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Panic stress and overwhelmed

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Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 19:18

Hi

Just wondering of anyone has any techniques or tips they can share. Im a mum of 3, work nearly full time and just feel super stressed. I suffer from panic attacks sometimes worse days than others. Some day I am completely in control but I have a panic disorder which I have done for the last 10 years. I've had cbt every supplement going. I'm going through a adhd diagnosis at the moment which could help enlighten why i get super overwhelmed easy and so restless. It's so ridiculous but I am going out for a big family dinner Sunday and I' can't stop thinking I will have a panic attack. They are so annoying. I try not to be scared of them but they are terrifying and it's hard to ground myself when I do. I just wondered if people have this and what they do? Xx

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Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 27/03/2025 19:22

Have you tried medication?

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 19:39

I have propranolol which helps but it makes me so tired !

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Namechangetry · 27/03/2025 19:41

When you're in panic tell yourself over and over something like 'this will pass' or 'I am safe', something short and snappy that relates to the panic (mine's always 'this will end' because when I panic I forget that it'll end and wind myself up more).If you're worried you won't remember ask someone who'll be with you to say it to you then you take over. The more you do it the better it works. It helps get your fight/flight response to dial it down and the logical bit of your brain back in the driving seat.

But going forward, consider antidepressants, sertraline's helped me when I've struggled.

2024onwardsandup · 27/03/2025 19:42

Don’t go to the dinner - your family is a trigger - your body is telling you something

noctilucentcloud · 27/03/2025 19:44

I've had issues with agoraphobia and panic before. It is horrible so I sympathise massively. The thing that jumped out at me is the 'what happens if I have a panic attack'. I'd deal with this a few ways. First if I think about, if I did have a panic attack, what would make it easier for me to deal with eg having a bottle of cold water, having one of those recordings of people talking you through a panic attack to help you get through it, having some favourite music you can go and listen too etc. Secondly I'd think about is there anything I can do to make myself feel more relaxed about going to the dinner eg sitting next to a particular person, sitting near a window or door, only arriving just before dinner starts, sending a message to the host so you know you can have time out in a quiet bedroom if you need it (or that you can go outside or sit in someones car if it's at a restuarant), anything that you think would help ease the anxiety. Thirdly, I'd counteract the 'what if I have a panic attack' thoughts with 'what if I have a lovely time'.

Namechangetry · 27/03/2025 19:45

2024onwardsandup · 27/03/2025 19:42

Don’t go to the dinner - your family is a trigger - your body is telling you something

I don't agree - avoidance just strengthens the panic response. You have to feel the panic and feel yourself feeling it and then it ebbing away, to retrain your overeager fight/flight response. If you avoid and run away from stuff you're fearful of, it just teaches your fight/flight that it's doing a good job and to carry on panicking over normal life events like a meal out. You have to experience yourself managing to be able to manage.

noctilucentcloud · 27/03/2025 19:54

2024onwardsandup · 27/03/2025 19:42

Don’t go to the dinner - your family is a trigger - your body is telling you something

I also don't agree. With panic or anxiety you can desperately want to go to something but the anxiety and panic can kick in and start the 'what if...' It's so easy to say I'll stay in where it's 'safe' so I don't have a panic attack even though you know it's the anxiety stopping you from an activity you enjoy. It takes a huge amount of guts to live with an anxiety / panic disorder as you're having to constantly fight it.

If the OP didn't want to go because of a difficult relationship or abuse from family members, and had panic attacks because of that when she saw them, that'd be a very different story.

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 21:26

No no it's my dad's birthday nothing serious. It's just meant to be a lovely dinner! But my body feels like I'm prepping for a bear fight

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Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 21:28

Thank you everyone
I think it's more the anticipation! My kids will be there so they will be a distraction. I just wish I was a relaxed person. I have considered sertraline I'm just scared of the side effects!!!!

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Namechangetry · 27/03/2025 21:29

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 21:26

No no it's my dad's birthday nothing serious. It's just meant to be a lovely dinner! But my body feels like I'm prepping for a bear fight

Your body IS prepping for a bear fight! The physiological response is exactly that. But it's got trigger happy, you don't need it to do that and you have to train it to stand down. It's hard I know, I've been there/ still go there.

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 21:30

It's so annoying !

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Madre123 · 27/03/2025 21:34

Avoid the dinner...excuse yourself, I am also autistic....I don't people please anymore...do what's best for you....think of yourself...explain to the family. If they don't understand....you tried x

JLou08 · 27/03/2025 21:35

Have you tried fidgets whilst anxious before getting to a panic attack? Or going for a walk? That can help me with the restless energy. Pop its or squishy balls work well for me but there are a few different things around to try.

Gizmosgremlins · 27/03/2025 21:47

Hey OP, I can totally relate to this. Anxiety is such a shit thing to deal with but in its own misjudged way it's trying to help you.

And being anxious about being anxious is just as real a perceived threat as any other fear. If you don't feel able to talk to your family about it then could you pre-plan some options so that if you do feel panicky you can take some time out...pretend you need to take a call, or feel a bit icky and need fresh air, or need to go and top up your parking meter. Sometimes just knowing your 'escape route is enough to take the pressure off.

Another thing that helps me is having a wee instagram video or something to watch that helps me rationalise how I'm feeling. Anxiety Josh is a good account to follow.

Hope you can go and have a lovely lunch 😊

Gizmosgremlins · 27/03/2025 21:50

I think if your anxiety is driven by anxiety and not by real problems with your family then avoiding it isn't a good idea...it just cements the believe that there really is something to fear and avoid...whereas exposing yourself to it and surviving, even if it's uncomfortable, takes you one step closer to reducing the fear.

DeepRoseFish · 27/03/2025 22:10

The only thing that worked for me was Lorazepam. Then making some life changes which meant I was less stressed and didn’t need it anymore. By life changes I mean divorce.

DeepRoseFish · 27/03/2025 22:11

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 21:28

Thank you everyone
I think it's more the anticipation! My kids will be there so they will be a distraction. I just wish I was a relaxed person. I have considered sertraline I'm just scared of the side effects!!!!

Lorazepam is better as you only take it when you need it.

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 22:27

My doctor.wont give me them! I do have a couple of 2mg diazepam but I'm scared to take them out and about! Would they take the edge of ?

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Namechangetry · 27/03/2025 23:02

Panickyperson1 · 27/03/2025 22:27

My doctor.wont give me them! I do have a couple of 2mg diazepam but I'm scared to take them out and about! Would they take the edge of ?

They probably would but really consider the sertraline. When I was in quite a bad way with panic attacks it was sertraline which gave me the space to get my strategies working. I found the first 5 days or so I felt quite jittery and weird but after that they settled and I had no side effects except being quite hungry.

ooooohnoooooo · 29/03/2025 10:06

Good morning @Panickyperson1

Can I just start by gently reminding you that you are a woman, not a person with superpowers. You have a very heavy load to carry:Kids, undoubtedly much /a majority of the mental load, a full-on job, a household, food to organise and cook and clean up afterwards. Beds to make, washing to do, shopping to do, school stuff to organise, relationships and a sex life to maintain, and all the while your body is in constant flux with hormones. It's a lot.

We all look at 'everyone else' and see them coping with the same and can feel a failure when we don't match up to our own unrealistic expectations of doing it all with no impact or consequence.

It's easy to see why you are feeling overwhelmed - and panic is your body's way of signalling to you that something needs to change. Listen to it. Having been through similar (my kids are adult now) I can really relate and hopefully share some wisdom to help.

Think about acupuncture. I was a cynic but it really helped to slow me down and bring my stress reaction down a few notches. Panic reactions take a LOT of energy and are exhausting.

Make sure you are eating well. If that means temporary use of food /recipe delivery boxes for example, do that.

Make sure that you and DH sit down and really work out how the household is working. Make sure there is an equitable, workable split between you all - kids included.

Use the 54321 anti-panic technique. It's simple and brilliant and you can train your DH friends and kids in it.
When a panic attack sets in

  • look for 5 things you can see around you, and name each in turn out loud
  • then look for 4 things you can touch, and name each in turn,
  • then look for 3 things you can hear, and name each
  • then look for 2 things you can smell and name each
Then take 1 big slow breath in.

The process of doing this refocuses your mind on the here and now and calms everything down. It really works - even in acute attacks (I used to sit behind my DD holding her tight with my legs wrapped around her doing this when she had big anxiety meltdowns in her teens.)

The emergency stop technique is also useful if you are out and about on your own, she panic starts to rise , note the feeling, say to yourself 'mmm I can see that panic seems to be setting in '. Observe that as though you are standing outside of yourself. Take one big breath in. Hold. Let it out. Either out loud (if on your own or you done mi d looking a bit nuts 😂), say sharply 'STOP!' And put your hand out in front of yourself (like directing traffic). Breathe in and out again slowly 5 times. Then reassess how you are now feeling. If anxiety has subsided, note that and give yourself a pat on the back for taking control. If necessary, repeat.

Once you know these work it gives you confidence to go out because you know that you are able to fend off any and all pesky panics that may arise. You are back in control and that is very empowering.

Re the family dinner I'd be tempted to be really honest with my family ahead of time
"Family, just to let you know that I'm struggling at the moment, really exhausted and overwhelmed and feeling quite anxious even about lovely things like dad's bday dinner. So please bear with me if I'm a bit quiet or need to step out, it's nothing g you've done or said, just something I'm dealing with right now, I'm really looking forward to seeing. You all ".

Final thing is to let go of perfection. No one can do it all perfectly. Be good enough. It's all that's needed. Seriously it really is. Sod what anyone else thinks. It's the best gift you can give yourself

Good luck. X

Panickyperson1 · 29/03/2025 18:03

I cant thank you enough for your words!!!! Meant a lot to me! Xx

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ooooohnoooooo · 31/03/2025 08:09

Morning @Panickyperson1 How did the dinner go yesterday?

I was thinking about you and hoping that you managed to enjoy time with your family. It was such a lovely sunny day ☀️

Panickyperson1 · 31/03/2025 21:17

I went I saw I ate and I conquered. Had a couple of wobbles but just breathed amd excused myself to the toilet. But actually had a good time!!!! Ffs!!!! Xxxx

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ooooohnoooooo · 31/03/2025 21:21

Yay ! That's such good news. So chuffed that you triumphed !

🤓😍🥰

Namechangetry · 31/03/2025 21:31

Panickyperson1 · 31/03/2025 21:17

I went I saw I ate and I conquered. Had a couple of wobbles but just breathed amd excused myself to the toilet. But actually had a good time!!!! Ffs!!!! Xxxx

Yes you fucking did!!!

Well done, that's great news, I hope you're proud? Now you've always got that under your belt if you have a wobble another time, you did it then and you can do it again!