particularly Catholics and the “new” Christians, are generally anti contraception and anti choice.

Aww have I hit a nerve? I will say and ask what I want. You are either not British or you are of a religious faith that hates Christianity

Not that it matters, but I get the impression that they're not of a religious faith at all. You're entitled to ask them if they belong to a religion, but equally, they don't have to share that information with you if they don't want to.