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Blue badge police again

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Rainburstflowers · 11/04/2025 09:00

Name changes for this as I do every so often.
I have blue badge but my disability is not visible.
For the 3rs time in 2 weeks I have been challenged about not looking disabled and I am fed up of explaining myself

yesterday got out the car and this man came charging towards me shouting “oi you don’t have a blue badge”. I sighed and said “yes I do”. He then said “where did you nick that from?”
I said “I didn’t nick it from anyone I got it off eBay”
He then looked at me and said “oh right and walked off”
as if that was then ok!!!!
or it could be my built like a brick shithouse husband opened his door and got out the drivers seat.

I know I should not have said the eBay comment but I am fed up of explaining myself.

if anyone has any good comebacks please let me know

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Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 09:57

Laurmolonlabe · 13/04/2025 09:52

They wouldn't contact anyone- the average take up of any details to look into something are around 1 in 10,000.

Yep, because BB police prefer to publicly harangue disabled people when all they have to do is take the badge number and report their concerns to the issuing authority. Who then probably file them under ‘doesn’t look disabled enough’ !!

sashh · 13/04/2025 10:04

I was diagnosed with arthritis at 26. So I have had a blue badge for decades and yes people have asked me about it or assumed I'd borrowed it, "Is that your Nan's badge?"

Tiring isn't it.

Coco1379 · 13/04/2025 10:09

Just a point - you are not allowed to use the blue badge if the disabled person stays in the car. Not practical I know. I had the problem with my dad who was so short of breath he couldn’t walk. I had dropped him off at the beach and parked elsewhere and then when I wanted to use a disabled bay to pick him up police said that was not allowed. I can’t remember how we solved the problem but it was very awkward.

Mummymoomingrumpy · 13/04/2025 10:15

Iamthequeenoftheworld · 11/04/2025 11:16

Umm the first one.

maybe the guy was faking, but

just so you know, there are some disabilities that affect a person like that. I have a relative. His condition is extremely variable. Like extremely, even can change every 20 minutes drastically. On good moments, he faster than an able bodied person. There are days/hours/minutes he can run, goes to gym, and next day he needs a wheelchair and his moms help to use the toilet and bathe. Not even days. Hours, minutes. He can run one minute, the next minute he crawls on the floor.

he has this since he was a little kid, would play on monkey bars and run around with other kids, then one minute his mom would be picking him off the floor

if I didn’t grow up with him, and live with his family for some time, wouldn’t believe it myself

when he has good moments, he gets happy and uses the opportunity to sprint and run around

people have to understand, there are so many illnesses that are very complex, it’s not just paralyzed guy in wheelchair etc

Edited

The guy running maybe also had bowel condition - had to get to the toilet fast!

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 10:28

Coco1379 · 13/04/2025 10:09

Just a point - you are not allowed to use the blue badge if the disabled person stays in the car. Not practical I know. I had the problem with my dad who was so short of breath he couldn’t walk. I had dropped him off at the beach and parked elsewhere and then when I wanted to use a disabled bay to pick him up police said that was not allowed. I can’t remember how we solved the problem but it was very awkward.

The police were wrong. You can park in a disabled bay, displaying the badge if you are picking up or dropping off the disabled person to whom the badge belongs. For example if you were returning to pick him up from the beach, and he is walking/being wheeled back to the car then you would park in a disabled bay nearest where you were collecting him, displaying his badge, as he is the one benefitting. What you can’t do is park in a disabled bay if the disabled person is not the one getting out. If you’re in any doubt you can ask your local authority for the guidance leaflet on how to use a disabled badge legally.

MyFuturePlans · 13/04/2025 10:33

Laurmolonlabe · 13/04/2025 09:52

They wouldn't contact anyone- the average take up of any details to look into something are around 1 in 10,000.

They check the blue badges for fraud, aka check it is a genuine card. This happened to me last week whilst parked up to shop in the nearest city to where I live

LadyKenya · 13/04/2025 10:33

Coco1379 · 13/04/2025 10:09

Just a point - you are not allowed to use the blue badge if the disabled person stays in the car. Not practical I know. I had the problem with my dad who was so short of breath he couldn’t walk. I had dropped him off at the beach and parked elsewhere and then when I wanted to use a disabled bay to pick him up police said that was not allowed. I can’t remember how we solved the problem but it was very awkward.

If he had to walk further as a result, then that sounds wrong. The point of the BB is to facilitate him, when he is out, and about.

keffie12 · 13/04/2025 10:44

My usual response that shocks people and I also have a sticker of this on my mobility scooter is

"I don't look disabled - and you don't look stupid but clearly we are both wrong" leaves people stunned.

I had a pearler on the bus some years ago.

Two older women got on. The bus was packed. I was in a disabled seat with access allowed for persons with a baby buggy.

They started complaining about people taking seats they weren't entitled too.

1 woman had a baby in a buggy, the other woman looked clearly disabled, and I didn't.

The 2 other women said to the older women "do you mean us?" They said "oh no no not you"

I then said " you obviously mean me!"

I then showed them my disabled bus pass saying " I will swap you my invisible health conditions happily for an able bodied persons. I have fibromyalgia, a stomach and bowel condition and significant mental health issues. Just because I don't look like a bag lady doesn't mean I'm not disabled. Don't judge s book by it's cover"

Clearly they were stunned and looked away. They were only in the bus for 2 stops before they get off anyway 🙄

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 10:53

LadyKenya · 13/04/2025 10:33

If he had to walk further as a result, then that sounds wrong. The point of the BB is to facilitate him, when he is out, and about.

It is wrong. One of the problems facing disabled people is that many police and parking wardens don’t fully understand the rules. I was parked perfectly legally on double yellow lines, displaying the clock and badge. I came back to the car to find a warden writing a ticket. No amount of pointing out that l wasn’t causing an obstruction or otherwise contravening blue badge rules would suffice because she was adamant l just wasn’t allowed to park on double yellows. I successfully challenged the ticket - total waste of time and money for all concerned.

Labelledelune · 13/04/2025 10:53

Start breathing irregularly and tell them you think you’re having a heart attack.

northerneast · 13/04/2025 10:56

Coco1379 · 13/04/2025 10:09

Just a point - you are not allowed to use the blue badge if the disabled person stays in the car. Not practical I know. I had the problem with my dad who was so short of breath he couldn’t walk. I had dropped him off at the beach and parked elsewhere and then when I wanted to use a disabled bay to pick him up police said that was not allowed. I can’t remember how we solved the problem but it was very awkward.

Why were the police there and why were they interested in your parking?

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 11:00

MyFuturePlans · 13/04/2025 10:33

They check the blue badges for fraud, aka check it is a genuine card. This happened to me last week whilst parked up to shop in the nearest city to where I live

That would be a legitimate parking warden not a random nosy on the street !!

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 11:03

northerneast · 13/04/2025 10:56

Why were the police there and why were they interested in your parking?

The police do random checks on disabled badges - especially if it’s on street parking and near a tourist type attraction. If it was a routine check and the disabled person wasn’t in the car they would question the situation. And in this case they got it wrong. OP was perfectly entitled to park in a disabled bay and display her dads badge if she was picking him up - it’s for his benefit.

spicemaiden · 13/04/2025 11:28

Tessasanderson · 11/04/2025 09:44

I can never understand blue badge holders moaning about this. Can they not see that the person doing the asking is trying to protect the blue badge holders right to that space?

In the current society there are not many people who will actually put themselves out for whats right and wrong. See someone getting beaten up, turn away. See someone stealing, turn away. See someone parking in a disabled space to protect their Range Rover, turn away.

So once in a while they get it wrong and ask someone with a not obvious disability if they are genuine. Is that such a hardship for someone actually having some social concerns?

Or maybe they just start to wonder if its worth it, ignore it all and let blue badge holders cry about lack of parking in future because no one gives a stuff.

Wow.

Markovenchip · 13/04/2025 11:36

Personally I would say nothing to the blue-badge screaming and shouting pedants, I have to drive my sister around, she is blue-badge, I am not, I'm also 6'4" and built like a Tram Shed, but I'm not remotely aggressive, and would never be, a book shouldn't be judged by it's cover (as I have been, for decades) nothing has happened as yet, but if someone did yell at me, I wouldn't even look at them, let alone respond, just go about my business.......😊

myfaceismyown · 13/04/2025 11:43

There are 3 BB spaces outside our Asda invariably filled with SUVs who don't display badges... I do glare at them as I hobble past with my aid but too timid to say anything to the men in the drivers seats on their phones. Yes I have a BB, would appreciate being able to find a space to use it!

Matildalamp · 13/04/2025 12:15

I saw a fairly fit, healthy looking man coming out of a disabled toilet be accosted by an older man with a stick. The dead stare as he lifted up his t-shirt to show his stoma, and then walked away. Older man with stick spluttering and “how was I to know”-ing. Older lady with stick “shut up, get in the loo if you’re going, and let this be a lesson to mind you own business” 😂

Frozenpeace · 13/04/2025 12:21

While I don't blame him for showing it, the problem is that that kind of behaviour reinforces the idea that disabilities are visible. There are so many profoundly disabling conditions where there is nothing to "show"

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 13/04/2025 12:44

Cesarina · 12/04/2025 20:12

I think you may need to read what I actually said. Legally/lawfully people without disabilities can use accessible toilets.
I do have an idea that that is correct, via the 2010 Equality Act. Not sure how much more evidence you need?
But not if a disabled person is using it, (which of course goes without saying), or is waiting to use it.
Please tell me where I condoned that it was ok for someone without a disability to use the accessible toilet, ahead of someone, (disabled, I assume you meant), who needed it urgently, because I didn't.
My reference to the Act makes it clear that that is unacceptable.
Hope that helps.

If you read what I actually said. I said I didn't know about the legalities but morally it was a dick move.

Please tell where where I said you condoned it? 🤔

northerneast · 13/04/2025 14:03

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 11:03

The police do random checks on disabled badges - especially if it’s on street parking and near a tourist type attraction. If it was a routine check and the disabled person wasn’t in the car they would question the situation. And in this case they got it wrong. OP was perfectly entitled to park in a disabled bay and display her dads badge if she was picking him up - it’s for his benefit.

I had no idea this was under police ‘duties’ - particularly strange as they didn’t seem to know the rules they should be checking people for.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 14:25

northerneast · 13/04/2025 14:03

I had no idea this was under police ‘duties’ - particularly strange as they didn’t seem to know the rules they should be checking people for.

Any police officer or parking warden can ask to see the badge at any time. Where disabled parking is on street, if they see something that doesn’t look right they will ask to see the badge. Sometimes their interpretation of the rules around parking on double yellow lines or how the badge is used in a disabled bay is not correct, as evidenced by OP being wrongly told she couldn’t park in a disabled bay when picking up her dad - the badge holder.

WiddlinDiddlin · 13/04/2025 14:29

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 08:15

IME no one who genuinely has and needs a BB forgets it, or parks in a BB without displaying it.

I would politely challenge someone l saw leaving a car in a BB space without displaying a badge. I think that’s acceptable because they’re breaking the law - the offence is parking in a BB space without displaying a badge, and producing the badge after you’ve received a fine won’t mean a thing because the law applies equally whether you don’t have a badge, or whether you just forgot to bring it with you.

The important distinction here is that if someone is displaying a badge, then no-one has the right to challenge at all. They’re not doing anything wrong and my advice to self appointed BB police is not to delude yourselves - you’re not ‘protecting’ disabled people from fraud, you’re harassing disabled people for no reason. The reason they have the badge is between them, their healthcare professionals and the issuing authority. You have no right to examine or handle the badge and they don’t have to explain their disability to you. If you think there is something amiss take the badge number and report it so that the actual authorities can deal with it. Trust me, a car park slanging match reflects much worse on you than the person you’re challenging.

Oh, and on the back of personal experience from being challenged, no not all disabled people drive motability cars and there’s no way to tell without looking at the log book. And just because l’m going into Morrisons at midday doesn’t mean l should ‘get a job you lazy scrounger’. I already have one and it’s my lunch hour.

Edited

I have, when I could travel in non-adapted cars, I was forever leaving it in my sisters car!

I've also come back to the car to find its fell off the dash board.

My bestie forgot to renew hers for almost a bloody year once!

Disabled folks are just as fallible as everyone else... but in any case, you've missed my point quite spectacularly.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 14:30

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 13/04/2025 12:44

If you read what I actually said. I said I didn't know about the legalities but morally it was a dick move.

Please tell where where I said you condoned it? 🤔

Unfortunately disabled people don’t always get priority. I’m a wheelchair user and have a stoma. There was a queue for the ladies toilet in my local supermarket, so I tried to use the accessible loo and was told by a member of staff that I would have to wait my turn because there was a queue and that they had included the accessible toilet to speed things along. I ended up abandoning my shopping and going home because my stoma needed attention. I actually emailed the store manager but got nowhere.

FitAt50 · 13/04/2025 14:36

My mother used to really through them off track with "I have terminal cancer, is that enough for you".

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/04/2025 14:39

WiddlinDiddlin · 13/04/2025 14:29

I have, when I could travel in non-adapted cars, I was forever leaving it in my sisters car!

I've also come back to the car to find its fell off the dash board.

My bestie forgot to renew hers for almost a bloody year once!

Disabled folks are just as fallible as everyone else... but in any case, you've missed my point quite spectacularly.

I got your point thanks. And my point was that the law is the law, regardless of whether you don’t have a badge and are taking the mick, or you have one and have left it at home. No badge, no parking. There is a difference between fallible and careless. Been a disability outreach worker for many years and don’t know anyone with a casual attitude towards their badge because it’s so important for access when you have difficulties, and generally disabled people can’t really afford repeated hefty fines.

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