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One day old baby in pub

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Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:27

So family member gave birth to first baby yesterday afternoon, she's a very young mum only 17 , normal delivery but episiotomy, baby good weight healthy. Was discharged home today and a couple of hours later was at the local pub not drinking alcohol just showing baby off and eating a meal , but am I right in thinking a day old baby baby is really too young to be in a pub or anywhere really , also worried she should be resting as obviously will be sore. Other family members have said I'm being old fashioned am I.

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Gogogo12345 · 10/04/2025 16:04

Grammarninja · 10/04/2025 14:51

No issue at all if she's breastfeeding as the baby would have her immunity.

At a day old the baby would have it no matter how she was feeding

Anonym00se · 10/04/2025 16:06

I discharged myself before I’d even delivered the placenta, and took DC clubbing in a sling. He loved it.

Gogogo12345 · 10/04/2025 16:08

newmumtobe1989 · 10/04/2025 15:40

In general babies need quiet environments, soft voice, time and space to bond with mum. If the pub is crowded, people shouting, loud music and baby is passed around for people to see that can overwhelm them and make them restless. Also if there lots of people, the risk of catching something is higher and babies do not have the immune system to fight anything nor allowed Calpol until they are 2 months old to fight fever. Unless it’s a quiet place with not too many people there, it might be okay. I appreciate everyone’s opinion is different so it is up to carers to decide 😊xx

I guess you haven't been in a pub that does meals on a weekday afternoon then. Usually 3 or 4 of the 16 tables occupied. Often an elderly couple or 2 or a young family.

The coffee shops are busier

Reallyyyyyy · 10/04/2025 16:30

I went with dh and our 3 other kids on a farm park day trip at 7 days. As long as they are both happy and healthy and want to, it's absolutely fine.

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/04/2025 16:32

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 15:17

Untrue, newborn babies are more at risk, read the links.

Edited

I can't find any links that state newborns are more at risk to sepsis? I also can't find any links that say newborns should be kept away from people for weeks, just to use precaution which is sensible.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 10/04/2025 16:36

newmumtobe1989 · 10/04/2025 15:40

In general babies need quiet environments, soft voice, time and space to bond with mum. If the pub is crowded, people shouting, loud music and baby is passed around for people to see that can overwhelm them and make them restless. Also if there lots of people, the risk of catching something is higher and babies do not have the immune system to fight anything nor allowed Calpol until they are 2 months old to fight fever. Unless it’s a quiet place with not too many people there, it might be okay. I appreciate everyone’s opinion is different so it is up to carers to decide 😊xx

None of that available on the ward and we were stuck there for 4 days. I would’ve much rather be in a pub midweek , during the day and going home after, but them’s the breaks.

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/04/2025 16:40

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 10/04/2025 16:36

None of that available on the ward and we were stuck there for 4 days. I would’ve much rather be in a pub midweek , during the day and going home after, but them’s the breaks.

Similar when it isn't your first baby either. No one has a calm and quiet house when they have a toddler at home. 😂

Dabrat21 · 10/04/2025 16:42

doreeen · 10/04/2025 12:58

What about a cafe?

Nope, not a Cafe either. Especially not a pub where there is alcohol and likely intoxicated people. On day one of my babies life I would be at home/hospital resting with baby. That’s just me.

Pickingmyselfup · 10/04/2025 16:49

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 10/04/2025 16:36

None of that available on the ward and we were stuck there for 4 days. I would’ve much rather be in a pub midweek , during the day and going home after, but them’s the breaks.

Exactly, hospitals are certainly not quiet with all the people coming and going, babies crying, mums crying.

My house with child #1 was fairly quiet but I had 2 noisy cats.

With child #2 I had a very noisy toddler who loved nothing more than to drop toys on the laminate flooring.

By contrast my local pub was a ghost town weekday afternoons (I also worked there so child #2 was carted about to see everybody as soon as I could walk the distance)!

Now I work in more of a cafe and it's so much busier but we still have tiny babies coming in, many of them are getting big now and have managed to survive the carnage of talking people, coffee making and just general hustle and hustle.

I've not seen a single newborn be manhandled by a ramdomer, most of us have just peered in the pram at arms lengths and gone "aww"

Ultimately germs are everywhere and completely unavoidable unless you seal yourself in a bubble. Even if you do shut yourself a way you are only reducing the risk, not eliminating it. In my eyes the risk of something terrible happening to my newborn baby tucked up in a pram not in contact with anything in the big wide wold is so low but the risk to my mental health by being isolated is extremely high. There is more risk when they are touching everything even when they are vaccinated.

Gogogo12345 · 10/04/2025 16:52

Dabrat21 · 10/04/2025 16:42

Nope, not a Cafe either. Especially not a pub where there is alcohol and likely intoxicated people. On day one of my babies life I would be at home/hospital resting with baby. That’s just me.

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You must know some dodgy old pubs if they are full of pissed up people on a weekday afternoon. If you avoid wetherspoons in a crappy area I doubt most are like that.

LSmiff · 10/04/2025 16:55

She’s 17, sounds like a proud mom. Although I can’t imagine many would do it.

SingingSands · 10/04/2025 17:03

Years ago (22 years!) there was a tiny one day old baby in our local pub and the mum was smoking like a chimney all over her. I was pregnant at the time, sitting with my back to the family and hadn't said a word but her friend said something about me being pregnant (with regards to the smoke) and she nastily and loudly snarled "well the silly cow can move if she wants, I ain't stopping her". Charming.

So it could be a lot worse, at least pubs are smoke free now.

KaToby · 10/04/2025 17:08

I was in Tesco when DD was about 6 hours old, and Dominos after that!

GettingMySpringOn · 10/04/2025 17:19

We did with 3rd dc. Went to dh works on way home from hospital its was literally on route as he had to give them the keys back , labour was quick so didn't have time prior. They asked if we wanted breakfast they ordered food in for us.
We went home unpacked. It was a beautiful day so we went to a pub garden for carvery.
Was nice to sit and chill watch the world go by . Baby was fine in pram and still cared for.

But to add I'm not the type to just sit indoors. It would drive me insane would have tipped mh over the edge tbh.

My 1st I remember going to my parents after going home and felt trapped indoors after an hour. So we took a half hour stoll to see them.

2nd had 1am. Home 7am. Doing school run 8.15am then went to breakfast.

housethatbuiltme · 10/04/2025 17:20

newmumtobe1989 · 10/04/2025 15:40

In general babies need quiet environments, soft voice, time and space to bond with mum. If the pub is crowded, people shouting, loud music and baby is passed around for people to see that can overwhelm them and make them restless. Also if there lots of people, the risk of catching something is higher and babies do not have the immune system to fight anything nor allowed Calpol until they are 2 months old to fight fever. Unless it’s a quiet place with not too many people there, it might be okay. I appreciate everyone’s opinion is different so it is up to carers to decide 😊xx

Have you had a baby?

Hospitals the number 1 place for catching something (the worst of anything with antibiotic resistance), Florescent lights on day and night, crowded wards, noisy machines, crying babies, passed around from nurse to nurse and prodded Dr by Dr and people waking you all hours of the day and night... yep that the place recommended for the most vulnerable of all babies.

How on earth could a fully healthy one possibly handle a quite meal in a pub.

GettingMySpringOn · 10/04/2025 17:25

To add this also has had no effect on any of my dcs. In fact they rarely get ill so their immune system clearly didn't take a battering.
They're all sociable and outgoing.
They were also all passed round , kissed by relatives .
No one smoked or drank alcohol anyway.

doreeen · 10/04/2025 17:39

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/04/2025 16:40

Similar when it isn't your first baby either. No one has a calm and quiet house when they have a toddler at home. 😂

Exactly, the whole ‘babies need to be in a quiet serene environment with uninterrupted 1-to-1 bonding time with mum’ is very much PFB territory. Not possible when you have a couple of toddlers to parent as well, life just has to go on.

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/04/2025 18:04

I went to a coffee shop the day after I’d given birth. We did a short walk, baby was in a carrier then we had coffee and cake. Can’t see that a pub is any different unless the parents were getting smashed.

eta I seem to recall our baby spent the whole time asleep. We could have been anywhere in the world and he wouldn’t have cared one bit.

Welshmonster · 10/04/2025 18:14

She will be tired tomorrow as one day old baby will be up a lot in the night.

I would just stay quiet to family members.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 10/04/2025 18:55

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:34

Yes we all know that is what YOU want to do!!!! It’s obvious the parents have no problem recognising what they want to do but surely the needs of the BABY should come first no? Jesus Christ.

My newborn was in no way harmed in the pram in the outdoor cafe as I imbibed a much-wanted cappuccino and croissant, nor in the pram as we passed through gasp public house on our way out to the gasp garden.

I didn’t know that fresh air and a happy mother was so bad for newborns.

Again, kindly, get a grip.

bigcushionlover · 10/04/2025 18:57

housethatbuiltme · 10/04/2025 17:20

Have you had a baby?

Hospitals the number 1 place for catching something (the worst of anything with antibiotic resistance), Florescent lights on day and night, crowded wards, noisy machines, crying babies, passed around from nurse to nurse and prodded Dr by Dr and people waking you all hours of the day and night... yep that the place recommended for the most vulnerable of all babies.

How on earth could a fully healthy one possibly handle a quite meal in a pub.

Agree. A lot of this thread is judgy, unsubstantiated pfb nonsense.

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 10/04/2025 19:02

An afternoon in a pub with a meal. No issues there. Id only be concerned if she was consuming multiple drinks to the point she couldn’t care for the baby. Even if breast feeding one drink is ok.

you’d be amazed how quickly you bounce back when you’re young. At 19 I went food shopping with dd1 the morning after she was born (traumatic birth and episiotomy). Same with dd2 at 22 on the way home from the hospital the day after a c section.

Financially it may not be great to have kids very young but physically it’s the best time.

SwingTheMonkey · 10/04/2025 19:08

Welshmonster · 10/04/2025 18:14

She will be tired tomorrow as one day old baby will be up a lot in the night.

I would just stay quiet to family members.

She might. But she won’t be any more tired tomorrow, having been out today. You can’t store up rest. No amount of resting today can make up for having little sleep tonight.

SwingTheMonkey · 10/04/2025 19:11

bigcushionlover · 10/04/2025 18:57

Agree. A lot of this thread is judgy, unsubstantiated pfb nonsense.

The idea that a baby should be brought home to a house which is quiet, dimly lit and everyone speaks in hushed tones (and doesn’t come near baby if they’ve got a cold) is fucking hilarious if you’ve got one or more toddlers/young children already. When I brought my 4th baby home, the 3 children under 6 who already lived there didn’t get that memo!

HelenWheels · 10/04/2025 19:22

bigcushionlover · 10/04/2025 18:57

Agree. A lot of this thread is judgy, unsubstantiated pfb nonsense.

but surely they are precious first born? why so derogatory, unless you feel judged
i presume as a 17 year old mother she is going to face a lot of judgement
how would you all feel if she was your daughter?