To go abroad when working from home?

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If I went to Italy or France or Spain or wherever... and logged in and did my work - would this be wrong?
I work 8-2 Mon - Thurs normally
Never have to go into office, except for 4 meetings a year.

And I would work as usual, and thought I could then spend the afternoons exploring and taking it all in.

There's nothing wrong with my idea, is there??

You’re being incredibly naive to think there are no potential issues here!

We no longer have any rights to work in Europe without a work permit thanks to Brexit. Whether anyone would be that bothered over there is another issue but technically it is illegal.

You need to check with your employer. Some allow, some don't, and some need a few weeks to get it set up. Usually, though, it has to be a private network - not one shared in an apartment block (for example)

We caught somebody logging in from florida, and we knew theyd gone on holiday and try to avoid using their annual leave for it.

A friend of mine has a girlfriend who lives in belgium, and he frequently stays during the week with her. His employer has warned him that he is never to work from belgium or log into his laptop and work from there because there are significant tax implications if he does it. He hasn't been caught yet, but he still does it.

On his own head be if he gets caught and on yours too.

Our system blocks access if you try and use Wifi or broadband in a different country. To work abroad we need to fill in an form and get permission so IT can make arrangments. I had to do this recently for a legitimate work trip (international conference).

At my work your allowed to as long as your manager and cyber agree. I wouldn't personally as I know I would do a half arse job but some people do.

Clue is in the word HOME.

To live or for a holiday?
I live in Spain and a friend of mine has a digital Nomad visa to allow him to work for a UK company - he goes back every 6-8 weeks for meetings .
There are tax implications though.

We can work remotely for up to 3 weeks a year and need to complete a form beforehand and get approval from project leads. This is driven by tax implications plus data security in some territories.

“Informal bits and bobs when you are on holiday but still need to do a bit of work” don’t count towards that total (in my view anyway).

I am a joint citizen of another European country so don’t need to worry about residency/immigration when working from the EU. But you would need to think about those rules too.

As others have said, you need your employers permission.

It was banned at our work although I think someone was allowed once when their relative was dying, but the employer later regretted agreeing to that as then everyone was asking why they couldn't, so they banned it outright after that

One of my colleagues moved abroad on a long-term basis, with the understanding she'd visit the office once every 6 weeks approximately. But she had to formally apply for this and a lot of checks had to be done regarding data sharing agreements, data storage etc.

My employer (public sector) allows this. There are conditions about the security of the wifi used to access confidential information and certain countries are ruled out but Europe is fine.

Depends on your job, are you customer service for Amazon or analyst for MI5?? And which country you’re going to. If you can have secure/fast internet and work privately.
Just ask them, of course commoners can find out

Agree with the majority. Ask your employer.

My relative visits us from abroad and the arrangement he has is that he has to take the whole time as annual leave. If he keeps on top of his emails each day and responds to questions etc., in a reasonable timeframe, then he can take one or two flexi days another time.

I think what you are trying to do OP is avoid telling them and not use your annual leave.

And, edited to say, not sure if you can technically work on a tourist visa in some countries - although that might not apply to EU.

Check if you will be able to log in - I had to spend some time with IT to figure it out (and my company knew).

I expect she said “Are you saying she is logging in from a Caribbean island?” and IT said “Yes, Jamaica” and she said “Absolutely not, she went of her own accord.”

Boom tish

Depends on the employer. I have a colleague with family in Italy and now his parents are elderly and in ill health, he is going back for a couple of weeks at a time, every few months and working remotely from there. Employers are fine with it as it’s very clear the job is still being done.

Depends on your job and possible data breaches etc. Only allowed for certain countries and jobs for us with prior approval.

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Definitely depends on what you do as some jobs have jurisdictional issues around the type of work they do and where that work is done. But if there are none of those issues, then I don't see why anyone would know. Just be sure to blur your background on Teams!

We’re allowed to do this for four weeks a year if agreed in advance. We can’t just take off and not mention it.

This isn't the same
I'm just thinking about it maybe 3-4 times a year, away for a few days.

As others have said, it depends on your company policies. They may have issues with taking equipment abroad. We allow it but you have to fill out a form, contact IT and it’s all done on a case by case basis. We wouldn’t be happy with someone just doing it without permission!

Any reason why you are asking on here and not your actual employer?

id be able to do what you want to do. I can do small number of days per year wfabroad. However, I have to let my line manager know in advance - I can't just prance off into the sun with my laptop and not tell anyone.