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To want to keep trying with the new kittens

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2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:10

We took home 3x 7 month old kittens a month ago from a rescue. We previously had an mature adult cat. We didn't do enough research and totally underestimated the impact of 3x kittens.

I keep having mental wobbles and thinking, "I can't do this." Each time I fall into a bit of depression but eventually come out of it, find a solution to whatever the new challenge is and tell myself, "nope, cats are a commitment".

My husband is doing and saying the same out loud. We're both prone to depression, but his is medicated. However, over the weekend, my husband broke down to his mum about finding it all really hard and not being able to cope. He then admitted to me that he now dreads coming home after work.

The things we're finding hard are:

  1. One of the kittens has also had illness during this time, which required trips to a vet far away, which has been an added stress. He's now on the mend.

  2. The kittens have destroyed a lot of parts of the house. Not from boredom scratching (they have so many toys including puzzle ones, scratching posts, I try to do interactive play with them when I can). The damage occurs just from them playing together. It's sweet to watch, they're bonded littermates, but through simply playing chase and pounce with each other, they've destroyed furniture and curtains. I started to price up buying replacements for the damaged stuff over the weekend, got beyond £1K, then stopped and just cried.

To minimise the destruction we have removed all curtains, rugs, an armchair (replaced it with a massive cat tree), and removed all ornaments.

Yesterday evening, my husband sat down next to me in the living room and said, "the room is cold and echoe-y. I don't like the lack of privacy. I'm going to my office." Five minutes later, he then left the office as it's so overcrowded with our ornaments (it's the only cat free room we can reasonably have, as our kids forget to shut the other doors). He says our house doesn't feel like our house anymore, it feels like a cattery with people inserted into it.

I asked an online cat forum and they recommended Jackson Galaxy. I watched his videos this morning and he said each cat just need 30-45 minutes strenuous play a day. Individual play needed as some cats dominate the play and prevent others getting attention. So for three cats that's 2 hours and 15 minutes play a day. I've managed 15 minutes and then ten minutes play with all three cats so far today, not done separate play yet. They mostly wanted to play chase and pounce with each other.

  1. The rest of my life has gone out of the window. I was told at the beginning of the year that I needed to lose weight as my heart health is bad (my dad died young of heart disease so it's a big worry for me). I started a strict diet and exercise routine and lost some weight. This all stopped with the cats, the weight is back on and I'm now stress eating again, although trying not to.

  2. Our kids (7 and 9), who are both diagnosed ND or likely ND, recently told me that I never pay attention to the anymore. I've tried to encourage them to join with me in playing with the cats, which occasionally they do and to be fair my 7 year old helped me build a new cat tree for them over the weekend, but mostly they don't want to and ask "can't we do something else?" They're also overwhelmed by the smell and mess, and chose to play in rooms away from the kitchen-diner, where the cats are based. I asked on a parenting ND children forum, and most people said pets helped their ND kids.

  3. The house cleaning has gone out of the window, which is another stresser for my husband. He likes a clean, immaculate house, which I never fully achieved, but I used to get close to. Now, there's food, litter and cat toys in lots of places. He's also likely ND and finds it overwhelming. My husband works FT, I work PT (3-6 hours a week, depending on need), so housework falls on me. He is picking up more household chores without me asking, but I can see it's adding to his stress levels.

  4. I made some pin money selling secondhand baby clothes, which had the bonus of decluttering the house and helping my husband's anxiety levels. That has also gone by the wayside.

  5. I keep forgetting to do stuff. I forgot to get my kid's uniform washed in time for today. I forgot we'd run out of food so couldn't do my son's packed lunch. I forgot the stuff my daughter needed for Brownies. My brain can't seem to remember the previous emotional load.

I can't do it all and at the moment, the cats take up most of my time. I'm suspected to have ADHD alongside depression, so it's an effort for me to focus on a task. Maybe if I could be more productive, then it would be easier. But it's beginning to feel like there isn't enough hours in the day.

So, at the moment I'm saying, lets keep going with the kittens, they'll grow out of it in a year or so, we can do this. But the rest of my family aren't feeling it and are either depressed (my husband) or highly strung (my kids - who pick up on their parents not being ok mentally by becoming more disruptive, fighting more, shouting and screaming more - so I'm trying to manage their behaviours on top of everything else).

My MIL says "get rid of the cats, your and your family's mental health is more important".

Have I made the wrong choice?

OP posts:
2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:44

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:44

That's helpful to know, thank you. Yes, all vaccinated, sprayed/neutered and chips since six months old. The rescue said to wait 6-7 months until they were used to the house. That's given me hope that going outside helped you'd kitten. I wish I could harness their energy. I could power my house and others!

Sorry 6-8 weeks not months!

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 24/03/2025 14:45

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:34

Why would the rescue consider us unsuitable? We'd had a previous cat. I am engaging with them, aiming for over an hour a day. My kids are occasionally but feel overwhelmed.

You admitted yourself that you didn't have experience of this and didn't do enough research.

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:47

ilovesooty · 24/03/2025 14:45

You admitted yourself that you didn't have experience of this and didn't do enough research.

Yes, I know that now, having starting to Google challenges. But the rescue interviewed us and said we were ideal adopters, especially previously having had a cat and me being home most of the week. It was your comment about why you thought the rescue should have realised we were unsuitable that confused me.

OP posts:
2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think my question, put more succinctly, is should I be putting the cats before my kids and husband, which I think is how they're feeling?

Put that way, I feel like I've made the wrong choice. But I also don't want to give up on the cats.

OP posts:
Matsukaze · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think rescues can sometimes be a bit over cautious with the advice for letting cats out. They advised me to wait to age 6 months but it was just unfeasible so I did let him out before this (he had been neutered before I got him from rescue at 10 weeks). I supervised him closely for the first couple of weeks but then when he was going over the fence that was that! All cats are different and all circumstances are different too of course, I live on a quiet cul de sac and my garden overlooks some woodland, he was desperate to go out.

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:51

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:32

I should have added. Our adult cat has passed away. We have three kittens as the rescue wanted them to stay together as bonded littermates.

I took on two sisters. My god it was like having twin babies!
Up all night like the stairs were a racetrack, cleaning up shit and piss that had missed the litter. Not letting them out until 6 months until they'd been spayed.

I was the same when we got another kitten some years later. My word I love him.

I wouldn't have been without any of them. Ever.

I assume they're not going to be housecats? If so, you are bonkers.

Tdcp · 24/03/2025 14:51

I used to Foster cats and I've owned a lot of them too. You sound very overwhelmed and the cats are taking precedent over everything and everyone else, it's understandable but please take a step back for a bit. They are 7 months old and they are absolutely full of energy. I would seriously consider starting to let them out now rather than waiting another 2 weeks. Just sniffing around outside should wear them out a bit at this age. It also sounds like they have the run of the house, which is fantastic for them but if they're that destructive you should consider allocating a room or two to them until they're trained. It's far easier the train a cat that's in a room than a whole house. It doesn't have to be a permanent solution of course but it may help you feel more on top of things.
You absolutely should be playing with the cats but there are things you can do that aren't so intensive, throwing rolled up crisp packets for example, anything that rustles, let them chase it.
You mentioned the cat smell, are they properly litter trained? If they're having accidents or purposefully going outside the box this needs to be stopped, going back to the room allocation, calmly take them back to the box every single time you can, or they may take to going outside, mine don't have litter trays as they don't use them. I do honestly think letting them out could solve a lot of these issues.

They will grow out of it but it could be a few years before they properly settle down energy wise. If you don't feel as though you can cope, even with doing the above then they're at a good age to remove as a bonded trio. I don't usually advocate to rehome pets once you have them but sometimes it's okay to admit you have made a mistake.

Good luck op!

FateReset · 24/03/2025 14:52

I'd re-home all 3 kittens. Family comes first, and it sounds like nobody is enjoying living in a house with so many cats, including yourself.

We all make mistakes, but trying to struggle on without accepting and fixing mistakes just leads to more chaos and stress for everyone.

I like cats but would not like them taking over my home. I would never put up with pets destroying my furniture, furnishings, or having to put everything into an office to keep it safe. The kitchen and lounge should feel like a clean, hygienic space for you and your loved ones to enjoy and spend time in. Why are you putting these kittens first?

It's easy to underestimate the impact of pets, especially 3 at once, but I don't think you can solve this issue by putting more time, energy, money and resources into these kittens. You have young children, a husband, health problems, a job that come first. These kittens sound like they'd suit someone with a big house, lots of time on their hands and experience with cats. Maybe a farm or a retired couple, or a single person could give them the time and attention they need.

Personally I would discuss this with your husband, then take the kittens back to where you got them from ASAP. Then you can focus on putting your home and life back together, bit by bit.

Sending you strength and wishing you well. Don't feel guilty about giving them back, sometimes pets are just incompatible with our lives and families.

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:53

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:44

Sorry 6-8 weeks not months!

Spayed at 6-8 weeks?

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 24/03/2025 14:56

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:44

That's helpful to know, thank you. Yes, all vaccinated, sprayed/neutered and chips since six months old. The rescue said to wait 6-7 months until they were used to the house. That's given me hope that going outside helped you'd kitten. I wish I could harness their energy. I could power my house and others!

6-8 weeks seems excessively long to wait - particularly as of the three, they are not all likely to be huge adventurers. I'd be starting to let them out now, good and hungry, while you're about to see their comings and goings.

Matsukaze · 24/03/2025 14:57

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:51

I took on two sisters. My god it was like having twin babies!
Up all night like the stairs were a racetrack, cleaning up shit and piss that had missed the litter. Not letting them out until 6 months until they'd been spayed.

I was the same when we got another kitten some years later. My word I love him.

I wouldn't have been without any of them. Ever.

I assume they're not going to be housecats? If so, you are bonkers.

I remember thinking that my kitten was harder work than my son was when he was a toddler 😂

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 24/03/2025 15:02

I have 3 indoor only cats. I am an experienced cat person and I personally disagree with the experts on a few things (I know this is a bit arrogant).

Cats are kind of like goldfish, they adapt their activity levels to what they are given. I have never, ever played high intensity games with any of my cats. I instead play a lot of mentally stimulating games with them.

But they do race around with their siblings and use each other for entertainment, which has the added benefit of them not seeing humans as a play partner. They never scratch or bite hands or ankles because from day one I never used myself as a play thing (people think it's cute when a kitten jumps on their ankle but set themselves up for pain when the cat is grown).

I have zero behavioural issues. Literally none.

My boys are the sweetest and most gentle cats and it is constantly commented on by vets and guests.

One of them (my youngest, a Maine Coon) had a period of time where he was grouchy at my other two (bonded moggie brothers) because he was in pain before an operation. I found the Feliway Optimum Plugins really great. I had one upstairs and one downstairs.

7/8 months is quite an active age. My moggies calmed significantly at the year mark and now have a little run around maybe for 5 mins a day (they are 4).

My Maine Coon is still very kitten like at 2 years and he gets proper zoomies lol.

Cats can absolutely understand tone and facial expressions. I am extremely calm with them at all times, but reserve a loud exclamation and cross face for needed moments. They respond to this and learn very quickly.

Cats do want to please people they care about. That's the beautiful thing. The more you work on your bond, the better behaved they will be. But they also respond negatively to very anxious or highly strung people.

My mum has a very intense energy and my cat who adores everyone runs away from her. So that is something to be conscious of.

Many scents can be toxic to cats. I use a Lampe Berger and the scentless liquid. It is amazing and removes all smells. My house doesn't smell of cats.

Ever Clean cat litter from Amazon is the best in the UK. You need at least two large litter trays. I get the 53cm sized ones and I scoop twice a day.

I highly recommend a robovac. We have a Eufy that goes off every night and it helps keep the floors clean between proper cleans.

I also recommend having a variety of scratching posts. One of my boys likes the flat ones, the other the standing ones.

You can get double sided pet tape on Amazon and put it anywhere you want to protect. They hate the feeling and learn to avoid that area in a few days.

Food DOES make a huge difference. I personally have done a lot of research and discussed it with the specialist vet who operated my youngest and he agreed. He doesn't feed his cats dry food ever. It leads to chronic dehydration because cats don't have the thirst drive needed to offset it. He believes dry food causes most of the urinary and kidney issues he sees.

He believes a high protein, high meat content, grain free, wet only diet to be the most healthy for cats.

I swapped all mine for health reasons and I saw a difference in their fur... But the BIGGEST difference was they became even more placid and settled and just generally happier in themselves.

I buy mine from Zooplus and I feed the brands Wild Freedom, Feringa and Macs. The tins are great because you can get varying sizes and it works out quite cheap when feeding multiple cats at once.

I promise that a couple of months of investing in them will bring you so many amazing rewards. They will be absolute joys! And the added bonus is I have a very clutter free house so they can go where they want lol.

LoztWorld · 24/03/2025 15:03

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think my question, put more succinctly, is should I be putting the cats before my kids and husband, which I think is how they're feeling?

Put that way, I feel like I've made the wrong choice. But I also don't want to give up on the cats.

Edited

No, you shouldn’t. If these were cats you’d had for years and they were really part of the family there would be a whole lot more to balance, but the fact they’re making all of you miserable in your own home makes this a no-brainer to me

If you keep them you will all resent them possibly for years and it won’t be a happy home for the cats or you

Give them back now and let the centre find a home where they can thrive

LoztWorld · 24/03/2025 15:08

People are giving you practical
advice on this thread l, but it’s clear to me you just want permission to rehome them. You don’t need to ask us; just do what’s right for you!

But if it helps, I would rehome them in the circumstances you’re describing too and I am a massive cat person who has never rehomed a cat, even through years of really challenging behaviour in some cases. The difference is you’re still so early in. I wouldn’t call you fully “committed” to these pets yet, but soon you will be.

As a side note i think the centre are mental to want a home for three kittens together. But that’s another issue!

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 24/03/2025 15:16

If you decide to keep the kittens, I think you may need a mindset change. You can't keep that number of cats and be very houseproud. We have four cats and yes they can be a bit destructive - but I'd never remove furniture or curtains, I've just learned to live with the chaos.
I'd kindly suggest that you need to learn to live with them rather than completely changing your lives to adapt to them.
If you and your family are just getting stressed by them, then returning them ro the rescue is not the worst outcome.

singlewhitetrashheap · 24/03/2025 15:22

DO NOT let the kittens out. Cats are NOT part of the ecosystem and actively cause damage to it, they're an invasive species. I love cats, but they are destructive to nature, and unfortunately your house in this case, but you NEED to keep them indoors.

You made this choice and you have to live with it now.

https://www.earth.com/news/free-ranging-cats-are-one-of-the-most-problematic-invasive-species/

Free-ranging cats are one of the most problematic invasive species

The experts found that free-ranging cats have consumed over 2,000 species, 347 of which are listed as threatened

https://www.earth.com/news/free-ranging-cats-are-one-of-the-most-problematic-invasive-species/

ItGhoul · 24/03/2025 15:23

So, the rescue place told you that you can let them out after 6 weeks - does that mean you've had them for less than six weeks?!

Of course it feels chaotic right now - you've only had them for five minutes! Of course there's going to be a bit of an adjustment period. Getting a new pet - certainly cats or dogs, anyway - always comes with a few teething problems and of course the kittens are going stir-crazy if they're all in the house together and not going out to burn off some energy. You can't possibly expect them to be all settled and calm after only a couple of weeks.

ItGhoul · 24/03/2025 15:28

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:53

Spayed at 6-8 weeks?

The OP says above that they were already spayed by the rescue charity at six months old. They're not tiny kittens - they're almost adult cats by the sound of it.

The 6 - 8 weeks is the period the rescue suggested the OP give them to adjust to their new location before letting them out, nothing to do with their age.

Mistysmom · 24/03/2025 15:31

@2222thatsme we need photos of these three adorable rascals! Cat tax due! 🥰

Whyherewego · 24/03/2025 15:33

2222thatsme · 24/03/2025 14:50

I think my question, put more succinctly, is should I be putting the cats before my kids and husband, which I think is how they're feeling?

Put that way, I feel like I've made the wrong choice. But I also don't want to give up on the cats.

Edited

No, you shouldn't as the whole family needs to be on board for the 3 dcats being in this family

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 24/03/2025 15:47

singlewhitetrashheap · 24/03/2025 15:22

DO NOT let the kittens out. Cats are NOT part of the ecosystem and actively cause damage to it, they're an invasive species. I love cats, but they are destructive to nature, and unfortunately your house in this case, but you NEED to keep them indoors.

You made this choice and you have to live with it now.

https://www.earth.com/news/free-ranging-cats-are-one-of-the-most-problematic-invasive-species/

This really isn't the thread to tell the OP not to let cats out.
There are differences in opinion about whether cats should be allowed to roam or not. Both positions are based on personal beliefs, but in the UK cats are allowed to roam. If that would help the OP's situation then she doesn't need to be told not to do it.

stayathomer · 24/03/2025 16:03

Op it gets much easier as they get older, our cat was a crazy kitten but now at only 4 is much more sedentary. I would say personally I think most people (us included) shouldn’t have animals, I think there’s people who make them their everything, they incorporate the animal into their day, but not as a ‘I need to make time’. To be honest I’d consider rehoming , it just sounds like there’s a lot of things you all need to make time for x

Mumofoneandone · 24/03/2025 16:04

Kittens can be lively.......the time scale the rescue centre have suggested for keeping the cats in seems excessive.
Have always had kittens and never kept them in that long - maybe a few weeks, but totally unrealistic for 6-8 weeks! Maybe get a second opinion.
Once they can run around outside, it will make a massive difference to your relationship with them.

Octavia64 · 24/03/2025 16:12

I have three cars which I got as kittens (all together).

They are quite intense.

if your kittens are chipped and vaccinated and spayed I would consider giving th some supervised outside time.

it will significantly reduce the destructive behaviour.

that’s if you want to keep them.

ThinWomansBrain · 24/03/2025 16:30

JanglingJack · 24/03/2025 14:53

Spayed at 6-8 weeks?

The OP states they were 7 months when adopted - if it was a reputable rescue organisation presumably they were spayed before the adoption.
This appears to be 6-8 weeks being in their new home before letting them outside.

As the plan is for them to be outside cats, I'd let them go out in the garden for short periods now - but not full autonomy with a cat flap yet.