To think that the “quiet quitting” trend is just an excuse for people who are too lazy to do their jobs?

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If you’re “quitting” without quitting, maybe you should just leave instead of draining the life out of the workplace.

We wouldn't have a choice. There aren't enough of them for us to be able to prevent it.

Though as others have pointed out, constantly trying to squeeze more and more out of these people for no/insufficient extra money is a big part of why we're in the current mess.

Exact same happened to me… I’d actually left then office at 2am the night before and was 15 mins late as I wanted to do the school run and actually see my child as in hand the day before…. But fine, if 8am means 8am for you then 5pm means 5pm for me.

In my current role we’re in annual review season - and we have been told not to put working above our hours down as it’s expected…

Honestly? Yes - all of these professions should be adequately paid & staffed to allow them to work their contracted hours & duties. Will there be occasions when extra is required? Of course, but they showed be adequately compensated for it & look at solutions to reduce those instances. I have friends in those professions & it’s mind boggling how much is being heaped on to so few considering the potential consequences.

I have been working at a level above myself for months in this role. Think Supervisor but i'm actually doing the Management role. I was doing such an amazing job that they promied me a promotion, training course and an uplift in salary, right after christmas too, excellent!!!

The manager above my line manager blocked it. No reason at all, he is just a dick (complaints to HR and well known to be up Seniors arse). I now work to rule, so no extra tasks outsiude of my JD, no "can you just do this managerial thing for me", nothing. And we now don't have a manager as she got sick of his BS and left.

So no. It's not lazy people. It's people being sick of gettiing shat on while managers and SLT go on and on about record profits and staff wellbeing.

I think there are a lot of people who give extra time and effort to their jobs.
When the extra effort stops being beneficial to the worker ie lack of appreciation, colleagues dumping their responsibilities, no recognition from seniors, no pay rise or promotion, then it's time to step back and do the bare minimum.

I’m working on this now we have both retired - in the last few months he’s learned how to use the washing machine the cooker the vacuum the dishwasher and the lawnmower - I can recommend it!

@Tbrh Wow your customers and colleagues must love you 🤨

Who cares? Probably not PP as long as they get paid. Thats all a lot of people go to work for, including me.

I'm quietly fining my boss. He keeps a stash of disposable vapes in the kitchen at work and every time he swears at us or belittles us in front of customers or makes us work through lunch, I calculate the lost earnings or monetary value
and bin the appropriate amount of vapes.

Despite moaning constantly about how many he seems to be getting through, he has not yet realised.

As the expression goes, if you pretend to pay me I will pretend to work.

They probably don't want a written record that people are working for free.

Tell me you’ve never worked in a toxic workplace without telling me you’ve never worked in a toxic workplace

Orrr…if it’s a team you’re responsible for that’s all quiet quitting, maybe it’s not them, maybe it’s your leadership style?

It used to be called working to rule.

When I first joined my industry 20 years back, the understanding was that no one gets overtime, but the reward for putting in long hours and doing a good job was a decent performance related bonus, and promotion. Since then, there’s been a sustained program of offshoring which means promotions are much less frequent and the bonuses are much lower. Rises in basic pay have also not kept up with inflation. It is noticeable how the office empties out much earlier these days.

But there just is not the money in public sector organisations, since the Conservative Government slashed budgets and removed support for LA’s.

My LA role with schools has a team reduced by 100 staff. We have roles, Through various restructures and redundancies, job descriptions have been changed to include what was the role of ( previously) three or four staff.

The Conservative government were also awful for removing duties from LA ‘s, until it was all going wrong ( school attendance for instance) then producing documents to demand improvement including statutory responsibility on the LA. This came without any additional funding so has to be carried out by existing staff, becoming an additional aspect of our job description.

I agree with you. I think some people often forget they are getting paid to work, not just to turn up and find as many ways as possible to skive.

I did quit in the end. When I realised they were relying on my free labour I did less and less until I eventually found a better job.

Yes, I would not wish anyone in one of those jobs to be working unpaid hours, and risking burnout.

Depends what you mean by quiet quitting - I've always seen it used to describe people who do the hours and work that they are paid for and no more. This is totally reasonable - get in and be ready to work at start time then switch off at finish time. This working 'above and beyond' for a pittance is not worth it.

I job shared with a teacher who was obviously quiet quitting and it was frankly depressing.

Not when it means you do the bare minimum and give people inadequate service or your colleagues have to pick up the slack. Selfish attitude. This is in response to "just doing enough so I don't get fired".

I have always done this. I do a very good job but I arrive well on time ( not the hour before school starts)and I leave on the dot. I have never done work dinners or end of term parties - for me that is overtime. I have seen so many people burn out, get ill, prioritize work to the detriment of their families only to be replaced and erased straight away.

This is an excellent post.

Companies exploit workers as if they are objects, and workers no longer dedicate their lives to companies.
I never understood people who make it their lives purpose to happily slave away from 9-6 for enough money to live on but never enough money to exit the slave market. We should at least not make it frowned upon to not want to give it our all to our slave masters.

@Tbrh Well if they were giving inadequate service then surely they would be fired? So the poster must be giving adequate service. Paid to provide the service - provide the service and go home. There is no 'bare minimum' as a negative. Either you're fulfilling the role you're hired for or you aren't
I don't owe my employers anything more than they pay me for. I don't owe colleagues any more than that either. And I don't expect anymore from them.

That's fair, but as long as they do their job well. Usually clock watchers do the bare minimum so if there are two options and one option might take more effort but result in a better outcome they'll take the easy, less effective option. Think about when you have a mechanic or a builder, I know what kind of person I want.