To think that the “quiet quitting” trend is just an excuse for people who are too lazy to do their jobs?

[DandyLeader]

If you’re “quitting” without quitting, maybe you should just leave instead of draining the life out of the workplace.

And if your colleagues have 'pick up the slack' for you working to rule then that's just another indicator that your employer is abusing your labour - hiring too few people to complete the work.

Well as long as you don't expect it either, then good for you. People always give inadequate service, it takes alot to be fired. I've worked with many people who could be replaced with a plant and it wouldn't matter 😄

Online sites suggests that ‘quiet quitting’ just means doing the job you’re paid for rather than always going above and beyond, almost always for no more payment/reward/benefit.

I actually just think ‘good on them’ - let’s face it, why do we all accept that we should work more and more hours, both at work and once we are back home, and not be financially compensated for it?

If employers are making people feel like they should be grateful for being allowed to work for them, as there's plenty more workers out there and AI lurking in the wings, it's not going to engender the forelock tugging gratitude of old.

I’ve known some very mediocre men in teaching who were basically doing this for years.

As well they should. More women should take their example too.

Lucky kids 😒 Doing your hours is one thing, being mediocre is entirely different

Yes I would. Those people look after the safety/wellbeing of the public. We should pay them to work sensible hours then clock off and get some proper rest. I've got a friend who works in emergency medicine who keeps having to be signed off because they are burned-out. It's not sustainable. Also most of the professions you mention pay overtime. It makes no sense at all to pay someone to work extra hours, at a higher rate, when they are tired, and should be replaced by someone fresh, being paid at the regular rate.

In the UK too many employers expect people to work beyond their contracted hours for free.

I stick to my hours and refuse to 'go above and beyond', whatever that means.
I also have no interest in getting involved in office politics or socialising with colleagues (so I avoid leaving do or office parties). I do my work, that's all.

Most employers see staff as a commodity to be exploited and have no issues with making people redundant in a second if it benefits them.

There is no loyalty from the employer side, so I don't see why I should behave any different.

I remember in the 90s when I first started work people giving me tips on what to do if you wanted a day off while working (hang out in the lab cold room) or hangover tips (skulk quietly in the toilets).

The 80s were even better for slackness from what I was told.
Everything is too sensible now.

I think I’m about to start quite quitting. I loved my job but the atmosphere has changed and now I’m being expected to do things way above my pay grade so something has to give. No more getting in 30 minutes early, paying for things out of my own money and leaving over an hour late. I work hard, it’s affecting my health now so time to look after me and stick to what I have time to do within my paid hours. I’m also going to start looking for a new job.

After my last barely minimum wage job jumped on me for giving anything less than 100% of my daily energy, leaving me too drained to eat, brush my teeth, my hair, put on moisturiser for my dry cracked skin, or be a mother, because they were so figure focused in a job with a never ending workload, I 100% support quiet quitting and doing just the bare minimum to keep your job secure.

I've had friends and colleagues die young and tragically only to be replaced sometimes within hours and in their short lives that ended way too soon they spent all of their time and energy giving to an organisation that would use everything they had to give to make billions in profit.

I am too disabled to work now, but even so I don't think I will ever be able to regain a work ethic after witnessing what I've witnessed.

Never give more of yourself than you can afford to give.

I learned a while ago that all I have to do is send a couple of emails really early in the morning when I wake up and then a couple before bed and people assume I’m online and working all the way through

Quiet quitting means just doing your job. I don't see any reason for people to do any more than that.

If employers want more they can pay more. You can't expect people to put their whole lives into work unless they are sharing the profits.

No, I don’t agree. I think it’s the expectation from employers that people will work above and beyond their contracted hours and duties as a norm.

I considered it but it was never going to work for me because I cared too much about my team and my patients so I did leave before I had a complete breakdown.

A.I. is coming for way too many of your jobs ! The shake out will favour those who are seen to put in. Quiet quitting is just another pass-agg way of operating.

QQ does NOT mean 'just doing your job' at all. Its self defining - not doing your job as far as you can get away with it, without actually having the moral compass o seek other employment that you're willing to do.

AI will come for jobs that can be done more cheaply with it. Whether or not the holders of those jobs currently do unpaid overtime will be irrelevant, when the time comes. The shake out will favour those whose jobs AI can't do cheaper, that's all.

'@daleylama

A.I. is coming for way too many of your jobs ! The shake out will favour those who are seen to put in. Quiet quitting is just another pass-agg way of operating.'

I doubt that.

You can do all the unpaid overtime you want and spend your days sucking up to management but ultimately if it is feasible and cheaper for your bosses to replace you with AI, you will still be gone and forgotten in a second.

I work in a small team (4 of us) doing identical jobs, we have a shared task list and work our way down it. We all earn the same and opportunity for promotion if very limited.
One of the team is lazy and does far less work than any of us others. For some reason the management won’t discuss it with them because ‘the work gets done’. By the rest of us.
The three of us that work have now started to ‘quietly quit’. We used to work late or through lunch to finish tasks, we’ve now stopped because of the lazy one. Working above and beyond has got us nowhere.

But I feel like doing just enough to not get sacked is meeting the requirements of your job.
We shouldn't all be going over and above all the time because mostly it makes no difference.
I enjoy my job but also want a work/life balance so won't do certain things.

I think it's fine, so long as you don't expect to be paid very much.

The are obviously exceptions where people with in-demand skills can work 9am-5pm contracting, but the average person, doing an average job, with average effort, is going to earn average or below average money.

If you can live on that, then fine, but I think you can't really complain about your wages.

Perhaps people in those situations need to consider quiet quitting to provide themselves the free time to upskill and earn better money?

Companies are hardly going to locate their businesses in the UK if we get a reputation for 'doing the bare minimum to avoid being sacked'. If companies relocate it will then impact government finances and result in cuts to benefits, DLA, PIP, etc. I suspect it will be the quiet quitters that will be the ones squealing when they lose their UC top-ups.

Be careful what you wish for...

But why should people sacrifice their whole lives in order to be paid a living wage?

'Just enough to not get sacked' suggests doing fuck all or doing it badly. Getting put on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP). Doing just enough during that period to avoid getting sacked and then, once they're off the PIP, going back to doing fuck all to start the whole cycle again.

It's pretty shit working with people like that.

Where did I say that anybody had to sacrifice their whole lives?

I'm just being realistic.

Why do you think you're entitled to a 'living wage' for doing the 'bare minimum to avoid being sacked'? That's not how am economy works.