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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

333 replies

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

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IlooklikeNigella · 24/03/2025 14:23

OP you are DNBU. If it makes you feel any better my dad behaved like this every single time we took him anywhere. You know when you start earning and you really get a kick out of being able to treat your parents? He soured it every single time moaning & complaining and often then grumpily grabbing the bill and a big fight would ensue.

I don't know how old you all are but I can tell you that as the years then decades advanced, he got worse! Your post brought quite a few (now he's gone I can laugh at them fondly) memories of how he used to practically tantrum in restaurants. One time he declared he wasn't paying their extortionate prices (WE were paying) and he bought a kitkat in the shop next door and sat glaring at the staff as if willing them to cause a scene.

I will say he never changed and when I finally realised that he was free to be an arsehole and I was free to only see him when I felt like it that I got some peace.

Your mum has lived her life dealing with his moods so she is targetting you to calm down and restore peace as you're more likely to acquiesce (I've no idea if I've used that term correctly but hopefully I've made my point).

Personally I would either not apologise and pretend it didn't happen or I would apologise FOR MY PART ONLY and try to explain that you were upset because you had wanted to do something nice and it was being ruined. But if you don't want to do either that's totally your right.

Katemax82 · 24/03/2025 14:26

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 24/03/2025 12:31

I would be as annoyed as he was tbh! In fact I probably would have refused to eat there. If they run until a certain time then all the dishes should be available until that time!

Totally agree! 3pm sittings deserve the same choice as a 1pm one..you pay the same amount right?

BunnyLake · 24/03/2025 14:26

Moveoverdarlin · 24/03/2025 14:01

I agree with him. It was shit and he just couldn’t hide it.

Yes but it’s not good manners if it’s at the invite of someone else. At most a, well that’s disappointing they've run out of a full buffet, what do you want to do? And then sucked it up. Inside I would have been very frustrated (I like a good buffet and a good whinge) but I’ve learned it’s best to go with the flow of the company you’re in.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 24/03/2025 14:36

Ok. The first thing I thought as I started to read was: 'Who turns up to a buffet at 3 knowing it finishes at 4? Madness! There will only be the dregs left.'

Anway, you know that now, lesson learnt. It was your treat, so however disappointed and annoyed your dad was, it was really ungracious to keep banging on about it in front of you. It wasn't his money that was wasted, it was yours. He still ate, however much of a damp squib it was.

You need to tell him, when you are calmer and the dust has settled, why he upset you. Don't say 'dad you always bang on and labour a point and it gets boring to listen to.' Just stick to the facts about this incident and don't mention anything else.

Say 'I know the lack of food on offer was disappointing. We probably should not have turned up so late. However, I was treating you to lunch and it was bad manners to keep moaning about it in front of me. It made me feel like I was the one letting you down and I think you owe me an apology. If you'll say sorry for being a bit ungracious and spoilt then I'll say sorry for snapping at you, and we can just forget about it. Yes?'

YesYesAllGood · 24/03/2025 14:36

Riapia · 24/03/2025 13:23

Not the response you expected OP.

Because half of Mumsnet completely failed to read her OP properly.

Nanny0gg · 24/03/2025 14:42

Gemmawemma9 · 24/03/2025 13:05

Maybe he felt like as the “host” you should have suggested eating elsewhere? Instead of paying full price for a crap buffet.

He wasn't the host

The OP said very clearly it was her idea and her treat

Nanny0gg · 24/03/2025 14:43

thankyounextplease · 24/03/2025 13:49

Team Dad. I would have joined in with the moaning.

A buffet you expect to have the basics right to the end, it's not like it's cooked to each individual order and you'd asked for something specialist. It takes a few minutes to stick some poppadoms on and seconds to put more chutney out.

Edited

Then that would be the last time I treated you to a meal

Ilikeadrink14 · 24/03/2025 14:44

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 24/03/2025 12:31

I would be as annoyed as he was tbh! In fact I probably would have refused to eat there. If they run until a certain time then all the dishes should be available until that time!

I totally agree with your Dad’s anger, but not his reaction, which clearly spoiled it for everyone else. However, maybe this was expected to be a real treat for him assuming he doesn’t go out for meals that often and he felt really disappointed.
The restaurant is clearly at fault for not having a full menu and should be called out in their bad management. I would never go there again if it were me.
I feel sorry for your dad. Is there another restaurant you could take him to, so he could have an enjoyable meal? It seems a shame that he as so disappointed. If my favourite dish’s weren’t available, I’d be very annoyed and disappointed too.

BunnyLake · 24/03/2025 14:49

Nanny0gg · 24/03/2025 14:42

He wasn't the host

The OP said very clearly it was her idea and her treat

I think that’s what that pp means; as OP was the host she should (could) have suggested somewhere else. (Which is what I would have done but 3pm on a Sunday is a bad time to find somewhere to eat)

ShriekingTrespasser · 24/03/2025 14:51

I think you should’ve directed him to the waiters to moan at them continuously until they brought you some more food or gave you a discount.

AngelicKaty · 24/03/2025 14:53

This reminds of a another thread where an OP took a bottle of wine to her parents for the weekend, which she didn't like but thought her parents might, and her "funny" dad went on ad nauseum about it the whole weekend totally ruining her visit!
@IGetWeak I'm with you OP. Your DF's behaviour was childish and ungrateful. He may not have had "all the trimmings" with his curry but he wasn't paying - and presumably he had enough food to not go home starving?
If I were you I wouldn't miss an opportunity to say (repeatedly) "Well, I'd better not attempt to treat you because if it doesn't go well, through no fault of mine, I'll never hear the end of it!" 😉

SwanOfThoseThings · 24/03/2025 14:55

Your dad is an attention-seeker, simple as that.

longernights · 24/03/2025 14:56

I disagree with other posters about the timing. For a buffet advertised from 12 to 4, I would expect it to be winding down by 3pm onwards. They meant that 4 is the closing time, not you can arrive at 3.55 and fill your plate. They will need to close and get the restaurant refreshed and ready for evening meals starting at 5.

BoredZelda · 24/03/2025 14:57

AlleyRose · 24/03/2025 13:53

@BoredZelda
Not really the OP’s fault that it’s shit and since she’s the one paying, it’s seriously rude to complain all the way through the meal.

It’s seriously rude to expect your guests to just smile politely when the thing you organised is shit and you are doing nothing about it.

longernights · 24/03/2025 14:58

Ok. The first thing I thought as I started to read was: 'Who turns up to a buffet at 3 knowing it finishes at 4? Madness! There will only be the dregs left.

Absolutely this!

BobbyBiscuits · 24/03/2025 14:59

I wouldn't have sat down and started eating. I'd survey the buffet and then as a group I'd imagine we'd agree to just go elsewhere. It's true there's no point in Indian food without sides, chutneys, popadoms and bread. And a buffet is all about having a big selection.
So to be honest I'm on his side in this particular case.

Coconutter24 · 24/03/2025 15:01

Daisydoesnt · 24/03/2025 13:07

But he wasn’t the host - the OP was?! So it wasn’t his place to keep bitching about it.

The poster didn’t say he was the host

PointsSouth · 24/03/2025 15:03

All these 'you should've gone earlier, who turns up at three, why did you even sit down at all' responses are completely irrelevant to the AIBU question that was asked. She's not asking how the situation might have been avoided. She knows that.

Yeah, your dad should have expressed his disgruntlement,which you agreed was justifiable, and then he should have shut up about it.

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:04

SchoolDilemma17 · 24/03/2025 13:30

You took them to a shit place, weren’t even going to leave or complain (I agree with your dad btw and if you are paying/inviting you should have sorted it out or complained) and then you shouted at your dad. YABU

Oh dear. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me, but I don’t think I’m expecting too much to think people should read the basics.

I did not take them to “a shit place”. On the contrary, it was (as specified in my first post) a place we all like. The food and service is normally always very good. There was no reason to think the buffet would be any different. Even when it proved disappointing, it’s not like we were being made to eat out of the bin - there was just a bit less choice than hoped.

Even if I had taken them to “a shit place”, unless I’d somehow known in advance it would be shit (in which case - spoiler alert - I wouldn’t have gone) that wouldn’t have been MY fault, would it?

And if you don’t want to be shouted at, don’t spend an hour goading someone into it.

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IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:06

BobbyBiscuits · 24/03/2025 14:59

I wouldn't have sat down and started eating. I'd survey the buffet and then as a group I'd imagine we'd agree to just go elsewhere. It's true there's no point in Indian food without sides, chutneys, popadoms and bread. And a buffet is all about having a big selection.
So to be honest I'm on his side in this particular case.

I honestly don’t believe people going to a restaurant they know they like “survey the buffet as a group” before agreeing to sit down. And as I’ve pointed out, I’m not psychic - how was I supposed to know it wasn’t going to be replenished?

OP posts:
IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:07

BoredZelda · 24/03/2025 14:57

It’s seriously rude to expect your guests to just smile politely when the thing you organised is shit and you are doing nothing about it.

What was I going to do about it? Cast a magic poppadom spell?

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HenDoNot · 24/03/2025 15:08

What kind of shit Indian restaurant runs out of mango chutney?

If Sainsbury’s was close enough that you threatened your dad with going to the shop and buying him a jar to eat with his meal, the restaurant has no excuse for running out and should have sent one of their staff to get some.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 24/03/2025 15:09

If a date behaved like that when the OP was trying to treat them to a meal in a resturant she already knew they liked... We'd all be saying dump him.

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:10

I feel sorry for your dad. Is there another restaurant you could take him to, so he could have an enjoyable meal? It seems a shame that he as so disappointed. If my favourite dish’s weren’t available, I’d be very annoyed and disappointed too.

Would you reward a child who stamped their feet and cried because they didn’t like their dinner?

At least a child knows no better.

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Ilikeadrink14 · 24/03/2025 15:10

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:04

Oh dear. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me, but I don’t think I’m expecting too much to think people should read the basics.

I did not take them to “a shit place”. On the contrary, it was (as specified in my first post) a place we all like. The food and service is normally always very good. There was no reason to think the buffet would be any different. Even when it proved disappointing, it’s not like we were being made to eat out of the bin - there was just a bit less choice than hoped.

Even if I had taken them to “a shit place”, unless I’d somehow known in advance it would be shit (in which case - spoiler alert - I wouldn’t have gone) that wouldn’t have been MY fault, would it?

And if you don’t want to be shouted at, don’t spend an hour goading someone into it.

My late father was just like yours. Nothing was right or good enough. It wears you out.
This wasn’t your fault and I think a lot of people are not bothering to read the post properly.
i won’t add to all the other stuff people have said, except to say that I hope you eventually manage a family meal somewhere/sometime that you can all enjoy. Even if it means gagging your dad!!