Seriously thinking about leaving the UK - AIBU?

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I love the UK in many ways but it has been going downhill for at least 20 years and it feels as if the speed of the decline is accelerating. I no longer see a happy, or particularly safe, future here. For the first time in my life, I am very seriously thinking about leaving the UK and that feeling gets stronger day by day. When I mention this to friends, many are feeling the same way. YANBU - you are right to think seriously about leaving the UK. YABU - the UK is a still a great country to live in and you are being unreasonable to want to leave.

What if the country they've chosen doesn't want immigrants with a disabilty?

But fucking ‘’illegal immigrants’’ are not getting 1.3m in benefits because the clue is in the name, they are illegal. The government does not know they are here, so they are not entitled to benefits. If anyone is coming here as economic migrants then they are in hiding and working for people traffickers, therefore they are not, and never have, or will, receive benefits or a bloody house. Any money they receive is the proceeds of illegal labour.

The ones in hotels are being put there while their claims for asylum are processed. That’s it. You’re talking utter shit because it suits you.

EDIT: I never said they can work while being processed, and they don’t!

dont really get the big deal about moving - people do it everyday.

ive lived in 6 different countries and done a lot of travel and still don’t know where il settle - if we ever do!

you’re massively overthinking it

Canada has all the same issues as the UK, some of them are worse.

30,000 illegal immigrants have arrived in small boats in the last 6 months - the Govenrments of today and utterly useless. If i were much younger I would move away from this overcrowded island.

It’s not much better there!

That doesn’t equate to 1.3m in benefits and a house. It includes the bare minimum in food and accommodation allowance. ‘’Housing’’ means a roof over their heads, doesn’t mean a lovely house and all the best food. Charities provide things for refugees that have been granted asylum to enable them to work and earn and integrate into society, that doesn’t equate to a champagne lifestyle, and also doesn’t make them ‘’illegal immigrants’’. Your reasoning ability is sorely lacking.

I think there is a tendency to think "But every time I go abroad it's sunny and the place is full of happy people on holiday". Not explicitly, of course, but most people haven't been to Alicante in January (it's wet and they don't have central heating), or Sydney during a 45° heatwave, or Thailand during an uprising. Nor have they seen the local news and noticed that the Prime Minister is under suspicion of massive corruption, or there's a budget deficit twice the UK's and the currency is about to be devalued 25%, or you have to wait 18 months for a hip replacement, or the police have a reputation for picking on people who look like they might be members of a historically marginalised group.

Having lived outside the UK for a few decades, DP and I can confirm that boring commutes, traffic jams, having your car broken into, strikes, encountering drunk people or beggars in town, income tax, and stupid stupid stupid bang-your-head-against-a-wall bureaucracy are everywhere. And also, unless you move to a former colony, it is hard to make friendships - proper human connection friendships, the kind where you sometimes disagree with people and you stay friends but the kind you need to say that you have your "life" in a place - without really good skills in the local language, the kind you get after 5 years or more of daily practice.

Completely different. For many countries (from personal experience) you have to have a job to go to, proof of savings, prove you can speak the language, take a medical, pay for health insurance etc - all fine in my opinion. As opposed to few requirements for those coming here legally, and no requirements at all for illegal immigrants, who are immediately supported at taxpayers expense. So, most of those leaving the UK are educated skilled and solvent, but being replaced mostly by those who force their way in via channel crossings, knowing the system is so crappy they will almost certainly not be removed. This is one of the reasons it's all going to shit.

For many countries, moving there with a significant disability is impossible Hence our five-year mission to regain EU passports, which means our son is not trapped.

The idea that someone would move to Dubai because things are going downhill in the UK is nuts.

Going to make bagloads of money or live a luxury lifestyle makes sense but Dubai is not a more humane nation.

I should have done this and didn't. I'm screwed now. I can't move to the continent as I don't earn enough.

Lived in Thailand for many many years. The political situation doesn’t interfere with day to day life. Aside from pollution, it’s a much much better quality of life than U.K.

Yep, as predicted, you’ve been brainwashed by GB news hyperbolic propaganda, and you’re deflecting by calling me uneducated and possibly mentally ill 🤣 I wonder what your educational background is like? 🤔

Likewise :(

Probably because they get more help then the people that actually live here do. They get clothing, free dental care, childcare.

I just googled all your headlines and most were GB news, followed by the Express, Daily Mail and Telegraph. Right wing mouthpieces. And, considering you don’t know the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant, nor seem capable of recognising unbiased sources, I’d get a refund from Oxford 🤣

But I’m not incorrect, I told you the difference between an asylum seeker and illegal immigrant, which you weren’t aware of, and I told you that they get basic accommodation and housing allowances and that any that are found to be illegally applying for asylum are deported, which are all correct. Please point me in the direction of your sources which say that asylum seekers get 1.3m per family?