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To be surprised people think the clocks are going back?

178 replies

girlfriend44 · 28/03/2025 19:29

Seen quite a few saying clocks are going back this weekend.😂

Back in Winter. Forward in Spring.

It's been happening for years.😏

OP posts:
Overhaul54 · 29/03/2025 05:24

Its quite simple, the clocks always go forward on the last Sunday in March and back on the last Sunday in October. There is nothing tricky or ambiguous about that.

I think it gets confusing because the dates for Mother’s Day and Easter do move. It’s easy to lose track of what’s happening when as it’s different every year.

Jabberwok · 29/03/2025 07:23

ErrolTheDragon · 28/03/2025 23:49

As has been pointed out, it’s right in the middle of daylight hours - literally mid day.
I think before electric lights people would have tended to get up and go to bed earlier, more in line with natural daylight. Many farmers still do, don’t they? Why most of us sleep through sunny mornings only to stay awake in the dark mystifies me - it annoys me that I do it, I keep meaning to try to shift my days to be more symmetrical and not waste the mornings yet here I am still awake at nearly midnight. bonkers.😂

On a slightly different note to that it always makes me smile that some people get up really late at the weekend/when off work. You get up early every day for someone else, why not get up for yourself

Zanatdy · 29/03/2025 07:25

cardibach · 28/03/2025 21:59

It’s not. I think springing back makes much more sense - like if something surprises you. I know it’s forward this time but that stupid saying makes it harder to remember.

Spring forward, ie with a spring in your step as the sunnier days are coming. Also people know they are getting more daylight, so makes no sense they’d be going back.

LlynTegid · 29/03/2025 08:12

I had this with a supplier, who realised later that day they had got it wrong.

This arcane practice should end in any case. The only conversation should be about whether it is BST all year round, or GMT all year round. I prefer BST as I think you can make more use of daylight in the afternoon, and since much heavy industry closed in the UK, fewer people start work early in the morning.

SwanOfThoseThings · 29/03/2025 08:25

samarrange · 28/03/2025 23:27

We have a taxi ordered for 6:30 am on Sunday morning. I hope it comes at the "new" 6:30am and not an hour later!

Our grandson was born two hours before the clocks went back last October. If he had appeared a bit later, they would presumably have had to write down his time of birth as "1:35am, the first" (or the second), because there were two 1:35am's on that day. On the other hand, nobody will be born at 1:35 am this coming Saturday night/Sunday morning...

Edited

It's normally written as '01:35 BST' or '01:35 GMT' if something official needs to be recorded in one of the 'duplicate hours' in October, so I presume that would be how a birth would be recorded.

Nice for people to get an extra hour's worth of birthday every few years when it falls on Sunday if they are born the week the clocks go back.

mydogfarts · 29/03/2025 08:26

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 28/03/2025 19:55

Gmt was worked out in the latter part of the 17th century. It wasn't until the mid 19th century and train timetables that the country settled on using gmt across the whole country. The timing of gmt has nothing to with scottish school children but yes if we went permanently to bst they would suffer

But their schools could just change the start time?

SwanOfThoseThings · 29/03/2025 08:29

OonaStubbs · 29/03/2025 03:28

I think changing the time is difference, and I don't with the different time zones around the world. Everyone should use GMT.

Wow, that would be fun for people in Australia 😆

soupyspoon · 29/03/2025 08:32

I might say back but I mean forward

And I might say forward but I mean back

I often get things opposite way round

I know that they're changing thats all

SpringIsSpringing25 · 29/03/2025 08:33

applegrumbling · 28/03/2025 19:35

Spring forward, fall back!

Yeah it's not complicated is it?🤣

SpringIsSpringing25 · 29/03/2025 08:35

UndermyShoeJoe · 28/03/2025 19:30

I mean most people just wish they wouldn’t bloody change.

''Most people'

😵‍💫😵‍💫

You can't speak for most people to speak for yourself,

OverdueBooks · 29/03/2025 08:43

It's such a pointless exercise that causes so much hassle. It messes with my body clock for ages and no perimenopausal woman needs that. Good luck to the parents of small children trying to persuade them to go to sleep an hour earlier.

BST was introduced in WW1 as a fuel-saving move for the factories, etc. WW1 finished in 1918 so I think we're good now.

We don't need BST in Scotland as there are so many hours of daylight in summer as it is and some nights it doesn't even get properly dark at all (and I'm not even that far North).

SpringIsSpringing25 · 29/03/2025 08:46

soundsys · 28/03/2025 21:07

My husband tells me this every time, but as you can also fall forward and spring back it helps me not at all 😂

Spring forward... just think of the Easter bunny bounding forward with your goodies!!

well, if you're old enough pogo sticks and hopper balls, we sprang forward on all of them!!

No one springs backwards!!

RausageSoul · 29/03/2025 08:52

March forward. Fall back

ThatAgileCoralBird · 29/03/2025 08:52

I agree @OverdueBooks

more heart attacks, strokes and car accidents have been recorded with the clocks going forward.

yes Great Britain introduced it after Bismark introduced it in Germany during WWI. He wanted that extra hour of war wongering production in his factories.

seeing we are largely a serviced based economy now, do we really need all those employees slugging their guts out working that extra hour so that the more well off can play their golf, tennis, drink and eat out that little bit longer.

I live in Scotland. Yes my days go on forever during summer and there is a period where it feels like it never gets dark
.
we should stick with GMT

Beebop1784 · 29/03/2025 09:02

Oh my goodness, you are so smart 🤩

HellDorado · 29/03/2025 09:45

Spring back, fall forward is just as viable as a mnemonic.

But surely once you’ve heard “Spring forward, fall back” you know? You just have to remember it, not prove the validity of the mnemonic in court.

cardibach · 29/03/2025 11:31

PyongyangKipperbang · 29/03/2025 01:32

Dont get me started in how mad it makes me that this just happens to be done at the same time as Mothers Day. I know MD came first, but you can bet your sweet ass that if Fathers Day had been a thing and it happened in March then the clock change wouldnt happen until sodding April!

It isn’t the same as Mothers Day every year though. It only is this year because Easter is so late. Mother’s Day is the fourth Sunday of lent, hour change is last Sunday in March. Those are not usually the same day.

cardibach · 29/03/2025 11:32

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 29/03/2025 00:29

Spring back, fall forward is just as viable as a mnemonic.

Not really. Cats, lions etc "spring forward" to catch prey. "Spring back" doesn't sound right.

"Fall back" is an army command.

I’m not a cat or a lion. I mostly spring back when I drop knives etc or someone startles me. Neither am I a soldier.

cardibach · 29/03/2025 11:34

Zanatdy · 29/03/2025 07:25

Spring forward, ie with a spring in your step as the sunnier days are coming. Also people know they are getting more daylight, so makes no sense they’d be going back.

I know which happens when - what I’m saying is the ‘helpful’ saying is anything but.

cardibach · 29/03/2025 11:36

Overhaul54 · 29/03/2025 05:24

Its quite simple, the clocks always go forward on the last Sunday in March and back on the last Sunday in October. There is nothing tricky or ambiguous about that.

I think it gets confusing because the dates for Mother’s Day and Easter do move. It’s easy to lose track of what’s happening when as it’s different every year.

The dates for Mothers’ Day and Easter aren’t connected to the hour change.

cardibach · 29/03/2025 11:37

Jabberwok · 29/03/2025 07:23

On a slightly different note to that it always makes me smile that some people get up really late at the weekend/when off work. You get up early every day for someone else, why not get up for yourself

Because I don’t like getting up early. I stay in bed for myself because I like a lie in.

HellDorado · 29/03/2025 12:21

Jabberwok · 29/03/2025 07:23

On a slightly different note to that it always makes me smile that some people get up really late at the weekend/when off work. You get up early every day for someone else, why not get up for yourself

Eh? You don’t “get up for someone else” as a favour to them - you do it because you have to go to work and get paid! What does “get up for yourself” even mean? If people want to get up early, they can - surely anyone who doesn’t simply doesn’t want to!

Overhaul54 · 29/03/2025 16:32

cardibach · 29/03/2025 11:36

The dates for Mothers’ Day and Easter aren’t connected to the hour change.

I know.
I was explaining the reason why it may tricky and ambiguous to some.🙄
Other dates in March do change every year so the connection to the last weekend in March isn’t as obvious.

There’d lots of birthdays in March ( set date moveable day ) whereas Mothers Day is always a Sunday but moveable date and this year Pancake Day/Shrove Tuesday appeared in March not February,
So yes people get muddled.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/03/2025 17:35

I’m planning on solving the ‘hour less sleep’ problem by going to bed an hour earlier. Maybe if everyone changed their clocks on a Saturday evening rather than it happening in the small hours people would be happier on the Sunday? Added bonus is you could miss some truly crap TVGrin

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 29/03/2025 17:40

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 28/03/2025 20:36

We don't have fall in the UK.
We have Autumn!

Well yes, but Spring forward Autumn back doesn't really work as a phrase, does it?! And obviously you know what fall means, so I don't see the problem.