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To not want to go to uncle's fancy dinner anymore

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gollyimholly · 21/03/2025 05:33

It was recently my DD's 2nd birthday. The plan was that DD's favourite people come for dinner and playtime with DD (grandparents plus mine and DH's siblings - 11 people in total). Unexpectedly my uncle texted (at about 4.30pm) asking if he could come over - he wasn't aware I was having a family dinner but I was more than happy to have him over as he lives a 100 miles away and so it isn't often he is down. He then said he had some colleagues with him and would there be enough food or should he tell them to eat elsewhere. I was astounded - explained it was literally DD's birthday, I had cooked a nice meal for the family and it would be best if his colleagues ate elsewhere. He then replied they were 10 minutes away (about 5.45pm) and that his colleagues were small eaters. I replied I wouldn't have enough for his 3 colleagues but if he just came on his own that would be fine. I was furious.

I told DH I wasn't coming out of the kitchen and that he was to only serve them juice and biscuits and my uncle could sort out their food. My house is organised so that I have a through lounge where the living room and dining area is one massive room. I felt like it would be so awkward if the colleagues were sat in the living area and my family were sat in the dining area having dinner. Anyway they arrived around 6pm, uncle came into the kitchen to see me and apologise and say he didn't know how to get rid of them. DH panic ordered two pizzas. I had made a roast dinner for my family. Soon after mine and DH's families arrived. My roast dinner was ready, DH took all the food to the dining area. I then went into the room to greet my family and ILs but saw that uncle and his colleagues were already sat at the dining table. I wanted to burst out crying. The colleagues were all very appreciative that I was doing so much and how kind I was. I have no idea what my uncle said to them but it was fairly obvious it was a birthday party (balloons and decorations everywhere) and that it wasn't a dinner for them. I left the room and stayed in the kitchen until uncle and colleagues left.

Anyway fast forward the evening, they ate dinner, not enough space for the intended guests to eat at the table, not enough starters for the intended guests, uncle and his colleague stayed until about 8.45pm which meant our cake cutting etc was delayed as I didn't want them present for something that is supposed to be a special family moment.

Over Christmas time last year, my uncle invited us to a charity event (£70 per ticket) in his constituency about 100 miles away (he is in politics) to which we (myself, DH and DD) said we would come. The event is next month. It will cost us about £600 for a one night stay factoring in travel costs, hotel room, ticket cost and costumes (themed black tie event). We haven't paid for our tickets yet but my uncle has booked a hotel room for us at the venue (for which we will also pay for after the stay as is normal with hotel stays). He might be out of pocket with the hotel if we decline the invite.

AIBU to make an excuse and say we won't come?

Today he messaged me to say the food was delicious. But no apology or anything. I haven't replied. He literally gatecrashed DD's 2nd birthday party with 3 strangers, who came uninvited, ate our food and then there wasn't enough for others. And then stayed for ages and wouldn't leave (on a weeknight too!). At one point after dinner my uncle came in to make them tea!! I just wanted to literally tell him to fuck off now because we would like to cut DD's cake and not have Tom, Dick and Harry loitering about.

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Pippatpip · 21/03/2025 05:48

Would you want to take a two year old to a black tie/fancy dinner? Sounds like hell for her and you in managing someone who is in a high chair. That aside, your uncle is awful.

GruntingMcGrunt · 21/03/2025 05:50

I can’t believe he did that- that’s truly appalling. You are right to be furious of course he could have told them it was your daughter’s birthday celebration! He could have easily have got rid of them or told you he would see you another time. Any normal person arriving to that scene would have stayed for a cup of tea then seen you were in the middle of a child’s birthday party and left quickly to go to nearest pizza express. What a tool.

verycloakanddaggers · 21/03/2025 05:52

It's ok for you to explain you feel he imposed upon you, and that you felt unable to cause a scene at the time due to strangers being there.

It's also completely fine to say on reflection you don't want to go to the dinner.

Zanatdy · 21/03/2025 05:53

What an idiot he is. He should have said he will make other plans when you said no to the colleagues coming. Who even does that? Incredibly rude. I am sure he can probably cancel the hotel room if you choose not to go.

gollyimholly · 21/03/2025 05:54

Pippatpip · 21/03/2025 05:48

Would you want to take a two year old to a black tie/fancy dinner? Sounds like hell for her and you in managing someone who is in a high chair. That aside, your uncle is awful.

She is usually quite good when we are eating out and so I think she will be fine. And if not, the hotel stay is in the same place as the venue so either DH or I could take DD to the room for some playtime/bedtime etc. We are also seeing another family who have two little girls that DD enjoys playing with and so we did think it would be a nice trip.

However, in all honesty, I don't want to go because I don't want to support my uncle and this is the best and most effective thing I can think of to spite him. It sounds horrible written down but I am so angry at what he did.

I didn't include this detail because I didn't think it was relevant but my family observe Ramadan (uncle does not but he is aware that it is Ramadan) and they were also fasting and so the meal was also going to be their first meal of the day. I feel partly embarrassed that I was so angry that I didn't go into the next room until after they'd left but also at the same time wanted my uncle to feel embarrassed.

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BlackBean2023 · 21/03/2025 05:55

Pippatpip · 21/03/2025 05:48

Would you want to take a two year old to a black tie/fancy dinner? Sounds like hell for her and you in managing someone who is in a high chair. That aside, your uncle is awful.

Both of these things.

YANBU to not go to the dinner. YWBU to take a two year old.

InvisibilityCloakActivated · 21/03/2025 05:57

Why hide in the kitchen instead of speaking up? Why order them pizza instead of saying "Well, thanks for the visit, I hope you have a good night - there's a pizza place up the road if you're hungry"

MonkeyRum · 21/03/2025 05:57

Oh bloody hell OP what an inconsiderate arse your uncle is! And how on Earth the 3 strangers in tow felt comfortable enough to expect to be hosted is quite something else!!

I’d be telling him that you are firmly pissed off with the situation and no longer wish to spend more on his noxious and pretentious political lifestyle.

I hope there was enough wine left for you to have after they all left!!!

Redflagsabounded · 21/03/2025 05:58

Weird behaviour all round, to be honest.

Your uncle obviously told them that his niece was local and had invited all four of them for dinner. Weird. Don't buy the 'can't get rid of them' bollox.

The colleagues were happy to go to a randomers house not just for dinner but a family birthday meal. Weird.

You for allowing them in when they arrived instead of saying ' sorry uncle, I did tell you that you can't bring your guests tonight'. If you couldn't bring yourself to do that, you could have given them all a cup of tea then nicely hustled them out. Crying in the kitchen instead of dealing with the problem. Wanting to do some kind of tit-for-tat instead of talking to your uncle about what he did and how upset you are. Weird.

gollyimholly · 21/03/2025 06:00

InvisibilityCloakActivated · 21/03/2025 05:57

Why hide in the kitchen instead of speaking up? Why order them pizza instead of saying "Well, thanks for the visit, I hope you have a good night - there's a pizza place up the road if you're hungry"

I wish I had the confidence to have said something. I don't like confrontations but I did tell my uncle that I would have been fine if it was just him but I couldn't believe he'd brought the others and could he not explain to them we're having a special occasion. He said that he was "their ride" and so they were stuck to him. I feel like he must have explained something else to them for them to be OK about staying.

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Pippatpip · 21/03/2025 06:00

The Ramadan reason explains why you were eating late. It also explains somewhat why they just accepted the hospitality without really questioning that they had gatecrashed - just saw the generosity. I can understand why you no longer want to go to the dinner. I’d be raging if three randoms came to my house and ate like it was a hotel, particularly when it was obviously a birthday. In times to come (about forty years) you may be able to laugh about it. Could one of the uncles siblings explain to him what a clod he has been. You are owed an apology and the biggest bunch of flowers imaginable.

gollyimholly · 21/03/2025 06:02

Redflagsabounded · 21/03/2025 05:58

Weird behaviour all round, to be honest.

Your uncle obviously told them that his niece was local and had invited all four of them for dinner. Weird. Don't buy the 'can't get rid of them' bollox.

The colleagues were happy to go to a randomers house not just for dinner but a family birthday meal. Weird.

You for allowing them in when they arrived instead of saying ' sorry uncle, I did tell you that you can't bring your guests tonight'. If you couldn't bring yourself to do that, you could have given them all a cup of tea then nicely hustled them out. Crying in the kitchen instead of dealing with the problem. Wanting to do some kind of tit-for-tat instead of talking to your uncle about what he did and how upset you are. Weird.

Edited

I did tell him exactly that. The next step was to forcibly remove them 😂

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rainbowstardrops · 21/03/2025 06:02

Redflagsabounded · 21/03/2025 05:58

Weird behaviour all round, to be honest.

Your uncle obviously told them that his niece was local and had invited all four of them for dinner. Weird. Don't buy the 'can't get rid of them' bollox.

The colleagues were happy to go to a randomers house not just for dinner but a family birthday meal. Weird.

You for allowing them in when they arrived instead of saying ' sorry uncle, I did tell you that you can't bring your guests tonight'. If you couldn't bring yourself to do that, you could have given them all a cup of tea then nicely hustled them out. Crying in the kitchen instead of dealing with the problem. Wanting to do some kind of tit-for-tat instead of talking to your uncle about what he did and how upset you are. Weird.

Edited

Totally agree.
Yes, your uncle was extremely rude but why on earth did you and your DH serve them your food?! I thought you said that DH panic bought some pizzas?
As above, weird.

gollyimholly · 21/03/2025 06:05

rainbowstardrops · 21/03/2025 06:02

Totally agree.
Yes, your uncle was extremely rude but why on earth did you and your DH serve them your food?! I thought you said that DH panic bought some pizzas?
As above, weird.

They had sat themselves at the table. DH had sat them at the sofas but they had migrated to the table when DH went in with the roast dinner. It all felt beyond awkward.

Edit: there are a million more assertive ways to have dealt with this.. but in my pure fury I just didn't know what to do. I also did not want a scene on DD's birthday and wanted to keep the mood positive. And just did not know how to navigate it on the spot. DH I think generally defers to me when dealing with my side of the family so I think he felt he just had to be polite. I was a bit stunned that despite telling my uncle to to tell his colleagues to eat elsewhere that they were still there and then felt like he was just doing his own thing regardless of what I said.

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TheaBrandt1 · 21/03/2025 06:08

That’s outrageous. Think it’s unfair to blame the op in any way she was put in a very difficult position. Think even the ballsiest person would struggle throwing 4 people out, plus it would have made an unpleasant scene on a birthday. Feels sexist to me him expecting op as the woman to just accommodate his whims. I wouldn’t blame the randoms who knows what he told them

Timeforsnacks · 21/03/2025 06:12

Personally when seeing them at the dinner table I would say sorry I didn't know you were coming until a few minutes before you arrived so if you are okay to sit on the sofas we have ordered you pizza and if you want anything else feel free to order a takeaway.

I wouldn't have started giving them some of the birthday food and left the intended guests short. I think that was a mistake and noone was going to have a good meal that way.

If you are observing Ramadan you would have been trying to be generous hosts. It didn't work out, no need to cancel going to the black tie event out of spite surely?
Just text him back saying "I'm still in shock that you brought strangers to my home last minute at my daughter's birthday and you made no attempt to sort out food for them, can we talk about that please?"

Redflagsabounded · 21/03/2025 06:13

Awkward, yes, but I still don't understand why you chose a few hours of awkward, crying in the kitchen and your house invaded by unwanted people, instead of 5 minutes of awkward telling them to leave, and being happy. You wouldn't have needed to forcibly remove them if you hadn't let them in in the first place. Plainly saying 'well it was nice to meet you all but we have a family event starting now, so it's time for you to be off. Here's your coats, hope you find somewhere nice for dinner, bye'. Noone even asked them to leave?

femfemlicious · 21/03/2025 06:15

You should have politely told them to leave. You should have told them sorry there's not enough space at the table and to sit back in the lounge

Caroparo52 · 21/03/2025 06:21

How so bloody rude of your du. I feel your pain. You are right to be seething about it...
Yes cancel the event. Tell him how confused you are by his actions at the birthday party and didn't he realise he was gate crashing and it wasn't appropriate to be there..... and that therefore you will miss this year whilst your relationship and your feelings recover...

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 21/03/2025 06:22

Look you didn’t have the balls to say something at the time l - I get it.

but he has messaged you and you are due to respond.

So send response that says what you want to say…

it was a lovely surprise to hear from you, but it was totally inappropriate to bring strangers to my house. It was even more inappropriate and rude to do it during my DDs party. And even more so to expect me to feed a part of people with no notice.
it was incredibly rude to displace our family from the dining table to accommodate your work friends.
you sound it incredibly stressful and it really tarnished the day for you and your husband.
You are really hurt by his behaviour.
the pizzas cost £x and your bank details are Y.

femfemlicious · 21/03/2025 06:24

Ah i see, it's a cultural thing. It was hard to be more confrontational because it was iftar. Your uncle is one of those people who does what he wants knowing that it's hard for people to resist in the moment.

I think you should bring it up to him and tell him off seriously. If it's something that you would enjoy, I would go tobthe event. If not then definitely cancel. Why go out of your way for someone who behaves like that. Always trying to get hos way by being bull headed.

HappySheldon · 21/03/2025 06:25

What incredibly strange behaviour of your uncle. Although TBF DH has a friend who would behave in a similar way. (Highlight was him staying at our house for a week and asking me to host a cocktail party for his local friends and magnanimously adding that i was 'welcome to stay' after I had served everyone. In my own house).

I would say that you are not able to come to the fancy dinner and explain that it is inconvenient and expensive.

TheaBrandt1 · 21/03/2025 06:26

I am quite confident and in peri so losing my people pleasing hormones but would struggle actually -asking people out who were sitting round my table to leave. I have thrown someone out of our house once it’s not nice and is upsetting and embarrassing. It’s easy to type you would have done that but in reality I don’t think so.

RitaFires · 21/03/2025 06:29

I'm sorry your uncle ruined your child's party. I used to tie myself in knots trying to stay polite to rude people but it only ever caused me more stress in the long run. Nowadays I would have told uncle that his colleagues weren't welcome at a family party and let him wallow in the awkwardness he caused and not let him past the front door if he still had the audacity to show his face.

If you feel you can I would say something about his behavior and not attend his event if you don't want to.

Gremlins101 · 21/03/2025 06:31

He was really out of line, but I do think you should have spoken up more!

I'd have said to the uncle and colleagues, when they sat down at the table, "hey those seats are for the invited guests!". It could have been done in a cheerful way.

He was really really rude, 100%. But I think you let them walk all over you.

As for whether you go to the fancy dinner, you should decide based on if you want to go or not, not out of spite.

I would call him and tell him how angry you are though, that it really messed up your birthday party, and that they should have respected your request to eat elsewhere.