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Echolalia in toddler

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Ladybug1235 · 31/03/2025 13:33

My little girl just turned 26 months and she can do the following :

  1. Expressive language : Has over 200 words and speaks in 2/3 sometimes 4 word sentences including connectors , adjective and verbs like “ bunny sitting on the train “
  2. Good receptive language with two step instructions at all times and she listens and responds to other members of the family .
  3. She is Social to some extent but it takes a while to warm her up and then she interacts well with adults and her peers ( although she still wants me close by ) She engages with kids if it is 1/1 interaction like playing with ball or on the beach but if there are lots of kids she just looks at them / what they are doing .
  4. She eats and sleeps like a champ so far all 12 hours and all type of food apart from scrambled eggs 🍳
  5. She can answer questions like (?what/where /who’s , what is mommy/daddy doing ? What color is dolly ? Where does the hat go ? What do you want ?
  6. Asks questions like / what’s that . What happened and what’s the sound , why are you sad / scared etc
  7. She can easily transition from her house to a new one without problems and she is not repetitive in any way apart from when she goes on the swing at the park and doesn’t want to get off to try other things 😅.
  8. Tantrum wise she is fairly good at self soothing and her tantrums don’t last more than 5 minutes .

She still tends to repeat almost verbatim what we say “ the entire phrase and I know that immediate echolalia is a ref flag and someone suggested GLP

Like when she wakes up from nap : she started saying “ it is empty “ referring to a box in her room because I told her that it was empty a while back . I know it is not typical and I wish I knew how to help her

She still makes requests with single words at times but I was told not to be overly concerned about that as long as there is combination of words into phrases.

Ps no one seems to be concerned

OP posts:
TheGoogleMum · 01/04/2025 14:53

I think that age is too young to tell unless it is a more obvious autism presentation (someone i know has a DS who was unable to talk until he was 5 for example)

LongDarkTeatime · 01/04/2025 17:31

dairydebris · 01/04/2025 08:39

This is another example of a damaging post.

She isn't a caring mum, or at least not in a healthy way. She's obsessed with her daughter being autistic. She's constantly watching for it, pushing for it, taking her to Dr's for it, discussing it.

If posters aren't aware of the op's posting history then they can make kind posts like this one without realizing they are legitimizing a damaging obsession.

I know there's an argument for telling the OP not to worry and that her child is fine ( autistic or not ) but the OP is not listening to most posts and latching onto validating ones.

I've reported this thread, I hope others will too...

I have not seen other posts and do not intend to look. I have yet to find a situation personally or professionally where a person is better influenced by the stick than a carrot.
I understand that by seeming to condemn the OP you are hoping to change her view more quickly than a gentle approach. Good luck with that.
As for your judgement of ‘damaging’ I will give it the appropriate attention for a binary point of view.

OP whatever the situation is I hope you find compassionate support for both you and your family for whatever you need.

dairydebris · 01/04/2025 17:39

LongDarkTeatime · 01/04/2025 17:31

I have not seen other posts and do not intend to look. I have yet to find a situation personally or professionally where a person is better influenced by the stick than a carrot.
I understand that by seeming to condemn the OP you are hoping to change her view more quickly than a gentle approach. Good luck with that.
As for your judgement of ‘damaging’ I will give it the appropriate attention for a binary point of view.

OP whatever the situation is I hope you find compassionate support for both you and your family for whatever you need.

The gentle approach has been tried 100's of times over the last months with this poster.
She ignores it. She posts over and over about her poor daughter who sounds normal and lovely.
I'm sorry if my post offended you truly I am. But context is everything with this one. And there is a 2 year old girl behind all this who's being subjected to a damaging obsession that we really do not want to encourage.

Simplynotsimple · 01/04/2025 19:13

LongDarkTeatime · 01/04/2025 17:31

I have not seen other posts and do not intend to look. I have yet to find a situation personally or professionally where a person is better influenced by the stick than a carrot.
I understand that by seeming to condemn the OP you are hoping to change her view more quickly than a gentle approach. Good luck with that.
As for your judgement of ‘damaging’ I will give it the appropriate attention for a binary point of view.

OP whatever the situation is I hope you find compassionate support for both you and your family for whatever you need.

Hang around, you’ll soon notice a pattern of threads. Next one should be 27 months I believe? Then it will be a 28, 29, 30 month developmental thread. As I said, I’ve noticed this poster for at least the past 6 months, if not longer. I have four of these threads within easy read of my ‘threads I’m on’ recently all under different usernames but exact same posting style. Maybe you have more patience than everyone else, but the poster who quoted you is correct - there has been plenty of gentle replies until the repetition became obvious. This is now a damaging obsession with a young child at the centre of it.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 01/04/2025 19:27

It’s completely normal for children this age to be repeating whole phrases, it’s all part of learning.

I’ve recently spent some time working in a SEN school and have heard the kind of echolalia that is a sign of something awry, and it’s not what you describe. If she’s repeating phrases in ways that actually make sense then it’s honestly not concerning. If she starts announcing “box empty” to mean the bath is full that’s something to keep an eye on.

I’m not saying your child isn’t autistic, just that your description doesn’t indicate that. Try not to stress about it so much. You are describing very normal toddler language development. Interacting with children the same age is a very positive sign.

LongDarkTeatime · 01/04/2025 21:05

Simplynotsimple · 01/04/2025 19:13

Hang around, you’ll soon notice a pattern of threads. Next one should be 27 months I believe? Then it will be a 28, 29, 30 month developmental thread. As I said, I’ve noticed this poster for at least the past 6 months, if not longer. I have four of these threads within easy read of my ‘threads I’m on’ recently all under different usernames but exact same posting style. Maybe you have more patience than everyone else, but the poster who quoted you is correct - there has been plenty of gentle replies until the repetition became obvious. This is now a damaging obsession with a young child at the centre of it.

We all know behaviours serve a purpose.
It’s curious you’ve decided rather than explore purpose of the behaviour for the OP you go for the stick.
Enjoy your stick for whatever purpose it serves for you.

Simplynotsimple · 01/04/2025 21:10

LongDarkTeatime · 01/04/2025 21:05

We all know behaviours serve a purpose.
It’s curious you’ve decided rather than explore purpose of the behaviour for the OP you go for the stick.
Enjoy your stick for whatever purpose it serves for you.

Amazed how you are curious when the behaviour of the op has been explained to you over several posts now. I’d happily link many of her threads so you can see such concerning behaviour yourself but you have said you’d rather stay ignorant of the history.

When a countless number of posters over many threads (an untold number of us being parents to autistic children ourselves) have picked up that so far the OP’s child is developing within typical range yet her own behaviour is somewhat concerning, it’s not really for a latecomer such as yourself to start waving their own stick around at said posters…

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 01/04/2025 22:19

Simplynotsimple · 01/04/2025 21:10

Amazed how you are curious when the behaviour of the op has been explained to you over several posts now. I’d happily link many of her threads so you can see such concerning behaviour yourself but you have said you’d rather stay ignorant of the history.

When a countless number of posters over many threads (an untold number of us being parents to autistic children ourselves) have picked up that so far the OP’s child is developing within typical range yet her own behaviour is somewhat concerning, it’s not really for a latecomer such as yourself to start waving their own stick around at said posters…

Presumably you have raised the issue with MN? It does sound worrying

Simplynotsimple · 01/04/2025 22:23

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 01/04/2025 22:19

Presumably you have raised the issue with MN? It does sound worrying

It’s difficult to report when the op changes usernames every time they start these threads, and I honestly try and avoid it if possible. I really hope the op lets the message sink in this time, as others have started reporting her threads. If she doesn’t actually recognise her own issues and only answers to posters telling her what a caring mum she is (and I’m not saying she isn’t, it’s just this particular issue isn’t healthy for anyone), she will just continue posting looking for validation.

MissHollysDolly · 02/04/2025 06:23

You have either anxiety or are developing munchausens by proxy.
yoor Childs behaviour sounds normal. For any diagnosis of adhd / autism you’d have to begin by showing that they symptoms are causing detriment. This doesn’t sound like th case here

jellyfishperiwinkle · 02/04/2025 06:33

DD1 was similar at this age and would also absorb phrases from books we read to her and repeat them at nursery and home, and I would only twig when we read that book again. I remember nursery teachers telling me she said "Jackie entered with a flourish!" and when we got home and read Winnie the Pooh at bedtime "Owl entered with a flourish!" - ah.

She is just very bright and did well at a superselective grammar school and is now at university.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 02/04/2025 07:36

MissHollysDolly · 02/04/2025 06:23

You have either anxiety or are developing munchausens by proxy.
yoor Childs behaviour sounds normal. For any diagnosis of adhd / autism you’d have to begin by showing that they symptoms are causing detriment. This doesn’t sound like th case here

Munchausen by proxy involves making up symptoms or even the doing something to cause them, it doesn’t sound like the OP is doing that. The stuff she is listing is all normal toddler behaviour, she’s just interpreting it as something wrong, which definitely sounds like anxiety, though it could just be attention seeking.

dairydebris · 02/04/2025 09:42

I've reported as I'm really worried about the child behind this, and the posts are feeding the obsession. Mumsnet I guess don't see the problem 😕... really concerning tbh

Zeitumschaltung · 02/04/2025 10:01

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 02/04/2025 07:36

Munchausen by proxy involves making up symptoms or even the doing something to cause them, it doesn’t sound like the OP is doing that. The stuff she is listing is all normal toddler behaviour, she’s just interpreting it as something wrong, which definitely sounds like anxiety, though it could just be attention seeking.

Looking at the other posts, OP reminds me much more of a friend who had a psychotic break focused on a false belief that her children had been exposed to asbestos. I hope there’s another parent in the picture.

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